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Posted: Saturday September 24th, 2005 09:10 |
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Hi All,
This is 1Reality from Dudley, West Mids.
I wanted to ask forum members whether they believe their black elected members are actually doing anything for their community. I say this because the one black councillor we have in Dudley appears to be doing absdolutely nothing. For instance Dudley's African Caribbean community asked for support to establish a cultural or community centre and even arranged a petition with 600 signatures. The councillor did not support the petition or the community's need for resources. However the councillor supported a skateboard park based in a predominantly white area.
Is it just me or are most of our elected members turning into coconuts. Would like to hear your experiences.
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Posted: Saturday September 24th, 2005 14:44 |
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Reality, I sympathise with you. So many Black councillors are so disconnected from real black people that its only fair to be cynical about their motivation. The only way to control those people is thru the ballot box.
They are in it for their own narrow political ambitions and feck all about the interests of the people they ought to be representing.
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Posted: Saturday October 1st, 2005 03:47 |
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The answer to your question is NO.
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Posted: Monday May 8th, 2006 01:54 |
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The useless black councillor I was referring to in my first post in October 05 got voted out in 4th May 06 local elections. Seems I wasn't the only one who thought they were useless after all.
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Posted: Monday May 8th, 2006 07:18 |
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| Try here: http://www.bnvillage.co.uk/forum32/20890.html
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Posted: Monday May 8th, 2006 07:23 |
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| ... or here: http://www.ligali.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=1531&st=0
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Posted: Sunday August 13th, 2006 18:57 |
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"... In one picture he posted on the site, too explicit to publish in a family newspaper, he was wearing just a gold necklace while gripping his private parts in his hand ..."
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Posted: Thursday September 14th, 2006 19:04 |
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"... In one picture he posted on the site, too explicit to publish in a family newspaper, he was wearing just a gold necklace while gripping his private parts in his hand ..."
Black Empowerment - Operation Black Vote Style
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Posted: Wednesday September 27th, 2006 18:25 |
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Councillor Martin Seaton (Lab. East Walworth ward, Southwark).
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Posted: Friday September 29th, 2006 11:13 |
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In Holland the black female politicians are bussy with their straight hair and their white husbands than with the black community
In Surinam you become a politician to get rich
Surinam is listed as the 17th Rich country on this world but still we live in poverty
A fact is that the politicians are surrounding them selves with even bigger fools than they are already to assure that they will keep the power
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Posted: Saturday September 30th, 2006 07:47 |
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... any like this one in Holland or Suriname ...
"... In one picture he posted on the site, too explicit to publish in a family newspaper, he was wearing just a gold necklace while gripping his private parts in his hand ..."
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Posted: Sunday October 29th, 2006 18:33 |
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... meet Jeanette Arnold of the Greater London Assembly ...
... anyone got the foggiest idea what she does?
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Posted: Friday November 10th, 2006 18:34 |
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... meet Councillor Martin Seaton (Lab. East Walworth ward, Southwark) ...
... read about the case of the Late Elder Milton Hanson here ...
... now listen to Elder Hanson describe what Cllr Seaton did for him in his own words from beyond the grave ...
... Councillor Martin Seaton (Lab. East Walworth ward, Southwark) ... Working For Who?
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Posted: Friday November 10th, 2006 19:00 |
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I hope someone will now take up above's baton.
We'll see how many of us they can kill off before they continue to ignore his campaign.
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Posted: Sunday November 19th, 2006 15:58 |
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... Councillor Martin Seaton (Lab. East Walworth ward, Southwark) ... Working For Who?
Anyone know?
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Posted: Sunday November 19th, 2006 22:58 |
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What he did is very common in our community. Unity in our community is slim.
Well done MGL for exposing the Man. Kept on with the Picture campaign.
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Posted: Monday November 20th, 2006 19:09 |
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... me neither ...
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Posted: Thursday December 28th, 2006 18:28 |
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12 Questions That Councillor Martin Seaton (Labour, East Walworth, London Borough of Southwark) Must Now Answer:
1. Have you ever received payment, whether in cash or in kind, from any of the British security services (i.e. police, special branch, Mi5, Mi6 and so on)? If so, for what and when?
2. What organisations are you currently a member of and what organisations were you a member of at the time that you became involved with with Elder Milton Hanson's court case against Kings College Hospital NHS Trust?
3. Who recruited you to become involved with Elder Milton Hanson's court case against Kings College Hospital NHS Trust, when, and why?
4. While you were involved in Elder Milton Hanson's court case against Kings College Hospital NHS Trust, who precisely were you representing?
5. While you were involved in Elder Milton Hanson's court case against Kings College Hospital NHS Trust, with whom apart from Elder Hanson did you hold meetings to discuss the case, at whose request, and for what purpose?
6. While you were involved in Elder Milton Hanson's court case against Kings College Hospital NHS Trust, what documentation did you obtain from Elder Hanson and to whom did you show it?
7. What was done with the originals of the documents that you obtained from Elder Milton Hanson?
8. Were copies of the documents that you obtained from Elder Hanson given to anyone else by you, and if so, to whom, and for what purpose?
