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 Posted: Thursday January 26th, 2006 22:39

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we are being bombarded  that British universities need more money to attract students and invest in research to retain their world class status. but where is the truth about this? are they still ahed of the field or not?

Secondly,with the influx of eastern European students here in Uk, where does  African or Carribean applicants stand?

thirdly do these graduates from Carribean or Africa make any actual impact when they go back home (if they do) as I am aware the PFI thing is now rife in those places and jobs have been taken by redbrick graduates who get paid as expats

lets talk about this....



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 Posted: Friday January 27th, 2006 03:57

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This one for me is very tempting.  I see that enough of us overseas in America consider education from British University especially post graduate studies high class.

Now, I did a comparison of a notable Eastern European and African  of the University of London from  Wikipedia

using African Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje and Eastern European
George Soros


The Eastern Europeans whether pursuing education in Britian or elsewhere are seemingly being prepared for affecting people not only in Eastern and Central Europe and America but also Africa itself.  Not against the Eastern European just pointing out relationships and dont see an African being used in the same fashion.

Check this out.


Zdenek Turek  he is from the same country of origin as who George Soros, who also aided South Africa at an earlier point.  Maybe payback for the down payment he made earlier.

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http://www.amcham.hu/businesshungary/17-09/articles/17-09_32.asp

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http://www.citibank.com/southafrica/homepage/pr/prpr.htm#030405

Zdenek Turek Appointed Citigroup Country Officer for South Africa and Division Head for Sub-Saharan Africa      top

Johannesburg, South Africa – Citigroup has announced the appointment of Zdenek Turek as the Citigroup Country Officer for South Africa and Division Head for Citigroup Sub-Saharan Africa. Mr. Turek was recently Citigroup Country Officer for Hungary and Central Europe Division Head. The appointment is under-going regulatory confirmation by the South African Reserve Bank.

Mr. Turek joined Citigroup in Prague in 1991 and worked in relationship management and transactor roles until October 1995, when he was appointed head of Top Tier Local Corporates in the Czech Republic. In the ensuing years, he has performed other corporate banking franchise leadership roles including Citigroup Country Officer for Romania and Hungary.

Commenting on his new appointment, Mr. Turek, said, “I am excited about this appointment and proud to have the opportunity to work with our outstanding team that continues to deliver superior service and products to our customers in the Sub-Saharan African region where we do business. In terms of South Africa, I look forward to contributing to this successful business and to the active role I hope to play in the local business community.�
     
Press Statement
by Citigroup
4 March 2005

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And more recent story is here.  The Czech have major problems on their own if you go to the article but are "helping" Africa build fish ponds.  The British and the Dutch provide the transportation and accomadations or "ride" and " a place to eat and sleep" into Africa.  Strange indeed.

Czech experts help build fish-breeding ponds in Africa
[25-01-2006] By Pavla Horakova
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"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime" - says a famous Chinese proverb. But the second part of the saying may no longer be true due to a worldwide decline in fish stocks. So it may be more appropriate to say that you will feed a man for a lifetime if you teach him to breed fish. And precisely that is the aim of an international experiment going on in East Africa in which Czech experts are participating.


Lake Victoria

Up to 20 million people in the Lake Victoria basin depend on the East African Wetlands and their number keeps growing. But due to extensive farming, shoreline vegetation is being destroyed and the wetlands are becoming degraded. In addition, over-fishing in Lake Victoria has seriously reduced its fish populations. A project, bringing together Dutch, British and Czech experts, as well as their colleagues from Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania is trying to help both local fishermen and farmers.
The Czech contribution to the project is based on the centuries-old tradition of breeding freshwater fish in artificial lakes in the Czech Lands. The head of the team is landscape ecology expert Jan Pokorny.


"The initial idea was to try and excavate small ponds on the floodplains in the dry season. They would then be filled with water during the flood cycle and trap fish as the flooding recedes. During the following dry season, people would feed the fish if necessary. In this way water would be retained and the fish could be cropped."
Altogether 24 ponds have been dug in the experiment - four ponds in each of the six villages selected for the project in Uganda, Kenya and Tanzania. Besides helping to feed the local people, the fingerponds - as they are known - should help protect the landscape and its biodiversity, as another member of the Czech team, Richard Faina, explains.



"The fingerponds should prevent the banks from being dried up by human activity, such as harvesting papyrus plants on the shores and then planting field crops instead. The fingerponds will help retain water outside the lake. They are called fingerponds because they spread like fingers into the wetlands with little fields in between where seasonal crops can be grown."
According to the Czech team, four years of tests have proved that the original idea is feasible. It requires almost no initial investment and easy maintenance afterwards. Now it is up to the local authorities and people whether they will adopt this cheap and simple technology as an additional food-source.
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But if you go down some more the headlines says.

Major clean-up to get underway at Czech Republic's Spolana plant The Spolana chemical plant just north of Prague has become synonymous with environmental disaster here in the Czech Republic, with a number of high-profile leaks over the decades. Today the site is polluted by large amounts of dangerous chemicals and chemical wastes. But now a new project has just been launched to "depollute" it, with 35,000 tonnes of waste due to be dug up and treated on site by a group of specialists. By 2008 it should be what they call a "clean industrial site".

Czechs rank fourth in environmental management A new study produced by scientists from two American universities for the World Economic Forum currently underway in Davos ranks the Czech Republic fourth in the world when it comes to environmental management. The results of this study, carried in the British newspaper The Guardian, have surprised Czechs more than anyone else.


Based on these stories, African descent students are not prepared to handle problems at home and I would say that it may be due to support.  As we can see the Eastern European is positioned and recruited by someone in highly connected organizations from Britian and other Western countries while African descent students have to largely use their own efforts to position themselves in these universities.




Last edited on Friday January 27th, 2006 04:00 by defyfear



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 Posted: Thursday February 23rd, 2006 09:31

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What does this HIGH CLASS and WORLD CLASS stuff really mean?

On the one hand they want to promote the idea that intelligence is based on genetics.  But the school doesn't determine a kids genetics.  If the kids actually have superior intelligence shouldn't they be able to educate themselves with the right books and especially computers and educational software.  Is the promotion of competition as defined by Brits and CLASS as defined by Brits just a mind game.  A form of intellectual colonization so to be regarded as intelligent by them you must think the way they tell you to think.

The London School of Economic Incompetents isn't talking about the planned obsolescence of automobiles or saying how much depreciation is lost on them.  They also aren't suggesting that accounting be mandatory for everyone.  We can now buy used computers as powerful as early 1980's mainframes but we can't all do accounting on them.  Is it really so hard?


http://www.bsu.edu/news/article/0,1370,-1019-11714,00.html




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 Posted: Thursday February 23rd, 2006 16:21

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I think not, it can be argued that i attend (when i can be bothered);) a world class university, but the amount of times my seminars are cancelled its shocking to the max plus the un-organization of my department... But at the end of the day no matter what insitution you go to you are still going to have a degree next yr name.

No matter if you go to oxford or brunell

 

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