Here are video clips and pictures from the DVD "9/11 in Plane Site" that I do recommend getting if you are interested in whether 9/11 was a conspiracy by the U.S. government to go to war in the Middle East. I didn't pay for my video, I downloaded it from the Internet but I (as well as everyone I know who has seen it) think it is definitely worth seeing.
The Pentagon: Exit Strategy, how did that big plane fit in the tiny hole...
The Pentagon: Before The Collapse...
Woman screams saying that the plane that hit the World Trade Center was notan American Airlines plane. Furthermore, a FOX News report said there were no windows on the plane (Flight 175)...
Flight 175 Anomalies, with pods attached to airplines and mysterious flashes...
As a recap, how can a Boeing 757 plane that is wider (in wing span) than 100 ft. fit into a whole just 16 ft wide without leaving any wreckage on the front lawn? Here are 3 pictures before the roof of the Pentagon collapsed...
Le Moor wrote: @Kunjufu.......... So there would be an excuse to go to war and begin the New World Order process.
Hmmmm what and run up a Trillion dollar debt...does that make sense?
Kunjufu wrote: Ok can I ask a very obvious question..if this was an inside job....the BIG question is WHY and for what PURPOSE?
Support for the war against Iraq I believe. America needs weak enemies so it can maintain it's primacy as a Superpower and make quick money the easiest way it has always done.
You can get the answer for that from any episode of 24.
Apparently the naysayers would have us believe it was because oil conglomerates wanted control. Their billion $ wealth as companys and individuals is a tangible thing which affects them while a trillion $ national debt is a concept that does not really.
The are holes in the logic whichever way you look at it.
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The Illuminati were behind the 9/11 attacks. The planes were carefully controlled by remote control and there was nothing anyone could do to stop it. Also if you look at a dollar bill you see the twin towers going up in flames....they plan to enslave us all in the near future by planting microchips in our hands and surveilling us 24/7.......New World Order an' ting.....
According to some silly ass dvd my bredrin got from market lol.
Come on now..are you telling me that the American security services or worse the President sanctioned the murder of over three thousand Americans to feul their economy....Sorry but thats a big stretch... If they wanted to start a war, surely there was an easier and less distructive method to achieve this?
Other reasons could be to deal with Israels' enemies, although most of this speculation has come from members of white nationalist with an obvious agenda, some of them have islated the idea it could be about Oil
Anther reason could be is that Saddan made plans to sell Iraqis vast Oil in Euros, thus threaten the dominance of the American Dollar.
Kunjufu wrote: Come on now..are you telling me that the American security services or worse the President sanctioned the murder of over three thousand Americans to feul their economy....Sorry but thats a big stretch... If they wanted to start a war, surely there was an easier and less distructive method to achieve this?
No the ecomony is just a benefit. The real motive possibly was to begin the New World Order process. This is a complex programme but it basically means the Amercians would carry on as they always have, rule the world and kick everyones arse and it all begins with controlling the Middle-East and their Oil.
John Pilger stated the real reason being the US wanting to build Oil Pipelines through Afghanistan.
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Kunjufu wrote: Ok can I ask a very obvious question..if this was an inside job....the BIG question is WHY and for what PURPOSE?
Most likely all of the above, and probably to create national unity by taking peoples minds off the fact that he stole the election. Wouldn't be surprised if some controversial legislation was passed at the time and Bush wanted to divert attention.
Another possible question that my friend posed: "Why the twin towers and not the white house?"
Question I posed in response:"Why not the statue of liberty?"
Kunjufu wrote: Come on now..are you telling me that the American security services or worse the President sanctioned the murder of over three thousand Americans to feul their economy
....Sorry but thats a big stretch... If they wanted to start a war, surely there was an easier and less distructive method to achieve this?
The Method:
Google "Operation Northwoods". I think you might find it 'Educational'.
As someone who lives in metropolitian Washington DC, and who saw the Petagon on 9/11 & 9/12.Trust me a plane hit it and brought a portion of it down.I saw,smelled and witnessed the aftermath.
I won't even get into this silly talk that Bush & Co. engineered 911.Seems that the conspiracy theorists are racists.I guess they can't shallow the notion that some brown people in the Middle East plotted and carried out 911.
