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Posted: Friday December 31st, 2004 16:43 |
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Categorisation as a fetish. Inappropriate use of statistics. Beards as a fashion item.
Where do they get off?
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Posted: Friday December 31st, 2004 21:45 |
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| i like beards.
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Posted: Friday January 21st, 2005 20:36 |
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Sociology is sh*t.
Its all just a blag. i got predicted a D at a-level, and came out with an A. Dont get it still
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Posted: Sunday February 6th, 2005 15:55 |
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Would it be fair to say that it is imply 'common sence' elaborated?
I Study the Subject my self... They tend to stress that it is not simply common sence... but i beg to differ
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Posted: Sunday February 6th, 2005 19:10 |
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Its fair to say its full of lies.
Like the rest of the de - education system
"Underclass" ?????? 
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Posted: Sunday February 6th, 2005 22:18 |
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@Coltrane. Man if you are going to debate a subject do its seriously. Talk about blantant misrepresentation. Sociology is a very important discipline and like all depends on what you understand it to be, how it has been taught it eg the degree of rigour. For example, I read someone said Sociology is just common sense. Really? Well taken that there is probably one hundred different ways to view any one particular social phenomenon, whose commons sense is my man talking about.
Anybody who thinks sociology is some weak discipline or something to do, I suggest is a reflection of the quality and calibre of who is teaching you or where you are learning. Anyone taught by the late great WEB Dubois, or Professor Franklin Frazier and many more giants of African-American history or some of the great black and white socilogosits we have in this country like Professor Stuart Hall from Jamaica, or understand their work in terms of our development of knowledge and understanding and most of the things we simply take for granted today, I suggest would come to other conclusions. That would include many of the great women social scientists who have done so much in increasing our understanding of discrimination, sexism and how gender and other important things operate.
Like everything in life it is about your basic appreciation of things, your personal motivation, capabilities and imagination etc what you are taught and by whom and often where.
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 Talibah. Just saw your comment about under class. The term was founded by Professor Julius Wilson a brother and world authority on social policy. Some of the stuff he has written about what is happening in black communities, amongst black men, women, family organisation quite honestly is brilliant and why we now know on a popular level about these problems. Furthermore, his recommendations on a policy level are so radical no US government would touch them.
However, we should thank brothers like that. Because they are wise enough to know there is no broad and all encompassing and unified black community. Frazier exposed the workings of the black bourgeosie and what they are about and the differences among them. Liebow, Duneier and others showed us the working of the respectable mainstream of the black community and only natural that others would look at other changes within that group or new sub groups or classess evolving.
Nothing wrong whatsoever with a concept of "underclass" in helping understand what is happening and important differences when developing strategies of action for change or policy..
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Posted: Monday February 7th, 2005 20:15 |
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@ FB Hmm...
When I said Common sence made with Uncommon Knowledge
Its really about questioning why a society thinks a certain way.The agents of socialisationhow did such a characteristic come about, why has a particular idea, theory become so common.My previous comment was wrongly worded, i retract.
Having reason for an opinion really and I say that definition loosely
it helps to think more deeply and consciously.
It does honestly make you look at people differently.
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Posted: Monday February 7th, 2005 20:22 |
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@Advance spark. Sorry bro. I actually misread your post. No agree with
you.
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Posted: Monday February 7th, 2005 20:32 |
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No Problem.. FB,im a sis though lol
I dont think Id written it in the best possible way.
I read One case Study of Stuart Halls... The Process of 'Hybridity' regarding hyphenated Ethnicity, interesting Social Study. Maybe should start a new topic on particular cases.
Have you found any other interesting case studies?
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Posted: Tuesday February 8th, 2005 19:37 |
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hmmm
Sociology
initially i choose it to balance out my other A-level subjects which were science based
but I actually enjoy it
the study of people and their behaviur in their enviornment is important.........we do not realise how society and it's policies influence us.
We assume that we are bron with our way of thinking...............not really, everythin from the family to the Health system influence our outlook in society.
I am glad i studied sociology........ it balances out the technical aspect of science
BUT
the problem with studying sociology in Western countires is that they only look at it from their own enviornment
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Posted: Tuesday February 8th, 2005 22:22 |
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| Sociology is by far and away the sexiest subject I have ever studied..even though given the choice, I'd rather do my MA in English Renaissance Drama, which I suppose, from my perspective, is like anthropology. People who hate sociology are generally those who have never studied the subject carefully.It opens your eyes to the world around you and provide rational answers for why rich and poor families are likely to remain in the economic circumstances they are born into. Ever wondered why there are black familes that have always been more wealthy and successful than others? Its not always race.
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Posted: Tuesday February 8th, 2005 23:27 |
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@Advanced Spark. Sorry sis, to get your gender confused. Have not read any Hall lately regarding any of his new work. Hard to keep up with that man anyway, especially when your areas of specialism is elsewhere.
Case studies sis there are more case studies than you could swing a cat at. But it depends obvisoulsy on your areas of interest. For example I finished not long ago using a paper which was given to me boy about 5 years ago by Professor Tony Jefferson. If you know the classic Policing the Criis by S Hall, C Critichlow and T Jefferson. Well the latter. The study was entitlted "The Destructive Desires of Masculinity: a Case Study of Mike Tyson". You will probably find it in a book somewhere.
@Rammie, Sociology, Anthropology and Social organisational Theory etc. Then me and you will reason for ever, because it don't get any better than that for me.
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