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Moderators, why are these trolls still on this site?
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 Posted: Tuesday May 24th, 2005 21:08

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I'm talking about the new breed of white racists like Johnf**khead and Ellen (I hate myself) who have infiltrated into this site. 

 

BAN THEM!!!

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 Posted: Tuesday May 24th, 2005 21:16

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Its interesting I read that John Taylor post and I would bet my pinky finger that is was written by a Black person.........quite worrying really.confused3



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I don't think so jettblack, that post reeked of white racism.  Self-hating black people usually attack the opposite gender of their race, not both.



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 Posted: Tuesday May 24th, 2005 21:25

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There lies the cunning you see Aryek......I still feel so in my bones.



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 Posted: Tuesday May 24th, 2005 21:32

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like a child who throws a tantrum they only pesist when they know that that behaviour gets attention.  Solution?  ignor the f**kers, they will get bored and go play in some other traffic.  their comments are deliberatly inflammotory to get a response, and what do some folk do?  give them what they want!!!!  why don't the mods just delete these comments as they come up?  i have seen enough closed or in the dustbin, so the mods are obviously aware of most of them.  except for providing me with some light relief, they really have no place here.



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 Posted: Tuesday May 24th, 2005 21:32

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i agree, ellen needs to be banned.



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 Posted: Tuesday May 24th, 2005 21:41

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Madame Butterfly,

I agree that the best way to get rid of them is to ignore them.  The problem, however, is that not many people on this site, myself included, can stand the ease with which these people can come onto this site and spew their crap.  When someone comes to your home and does not respect you, do you let them sit on your couch and eat your food or do you drag them by their ears and tell them to get the heck out of your home?  

I want these people out of here before more of them get the idea that they too can come onto our site and spew their venom.  If they don't like us, they can go to stormfront and other white racist sites and complain. When we have something to say about whites, we say it in our own space so why can't they keep their sh*t to themselves? 

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 Posted: Tuesday May 24th, 2005 21:47

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I wonder who has been spreading the word about us? hmmmblkwonder

Oh well, Aryek, you know now that they have discovered us, i don't think we will ever be completely of them....blkheadbang



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Mokie, I wonder the same thing.  It seems that lately you can't go onto any thread without seeing a single white person on there writing some crap.  These people have got to be the most attention seeking race on the face of the earth.  I for one want to find out how they discovered us so that we can put an end to this right now.  I don't come here to read what white people have to say, I come here to interact with my own people. 

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 Posted: Tuesday May 24th, 2005 22:00

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@ Everyone....Yeah I must admit... there is the possibility of a self hating black saying things like what has been said because we can't just follow patterns of people's personalities we have known... there are 'variations' of assholes...could just be ones who were banned before signing on with new names... or inviting others of a particular nature, particularly to cause trouble. I agree with you 100% Aryek. We say things in our space, but that's the thing about these whites because they are nothing unless they bother us. They need to bother us to feel like somebody. Remember that 'whiteness' and 'white supremacy' is only defined according to what is NOT WHITE. If we did not exist, they'd have no one to look down on, there would be no ethnicity and all would be the same. Their 'superiority complexes' can only be confirmed if they make them known. They need to feel power. I'm with you guys....I'll try and be on my best behaviour niceone.gif (just for you :) ).



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EXACTLY ARYEK. I MAGINE COMING TO BALCK NET..JUST TO WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THE WHITES YOU WERE MORE OR LESS TRYING TO ESCAPE! IT'S JOKE1 I WAS THINKING THAT TO MYSELF MUCH LATELY...Maybe you have seen my 'exchanges' with certain 'pale' members.?



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 Posted: Tuesday May 24th, 2005 22:12

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I am sorry some of us think that it is fun. LOL Especially when you hit them with cold hard logic and they have no response to the truth and start on something else.

Most racists are cowards anyway who would never confront you 1v1 in real life.



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 Posted: Tuesday May 24th, 2005 22:14

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calisto wrote: EXACTLY ARYEK. I MAGINE COMING TO BALCK NET..JUST TO WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THE WHITES YOU WERE MORE OR LESS TRYING TO ESCAPE! IT'S JOKE1 I WAS THINKING THAT TO MYSELF MUCH LATELY...Maybe you have seen my 'exchanges' with certain 'pale' members.?