Kunjufu wrote: Ok can I ask a very obvious question..if this was an inside job....the BIG question is WHY and for what PURPOSE?
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Sorry for the late response. When I tried accessing Blacknet, I got an error about some database or too many users and I was locked out for a while.
As for the reason why and for what purpose, I have to ask if you are familiar with the book Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper. Cooper was a military intelligence officer that was killed by the U.S. government for exposing too much information. The first government attempt on his life took one of his legs, the second attempt ended his life.
Disregarding the information in his book on extraterrestrial life, the information about the U.S. government's plans have come to fruition almost like prophecy since it was published in 1991, but written a decade earlier than that. It foretold the War on Drugs, HIV/AIDS crises in Africa and for people of African descent, Middle East wars, Islamic/Christian fanaticism, War on Terrorism, Patriot Act, chipped passports or IDs, credit card debt and so forth. The plan is to turn the U.S. into an economic slave nation where it has to individually strip the freedoms of American citizens until it succeeds. Basically, 9/11 was an intrument for the Patriot Act and other measures to strip American freedoms. It sounds rather absurd and simplistic, but I guarantee if you read this book, you will look at things as if you have been lied to for so many years...and honestly, I believe we have.
--Thoth B3
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Kunjufu wrote: Hmmmm what and run up a Trillion dollar debt...does that make sense?
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You are thinking from the perspective that loyal Americans actually run America, Britain, or any other Western nation. They are run by globalists, often with a heavy and in international corporations. They have no allegiance to the U.S., but only use it to make the economic deals to control Africa, South America, Asia, and so forth, and even go to war to benefit from the chaos or even the spoils of war.
Burning Spear wrote: As someone who lives in metropolitian Washington DC, and who saw the Petagon on 9/11 & 9/12.Trust me a plane hit it and brought a portion of it down.I saw,smelled and witnessed the aftermath.
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But did you actually see a plane hit the Pentagon? Most people only saw after the roof collapsed, but not right afterward a purported plane hit. Witnesses at the scene said it looked like a "cruise missle" and people wondered how such a large plane could fit in a tiny 16 ft. hole, when a Boeing 757 is over 100 ft. in wing span, while not leaving any wreckage on the front lawn. Are you telling me an entire Boeing 757 can fit through the following hole?
Burning Spear wrote: I won't even get into this silly talk that Bush & Co. engineered 911.Seems that the conspiracy theorists are racists.I guess they can't shallow the notion that some brown people in the Middle East plotted and carried out 911.
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I don't think this has anything to do with race. I think you would be aiding those behind a conspiracy by trivializing the issue with race. The video and photographic evidence calls for answers which our government is not giving. It is quite obvious that the official story does not add up.
--Thoth B3
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Thoth B3 wrote: Kunjufu wrote: Hmmmm what and run up a Trillion dollar debt...does that make sense?
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You are thinking from the perspective that loyal Americans actually run America, Britain, or any other Western nation. They are run by globalists, often with a heavy and in international corporations. They have no allegiance to the U.S., but only use it to make the economic deals to control Africa, South America, Asia, and so forth, and even go to war to benefit from the chaos or even the spoils of war.
--Thoth B3
Good point Thoth.
The fact is America, like Britain (and many other countries) is being slowly and systematically 'asset striped'. That is no conspiracy theory, that is cold hard fact. Start looking into the 'real' economics of these two 'rich' Western countries and you will see that both are mortgaged up to the hilt with the 'Globalist' holding the 'note'. The British and the American people had their 'interests' sold out long time and it's only a matter of time before it all comes home to roosts. So ya all can sit back and skin teet talking about all this 'conspiracy' stuff, until you get to know what it really feels like to not know where your next mean is coming from ....literally!
By the way Drugs and Oil, don't forget Drugs and Oil when you are asking about the Why of 911.
Respect
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Even if 911 was genuine, the rest is no conspiracy.
When have the West not attacked, killed, looted and robbed over resources. Why should now be any different. Just because their techniques appear more sophisticated the results are still the same.
The facts are, the Taliban had to be removed from Afghanistan and it happened. They have now engaged in an illigal occupation of Iraq. I wasnt aware that anyone seriously believed America wouldnt benefit more from those actions than if they didnt happen at'll?
If 911 was genuine, then it was also a damm good excuse to do what was beneficial as well.
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