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Are Black Rap Artists to blame for bad behaviour?
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 Posted: Friday June 15th, 2007 10:04

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Are Black Rap Artists to blame for the bad behaviour of Black children?
 

No.

 

Because the distribution of music and the music media and press are controlled by White Supremacist Racists.

 

Even the concept of "bad behaviour" relative in a White Supremacist Racist controlled environment.



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 Posted: Friday June 15th, 2007 10:12

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Safe houses call for gang members







MPs looked at black people and the criminal justice system Gang members who want to escape a life of crime should have access to "safe houses", MPs have suggested.
The Commons home affairs committee said living at a secret address could protect them from reprisals.
It is also calling for a national strategy to cut the number of young black people involved in crime.
It blamed social exclusion, absent fathers, lack of role models and the influence of 'gangsta rap' although it said censorship was not the answer.
It said there was "evidence to support allegations of direct or indirect discrimination in policing and the youth justice system".
But it added: "The perception as well as the reality of discrimination has an impact.
"Lack of confidence in the criminal justice system may mean some young black people take the law into their own hands or carry weapons in an attempt to distribute justice and ensure their own personal safety."
'Stop and search'
Committee chairman John Denham said there was no evidence young black people committed more crime than other groups.
But they were more involved in certain types of crime, including robbery, drug and gun offences. They were also more likely to be the victims of violent crime.







There are many cases where young people who will have been involved in crime will wish to move out of it

John Denham
Home Affairs committee chairman
The committee also warned about the effect of police "stop and search" policies on black community relations.
It found that three in four young black men would soon be on the national DNA database.
It was therefore "an advantage to be a white criminal because you are less likely to be on the DNA database," said Mr Denham, who called for a government investigation into the issue.






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Download the reader hereHe said the committee did not want a strategy of "letting black people off crimes they have committed" but it did want to ensure "all communities" were treated fairly by the criminal justice, education and welfare systems.
Previous government efforts to tackle the issue of black people and crime had made no impact, said Mr Denham.
"We think there needs to be a closer attention on the way we can enable young people to escape from involvement in criminal groups and criminal activities.
"Safe houses were one of the ideas that we thought was worthy of study.
"Young people's behaviour changes and there are many cases where young people who will have been involved in crime will wish to move out of it."
'Gangsta rap'
Social exclusion was the biggest factor in young black crime, said Mr Denham, but a "lack of father involvement and...other parenting issues" also needed to be tackled.
Lacking positive male role models, many young black men look to music and films that glamorise violent lifestyles, the committee said.
But it said that censoring "gangsta rap", hip hop music and other forms of entertainment would be "undesirable and impractical".
It called for a more responsible approach from broadcasters who it said should work with young people on putting out a more positive message.
The committee also suggested that "internal exclusion" for disruptive schools pupils be developed.
"Internal exclusion" involves allowing disruptive pupils to remain in school, but separated from other pupils during lessons and breaks.
It also praised mentoring schemes, which offered young black men positive role models.
'Blair failure'
Some witnesses told the committee the media was to blame for negative portrayals of young black people.
But Opinion Leader research commissioned by the MPs suggested most people rejected racial stereotypes.
Conservative home affairs spokesman James Brokenshire said: "Despite the prime minister's promises, soaring crime rates show that Tony Blair has failed to be tough on crime.
"Evidence like this demonstrates equal failure on dealing with the causes of crime."




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The problem is the gangs of White Supremacist Racist Abusers in Trustee, Directorship, Executive and Senior Management positions in Public and Private organisations that impact on the lives of people classified as Black.

 

 



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 Posted: Friday June 15th, 2007 10:16

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There can be no "safe houses" until such time that the system of Institutional Racism which is White Supremacy is demolished.

 

Asking for a "Safe House" in this environment is like asking for a safe cage somewhere in the zoo away from the zoo keepers.



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 Posted: Saturday June 16th, 2007 10:14

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What brand of madness is this?

To say that rappers aren't to blame, it all the fault of the music industry is to say that black people are children with no morals or concept of self and our white parents have done a poor job rasing us! Yet another shamless example of people trying to pass the buck and make excuses of those that just plain low.

If a white man give a black guy a gun, and that guy decides to shoot, his neighbour, who is most to blame? We all have free will, no one can make us do that which we don't choose to do. We shouldn't look to absolve those from their responsibilites to themselves, their community and our wider community.

As for your statement ''Even the concept of "bad behaviour" relative in a White Supremacist Racist controlled environment.'' No, we all know what kind of 'bad behavour'' we are talking about with reguard to the influence of rap music, there is not positive behavour to any of it, no matter how you 'spin' it.

No tolerance and no excuses!



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 Posted: Saturday June 16th, 2007 11:31

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Whilst i can really seen RESS's point I must say I totally agree with RLB Black Artist have to shoulde some of the blame on this issue, its too easy to pass the buck onto white industry owners too easy



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 Posted: Saturday June 16th, 2007 11:34

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I wouldn't say Rap "Artists" are to blame, but I do think they make bad behaviour seem acceptable for some, they normalise it.



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 Posted: Saturday June 16th, 2007 14:02

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We would not even know of the existence of these Black music groups who are supposed to be encourageing bad behaviour if it was not for White Supremacist Racists. These musicians might still have been performing in their bedroom.

 

 

We must work to demolish the power White Supremacist Racists hold in the music and media businesses so that those groups who are talented and deserve recognition get it.

 



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