I have noticed.  At first , thought that I should join in too just to shut them but I didn't have the kind of time it would take to put these people in their place, so held back.  After a few days of being unable to read any thread without seeing some racist comment by these trolls, I've had just about enough.



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 Posted: Tuesday May 24th, 2005 22:25

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Two points Aryek...

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Not sure if I even should but anyways... It came to the attention of admin that certain people were trying to get this site taken offline.  Their method was to provoke us in to being overtly racist toward them and running with the accusation.  When we banned or silenced them (the sneaky ones) they would complain and this affects the site on more levels than I can go into at present.

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The mods are not always of one mind and decisions are taken by commitee.  Since only I am online at the moment all I can do is close threads and wait until others agree with my decison to ban a member.  Since we come on at unpredictable times this is a lengthy process.  Remember too that we dont always agree and things go on and on.
How many of you recall times where I have been accused of being biased and abusing my so called powers?  Get mad at me for that yet when it suits you I am supposed to be decisive?

From reading here its almost as if you believe we WANT these invaders and are on their side?

Im so pissed off at the moment.... In a terrible frigging mood. 

Not with you Aryek.  I just am.  Everything you seem to be upset about here... I am MORE so. 



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 Posted: Tuesday May 24th, 2005 22:35

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I for one want to find out how they discovered us so that we can put an end to this right now.
They probably discovered us from one(or more) of their White friends that frequent the site, who pretends to be friendly towards Africans/Blacks. These people are always up to no good; if you let your guard down, because one of them seems 'nice', they'll show their true colors(pun intended). Being sinister is in their genetic makeup. This place shouldn't be a safe haven for any Whites', even those whom pretend to be 'different'. The few anomalies don't change the rule, they can't/shouldn't be trusted or accepted.



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That was put PERFECTLY... WERE THOSE MY THOUGHTS EVEN? OR IN OTHER WORDS............ :power.



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That was put PERFECTLY... WERE THOSE MY THOUGHTS EVEN? OR IN OTHER WORDS............ :power.
Great minds think alike, sister. Remain honest; remain real; remain focused, I love it! You know you have my support, especially when dealing with these devils.
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Thank you for the explanation, DM.  I understand things a lot more now.  On the other hand, I don't see why any of the moderators would not agree that the two people I mentioned should be banned from this site.  One only has to read one sentence from one of their posts to understand that they should not be allowed to remain on this site.  These two are trouble makers and are only here to disturb the peace.   I also find it funny how sites like stormfront are allowed to remain on the web yet there are people trying to get our site shut down.  I'm getting tired of Wester hypocracy.

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Real Brother here.

Again, I think when we call for Whites to be banned it only plays into the notion that they are Superior to us.

Hell we don't want to ban Black people we simply dispute their logic and facts and say they must wish they were White etc.  I think we should give the White boys the same treatment.  When they post make them support whatever their claims are.

Make them prove it. Make them lay out their argument to the point to where if they can't they look like the White Supremacists they are.

We have no reason to be afraid of White people (they aren't actually Superior you know).

Where are they posting at, I'll get em' ?

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jett black wrote: Its interesting I read that John Taylor post and I would bet my pinky finger that is was written by a Black person.........quite worrying really.confused3

 

Just read both the posts and i am inclined to agree with you.  If it wasn't a black person it's an Asian who wrote that post, very unlikely a white person wrote it.  Very worrying. 



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Realbrother wrote: Real Brother here.

Again, I think when we call for Whites to be banned it only plays into the notion that they are Superior to us.

Hell we don't want to ban Black people we simply dispute their logic and facts and say they must wish they were White etc.  I think we should give the White boys the same treatment.  When they post make them support whatever their claims are.


That would only work if they were here for honest discussion instead of trying to patronise.  Seriously what do you think you can teach the person calling himself John Taylor? (if he is indeed white) he wasn't interested in learning he only came here to spout rubbish and cause mayhem and in the process disrupt normal discussion and worst get the site closed... 

