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Posted: Saturday November 13th, 2004 09:45 |
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Donald MacLeod
Thursday November 11, 2004
The number of foreign students on American campuses has fallen for the first time in more than three decades, figures show.
The number of foreign students on American campuses has fallen for the first time in more than three decades as tighter visa restrictions and a less welcoming attitude after the September 11 attacks take their toll.
The news will be seen as a golden opportunity for universities in the UK to attract the overseas students who are turning away from American universities. The British Council has predicted a growth in the numbers of overseas students of 4.7% a year until 2020, while recent figures from the Universities and Colleges Admissions Service (Ucas) suggest that overseas undergraduate numbers are holding up in Britain.
In the United States, overseas student numbers declined in 2003-04 by 2.4% - the first drop in foreign enrolments since the 1971-72 academic year. The figures, which confirm widespread predictions, appear in the latest edition of Open Doors, an authoritative annual report on academic mobility, the Chronicle of Higher Education reported yesterday.
The findings were a wake-up call, said Peggy Blumenthal, the vice-president for educational services at the Institute of International Education, which publishes the report. "We don't know if this is the tail end of a short-term trend or part of a long slide".
She said that a concerted effort was needed to counter perceptions in many countries that the US no longer welcomed foreign students.
The Chronicle reported two other surveys containing more recent data which suggests that the decline in overseas students is continuing this year. A survey of major graduate institutions, conducted by the Council of Graduate Schools, found a 6% decline in new foreign enrolments this fall, the third year in a row in which there has been a substantial drop.
And a survey of 480 institutions by five organisations found that more campuses had seen decreases than increases in foreign enrolments this fall. That trend suggests, the groups said, that the overall number of international students at American institutions is likely to be even lower this academic year than last. The trend is especially pronounced in graduate studies, they said.
The American government is putting a brave face on the figures. Patricia S. Harrison, the US assistant secretary of state for educational and cultural affairs, said that the data pointed to a "temporary decline", but that numbers would improve.
In the UK, the situation is healthier, but the picture is not completely clear. Ucas figures yesterday showed a 1.7% rise in the number of overseas students who started this term, bringing the total to almost 25,000. However these figures could be misleading because the enlargement of the European Union this summer means that students from countries like Cyprus and Poland, who would have been classified as overseas in 2003, now count as "home and EU" students.
But Home Office figures show that the number of students arriving in the UK on student visas fell in 2003.
There are no figures for postgraduates, who make up 47% of the total of foreign students at UK universities. However, a report on the postgraduate market from the Higher Education Policy Institute this week concluded that even if the British Council's long-term growth predictions were correct, it would be a surprise if growth were regular or uninterrupted.
"It is most probable that growth will continue for some years to come, though not necessarily at an even pace. It would be surprising if sustained growth (seen not just in the UK but in other English speaking countries) could turn into a sustained decline in the space of a year or two, even if, as data from the immigration authorities suggest it might, 2003-04 does turn out to be a poor year," said the report by Tom Sastry.
"It seems clear that, at present, demand for Anglophone postgraduate education exceeds supply and that this is likely to continue to be the case for some time. In the longer term, however, it is not clear whether the benefits of study in the UK will be sufficiently profound to support indefinite expansion or whether providers located within large markets (especially China) will be the ultimate beneficiaries of expansion."
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Posted: Sunday November 14th, 2004 18:02 |
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not surprised. the worlds number one nation of immigrants has now become hostile to outsiders in a more overt way. plus i think people are better of seeing the world.
the uk wont get many more extra uni students as they are upping the prices. this indian girl at work has paid £8 grand to for her masters
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Posted: Tuesday November 16th, 2004 02:15 |
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| 8 grand for a masters is cheap.Someschools here (US) are $40,000 per year. I for one think we need to tighten up the numbers of folks studying here.
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Posted: Tuesday November 16th, 2004 15:05 |
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dont forget that International students are the ones who largely contribute to those universities believe me
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Posted: Tuesday November 16th, 2004 16:35 |
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COLTRANE wrote: @BS
dont forget that International students are the ones who largely contribute to those universities believe me
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I'm not so sure on that one.Schools won't fold because the # of international students has dropped.
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Posted: Tuesday November 16th, 2004 16:42 |
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Why would you feel its better to have LESS international students in the US?
I like studying with Cameroons, Gambians, Kenyans etc (who are not London born). Obviously most people I mix with are Africans or Carribeans anyway but most are born here and are just like myself. Its different meeting people your age from around the world with differing perspectives and quite educational too. Why wouldnt you like all that?
They are paying their way (far more than domestic students usually) so I dont see the problem.
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Posted: Tuesday November 16th, 2004 18:22 |
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drunkmoney the yank has no clue. most higher education establishements yearn for foreign cash. many are paying a higher premium for not being born in said land therefore contribute more fiancially
you shoukld be grateful for foreign students. i have studied alongside south africans eritreans indians nigerians kenyans tanzanian euro-americans too etc etc
it has always been the tradition of having people from abroad coming to have their education elswhere as it wasnt the country where they studied that was important but more so the calibre of the school itself
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Posted: Tuesday November 16th, 2004 18:23 |
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Probably he has a bad feeling around FOREIGNERS studying in their institutions apart from them paying $40,000/= for MBA's at spellman and Yale
after all Barak Obama's dad was a foreigner from Kenya we went to study as International student..
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why hate bro?
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Posted: Tuesday November 30th, 2004 15:32 |
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LadyDay wrote: drunkmoney the yank has no clue. most higher education establishements yearn for foreign cash. many are paying a higher premium for not being born in said land therefore contribute more fiancially
you shoukld be grateful for foreign students. i have studied alongside south africans eritreans indians nigerians kenyans tanzanian euro-americans too etc etc
it has always been the tradition of having people from abroad coming to have their education elswhere as it wasnt the country where they studied that was important but more so the calibre of the school itself
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I have a clue.I went to a school that had one of the highesy % of foreign students in the country(US) at one time.I think the problem is with participation after that martriculate.
Most come get their education ,never to be heard from again.
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Posted: Friday December 24th, 2004 18:03 |
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| My university has a large internation population. Everyone that comes really loves it in Charlotte. The university is as social as educational. The city of Charlotte is a decent size and very clean. Many times people come here and don't want to leave. My friends from Kingston Uni keep coming back to visit, and plan on coming here for their master's degree
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