9. How many meetings did you have with Michael Parker of Kings College Hospital NHS Trust regarding Elder Milton Hanson's case, and when, and what was discussed at each of those questions?
10. Why did you threaten to report Elder Milton Hanson to the Metropolitan Police when he contacted you regarding the return of his papers?
11. How many times did you meet Elder Milton Hanson to offer him money in connection with his case against Kings College Hospital NHS Trust, and where did the money that you offered him come from?
12. When you appeared on Powerjam community radio station in April 2005 at your own request, why did you refuse to answer the questions on this issue that were put to you by the presenter, the various callers and indeed by Elder Milton Hanson himself?
... and that's just for starters ...
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Posted: Thursday December 28th, 2006 23:23 |
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MGL Excellent work must say. These type of vermin need to be exposed and their names kept in the public eye.Black people unlike others memory too short....
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Posted: Friday December 29th, 2006 15:42 |
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 OMG, I couldn't believe what I was hearing re: Brother Martin and Elder Milton
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Posted: Saturday December 30th, 2006 11:07 |
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lilthuggy wrote Friday December 29th, 2006 16:42 : OMG, I couldn't believe what I was hearing re: Brother Martin and Elder Milton
**************************************** You had better believe it ...
... listen again here (carefully)
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Posted: Saturday December 30th, 2006 14:58 |
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These questions could have some relevence but I doubt if we will get much value from them:
2. What organisations are you currently a member of and what organisations were you a member of at the time that you became involved with with Elder Milton Hanson's court case against Kings College Hospital NHS Trust?
3. Who recruited you to become involved with Elder Milton Hanson's court case against Kings College Hospital NHS Trust, when, and why?
4. While you were involved in Elder Milton Hanson's court case against Kings College Hospital NHS Trust, who precisely were you representing?
5. While you were involved in Elder Milton Hanson's court case against Kings College Hospital NHS Trust, with whom apart from Elder Hanson did you hold meetings to discuss the case, at whose request, and for what purpose?
Listen to the interview twice. Interviewer was terrible like swinging around a sledgehammer when what you need is sharp knife...This has absolutely nothing to do with the police or security services...Small fry issues and no revelence to the things they are interested in.
This is about bureacratic politics. I will bet my life, Seaton knows a member of the ruling body in question eg Health Trust either personally or indirectly via his political pary and its hierarchy. Those old white local politicians especially those who chair major service committees will know everybody since they were pups and coming up the bureaucratic system. That is why I doubt asking about the formal organisations he is a member would provide much because that would be damn stupid if he had official links with the people in question. Most likely to be unofficial or informal. The fact he is a local Labour Party member means he has access to people who will know everybody.
But I have no doubts Hanson was sold out because I have never heard of a Councillor giving somone money to pay for legal advice. What budget would that come from? They have no budgets for that type of stuff. Councillors do not give you money out of their pocket and anybody knowledable about local politics knows that as they are too busy rippling off the public with their mickey mouse out of hours expenses, and travelling and attendance allowances to take a cent out of their pockets.
But while I think Hanson made some bad mistakes, which is unfortunate and par for the cause when that is not his job to be a tactian of these things but a senior mental health nurse, but what he said is consistent with what we know about how the enemy works in this situation. It's all about getting hold of the evidence before hand and basically nuetralising it.
You see the law is a b**ch, it does not care how an employer comes into possession of the information, so there is f**k all than can be done about it. Been burnt twice when my mail was indirectly intercepted by another organisation and sent it back to my enemy personally.
The issue in fact and law is that the opposition has the info, not how they got it. Had a Nigerian academic who I trusted like my own woman and not even some of our own Caribbean staff could I trust them, and she went into my secret hidden files which only she knew and gave it to the enenmy after they enrolled another Nigerian to play the tribal card and pressure her. She gave them everything.
The smartest rat I have ever dealt with and what hurt me I taught the f**ker about strategic contingency planning Lee Jasper who pulled a blinder on me. We were involved in a very very heavy police case and it was brought to my attention that they needed someone with a track record of dealinig with complex sh*t. Did everything to the technical text book including having about three contingency plans lined up. Any sh*t we just go to plan B etc.
Spoke to Jasper and told him I wanted the Home Secretary to see a glimpse of what we had to make them know we are not f**king about...When Jasper saw it you could see his eyes light up like boy and big glory for him. Cool. Gave him a precise deadline and time of day if we did not hear from him because he was busy I was not going to wait and one second past that time we go into action on plan B. No probs.
We had no choice but to send Jasper the whole file. He said he would get back to us by a certain time, but well within the final deadline. A second before that deadline and I was just looking for my phonebook to contact our other lawyer and contacts to go ahead with plan B. Got the call from Jasper..Fred man busy with this Stephen Lawrence sh*t blah blah blah..I understood.
Told me boy, Straw and them guys well frightened about what they read of the case and are going to move on what we want, but given the Stephen Lawrence thing you can appreciate they are taking heat and under pressure for time. True I can see that.