Nah ban the lots of them... couldn't give a sh*t the notion it plays... i don't want them here because i am not here to chat to them... and i truly believe they cannot help in anyway.   If i want to chat to a white, Asian etc... person I’ll go to a site called urbannet.com  :shock:  wouldn't be coming here... when i am on BN i am here to discuss with my people... not to read every wanker blabbing on about how he doesn't find BW attractive like white mans attraction to BW actually matters one bit...

Make them prove it. Make them lay out their argument to the point to where if they can't they look like the White Supremacists they are.

We have no reason to be afraid of White people (they aren't actually Superior you know).


*Sigh*

Where are they posting at, I'll get em' ?

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 Posted: Wednesday May 25th, 2005 00:15

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No probs

For the record NONE of the other mods wants those sort of people around and none of us have tolerance for that sort of thing it is just that we act as one and it takes time, that is what I meant.

 

JettBlack & Abs

Im actually sure that it was a whiteman.  The simplest explaination is usually the right one and though there might be elabourate reasons for a black person to do that (really I wouldnt be suprised) Im pretty sure he was white.  Ive seen more or less the exact same palava on their sites.

 

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As others mentioned this is not a place to explain and debate with racist people.  We are not here for that.  Someone said we are here to talk among us and with us.  Why entertain whites who insult us by answering them?

It has little to do with being scared of answering their nonsense.  It has to do with us giving legitimacy to them.

If someone calls me a gorilla why do we need a hundred lovely posts from villagers explaining with facts how we are not goriilas?  You legitimise a stupid person by treating them with respect they dont deserve.  I dont want to play silly games.  They are not welcome.  By engaging with them you give them reason to stay.

I say again, simply report them, we will deal with them and then IGNORE until such time as we delete them.  That way they have no reason to stay as we simply ignore and delete their posts they learn they are posting for nothing and no effect.  Stop giving them the effect they want.



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DrunkMonkey wrote: Aryek

No probs

For the record NONE of the other mods wants those sort of people around and none of us have tolerance for that sort of thing 



HEAR HEAR!
 

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As DM Said: You legitimise a stupid person by treating them with respect they dont deserve.  I dont want to play silly games.  They are not welcome.  By engaging with them you give them reason to stay. 


HEAR HEAR!! Dont have time to be p***yfooting wid no ignorant fool who is not giving nor deserves any respect. Why do we always have to be the ones who TAKE THE TIME? Why do we always have to be the ones to SHOW THEM THE OTHER WAY? Why do we always have to be the ones to ACCEPT all the crap that comes our way?? confused3


 


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Forum; As much as i agree with ALL the sentiments expressed here last nite, I have to say to you that our biggest problem, is NOT from white Racist or trolls.. It is I am sad to say from BLACK people.. Looking to either undermine or bring this place down.. That i'm affraid is a fact..

So to be honest we can BAN the white trolls instantly, but how do people suggest we do with Black people here and in America seeking to undermine this space.. because this is OUR BIGGEST problem not the WHITE trolls with their stupidty..

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A members forum with a 500 post minimum.



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jett black wrote: Its interesting I read that John Taylor post and I would bet my pinky finger that is was written by a Black person.........quite worrying really.confused3

I've just read it myself.

No, that was definately written by a White troll.

*******she says, hopefully*******



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Nevermind the trolls, why is the open forum looking more and more like the under 18's folder.



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Black_power wrote: A members forum with a 500 post minimum.

How would this work in practice BP?........

offtopic.gif.(btw Did U see Sports Forum...Villa/Bournemouth 48,000 at Villa Park in the Early 1990's for a THIRD Division League Match!).....



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Kunjufu wrote: Forum; As much as i agree with ALL the sentiments expressed here last nite, I have to say to you that our biggest problem, is NOT from white Racist or trolls.. It is I am sad to say from BLACK people.. Looking to either undermine or bring this place down.. That i'm affraid is a fact..

So to be honest we can BAN the white trolls instantly, but how do people suggest we do with Black people here and in America seeking to undermine this space.. because this is OUR BIGGEST problem not the WHITE trolls with their stupidty..

so what do people suggest?


Perhaps you could start by explaining why you think the 'biggest problem' is from 'black' people????? :X

Otherwise I for one, would be inclined to believe that it is you that has a problem!