Set another deadline for the next phase, exactly the same thing happneed, but this time I phoned Jasper about six times before and he only got back to me once..Oh Fred busy and can't talk right now but I on top of things. When the deadline came same thing phone call one second before its passed.
It dawned on my team in one second..Sombody is taking us for a f**king arse. We were being played, because our machine and soliders are just basically sitting there, waitng on Jasper, while he is giving the enemy our evidence and enough time to compromise it. We went ahead with plan B and bet any money the slimey f**ker would phone us either in the last minute or the day before to cover his slimey steps. What did he do? Phone in the last minute, but by that time we had the f**ker clean...
By the way what happened. The information we had given Jasper had been leaked to the specific police force in question and their lawyers summoned all our white poilce officer witnesses and blacks who were going to come forward and put the fearl of god into them. If it wasn't for a couple of bone fide white officers who I worked with, and two brothers from my part of the Caribbean with strong island loyalties, who told us what went off we would have never known.
That is why back in the day when the movement was stronger and we handed over documents of a sensitive nature and gave a strict undertaking. If they were one second late..Whole security unit would be dispatched with one instruction and one alone. Come back with those documents by any means necessary. I have been sent to Manchester and all over with big team of solidiers to bring by financial account details and other sensitive stuff..
If man and man had gone to see Seaton a minute after a deadline was missed, bet you he would have handed over the originals of those papers. Why because poilce cannot protect those boys and they know it...
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Posted: Sunday December 31st, 2006 08:47 |
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An ancestor speaks from beyond the grave ...
"I believe that you're a Trojan Horse in the Black community"
Unfortunately "man and man" could not have gone to see Councillor Martin Seaton because the facts appear only to have come to light a year after the death of Elder Milton Hanson.
In the unlikely event that members of the Blacknet Village are interested in getting to the truth of this matter, they might find this interesting.
It might also be sensible to listen to this again.
Therefore, so that anyone actually interested in the truth is not totally confused:
1. Martin Seaton was not a local councillor at the time that he took possession of documents relating to Milton Hanson's case.
2. The interview that has now come to light (which you can all listen for yourselves) was recorded and broadcast in April 2005.
3. At that time, members of the management of Galaxy Radio claimed to be campaigning for Milton Hanson. Seaton was a regular caller to Galaxy Radio and is known to their management. It is therefore inconceivable that Galaxy Radio did not know of the alleagtions concerning Seaton that had been broadcast on another London community station. These alleagtions have never been referred to by any of Galaxy Radio's presenters, despite their professed concern for Milton Hanson.
4. In January 2005 (by which time it would appear that Seaton may have already taken possession of Milton Hanson's documents), Lee Jasper (see previous post) appeared as a guest on Galaxy Radio. He was accompanied in the studio by ... Martin Seaton.
5. Martin Seaton has appeared on Galaxy Radio on numerous occasions since the death of Milton Hanson. The presenters have never asked him to explain his role in the Milton Hanson affair.
6. Martin Seaton was elected as a Labour councillor to Southwark Council in May 2006, having appeared on Galaxy Radio on a number of occasions in the run-up to those elections to publicise his candidacy - the same Galaxy Radio who claimed to be campaigniing on behalf of the memory of Milton Hanson.
7. All 12 questions asked earlier in this thread remain valid ... and to date, unanswered.
Those are the facts.
... Councillor Martin Seaton (Lab. East Walworth ward, Southwark) ... Working For Who?
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Posted: Sunday December 31st, 2006 12:21 |
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MGL in what capacity did he give Seaton the document. I thought it was in his capacity as a Councillor if not what capacity? Why did he give him the money?.
'At that time, members of the management of Galaxy Radio claimed to be campaigning for Milton Hanson. Seaton was a regular caller to Galaxy Radio and is known to their management. It is therefore inconceivable that Galaxy Radio did not know of the alleagtions concerning Seaton that had been broadcast on another London community station. These alleagtions have never been referred to by any of Galaxy Radio's presenters, despite their professed concern for Milton Hanson'
MGL what is the above para about in your mind. You clearly have some suspicions, please say or give some indication what they are. I rarely have the time to follow the radio as much as I would like plus so many shows these days not sure what to follow and very often times conflict with my work. So give me a clue to what you think here so man can test it and make sense of it.
This has nothing to do with police trust me this is fish and chips rubbish to them. A police force intelligence officer would throw this in a bin and not even pass it up to the local Speacial Branch collator..I think if we keep on thinking of the big conspiracy we actually fail to understand the real ones at work at a more local and often more serious level.
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Posted: Sunday December 31st, 2006 13:12 |
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MGF said 'In the unlikely event that members of the Blacknet Village are interested in getting to the truth of this matter, they might find this interesting.
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Just a point on common sense. If you think people here would not be interested why post this information? Practically nobody here has the resources to investigate this or likely the inclination as it does not affect them directly or is not their primary responsibility. Investigations costs money, time and people....
So tell us what you know or your view as you probably know more than most...
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Posted: Sunday December 31st, 2006 17:45 |
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Yes, please do tell us MGL, after hearing that interview, and now reading the facts about Galaxy Radio, I'm baffled?
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