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I dont know the ins and out of the technology required to support this site but maybe some sort of screening process should be implemented for new people wanting to register.

That is, they should be invited after a short questionaire(I can think of some questions to pose;))

If for no other reason that to stop people registering willy-nilly under various guises.

Waddya think? Is this feasible?



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 Posted: Wednesday May 25th, 2005 11:09

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mmmmm

i think the problem doesnt wholly lie with trolls..

it lies with some of us...

who know these people are goddam trolls...

yet engage them in some great debate or slugfest of words..

take for instance... that john taylor thread

sayin black women are ugly...

why did anyone reply to that?

im sure if it hadnt been hurled in the trash it would probably be 3 pages long now...

if everyone thought the way i did....

it wouldnt get one reply...

obviously the person who posted this... did it to irritate... and cause... mayhem...

and confuson..

and thanks to some people it works all the time...

i mean maybe im too stoic... but if someone makes outlandish opinionated claims... which clearly is a wind up... and you know you dont fit into that category... why reply??!??

like you're hurt or affected

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fuel for the fire i think...

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True enoughclp)

I notice he is back,I wonder what Bon Mots he has for us today,I await with breath that is bated.LOL



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Hee hee, it is back with its usual tripe, what a sad pathetic poor excuse for a human being,damn I wish I was as Soul-less as it but dammit I actually have some compassion for this poor troglodyte.

Imagine being so consumed with thoughts of us inferiors that you would waste any part of your precious life to write about it?confused3

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Oh Mods, why have thou forsaken us?

Are y,all having some sort of Confab?blktype



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Any Questionairre could easily be bypassed with acting.

I remember filling in my security clearance form...

Have you ever intended to overthrow the democratically elected government of this country?
Have you ever been a member of a group or organisation with intentions to overthrow th democratically elected government of this country?
Have you ever conducted espionage?
Have you ever commited terrorism?
Have you ever intended to commit terrorism?
Do you have a criminal record?

I kid you not these were the questions asked me by an official gov form.  Apart from the last one which is provable, how on earth can they possibly know?

How can we know that because someone answers all the right things on a questionaire that they are honest?

 

Truth be told I cant think of a screening process.  All we have is finding them out after the fact which is why I call upon YOU members to help us.  I dont recall how many times Ive told people to TELL US when these guys come here, so far only one or two people do.  I had to read this thread today to find that the recent vermin had returned, if not, how would I or any of the other mods have known unless we happened on one of its threads by chance?

Help us out here people.



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My questions would be a little more esoteric and if they were not able to answer them within 5 minutes they wouldnt be allowed to register.;)

As for helping the Mods out more,mea culpa DM, I know that Mods arent on site 24/7, I just assumed that there was always at least one on at any given moment,so now armed with the knowledge that this is not so, if I see something off key when im online I will alert one of you.:)



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You would have to be a genius to be able to form questions that ANY black person could answer yet not one white faker... 

Key point being that not all black people are of one mind like the borg on all things.  We need to be welcoming to ALL of us yet none of them.

IMO you cant really tell until they open their mouths... oh I meant type on screen lol

Thanks for that last...:)

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You would have to be a genius to be able to form questions that ANY black person could answer yet not one white faker... 

Key point being that not all black people are of one mind like the borg on all things.  We need to be welcoming to ALL of us yet none of them.

IMO you cant really tell until they open their mouths... oh I meant type on screen lol

Thanks for that last...:)


Are you questioning my genius?,LOL...........as Oscar Wilde said*I have nothing to declare but my genius*

The beauty of the questionaire is that they would have to answer said questons within 5 minutes so there was no time to confer,of course there will always be one or two bluefoots(even though all the trolls are not BF in my opinion) who will slip through the screening process but at least it might halt the onslaught we have had of late.



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*frowns sceptically*

Its sounds great but Im not convinced anyone would be able to answer them...

Gimme a sample question here on im PM... Im really curious!



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Its sounds great but Im not convinced anyone would be able to answer them...

Gimme a sample question here on im PM... Im really curious!


OK,give me five minutes, just making some tea.:)



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