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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 06:44 |
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Autum Ashante
Anyone heard about her? The media have her down as the 'racist poet child prodigy' Can a 7 yr old be racist? very talented nevertheless. Heres one of her poems.
White Nationalism Put U In Bondage
White nationalism is what put you in bondage
Pirate and vampires like Columbus, Morgan, and Darwin
Drank the blood of the sheep, trampled all over them with
Steel, tricks and deceit.
Nothing has changed take a look in our streets
The mis-education of she and Hegro — leaves you on your knee2grow
Black lands taken from your hands, by vampires with no remorse
They took the gold, the wisdom and all of the storytellers
They took the black women, with the black man weak
Made to watch as they changed the paradigm
Of our village
They killed the blind, they killed the lazy, they went
So far as to kill the unborn baby
Yeah White nationalism is what put you in bondage
Pirates and vampires like Columbus, Morgan, and Darwin
They drank the blood of the sheep, trampled all over them with
Steel laden feet, throw in the tricks alcohol and deceit.
Nothing has changed take a look at our streets.
She performed this peom at a a high school NY for black history month. After asking white students to remain seated while she led black students in a recitation of the Black Panthers' Black Childs Plegde, Autum (now home-schooled by her single father, a Nation of Islam member and poet) then read the poem.
Afterwards Complaints from shocked students and parents led to a tape-recorded apology sent to all parents apologizing for the performance. Autum's father condemned white district officials as ' racist crackers' Autum defended her poem by explaining to the Westchester Journal News that white people are "devils and they should be gone. We should be away from them and still be in Africa."
She defiantly told the NYPost today:
"I feel good about the response," Autum said of the firestorm engulfing the Peekskill City School District, where her recitation of a poem at a high school and a middle school offended students. "I know it was the right thing."
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004772.htm
Its important that you know the person who wrote this article Michele Malkin  said this.
My conclusion:
Who is surprised? If you set aside a separate holiday for Black History Month in the public schools, if you set aside separate graduation ceremonies, college dorms, academic departments, recruiting programs, and government contracts and subcontracts by race, you send a message that hardcore racial separatism is not only acceptable — but desired.
Autum Ashante' is the natural offspring of militant multiculturalism and government-sanctioned identity politics. We reap what we sow.
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 10:05 |
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Autum Ashante
Michele Malkin
Backatya says:
If you didn't know who wrote which (i.e. the poem and the article) and you look at the two pictures, who would you think wrote which?
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 11:16 |
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I have to applaud the talent and strength this little girl has. She definitely is aware of the events that still ring true in reality today. Although this is hard hitting I don't as a child following the Black Panther way of thought she too just acknowledges the injustice and of course her words are angry. Pointing out the racism is the thing I think people can't deal with. For anyone (media/opposing viewers) to blame a 7 year old for being racist they as adults in the big wide world and not addressing it is unfair.
If this causes enough stir for people to say what isn't or shouldn't be the case, then I just hope it will also make people start or continue to replace and deal with what is and can be the case.
From what I've learned about the Black Panthers the focus was about equality, justice and most of all ACTION!
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 11:27 |
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| Is this the same girl who was punished in school for something like that last year?
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 15:34 |
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It doesn't take much for white people to yell racism. The child must have had them sh*tting in their pants. If you're not on your knees praising them, then you're racist. For 364 days of the year, we have to listen to their bullsh*t accounts of history and praise their racist so called "great thinkers" yet the one day we hear things from the African point of view, they want to scream racism.
If even 5% of black children her age had her strength of character, there would be no need to worry about the future of our race. But instead of raising strong children, some of us are too busy raising a bunch of loud mouths who know everything there is to know about 50 cent and other such buffoons but don't know jack about their own history or better yet, how not to live your life catering to massa's wishes.
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 16:00 |
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I definitely like that she's been exposed to pan-Africanism (or some form of it) but what I'm worried about is the little girl becoming just a marionette of her father's teachings. As we all know, children tend to adopt the ideologies of their parents as a default because they cannot create complex ideas of their own or becasue they hold their parent to such a high esteem. Is it right for this girl to be force-fed what some would label as "extremist proproganda" and not have a choice in her political views and if the answer is yes, then is it right for this girl to be persecuted by her academic society solely for listening to her father? Basically, I think she's a bit to young to be presenting poetry like that.
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 18:25 |
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Aryek wrote: It doesn't take much for white people to yell racism. The child must have had them sh*tting in their pants. If you're not on your knees praising them, then you're racist. For 364 days of the year, we have to listen to their bullsh*t accounts of history and praise their racist so called "great thinkers" yet the one day we hear things from the African point of view, they want to scream racism.
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 18:39 |
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NomadaNare wrote: I definitely like that she's been exposed to pan-Africanism (or some form of it) but what I'm worried about is the little girl becoming just a marionette of her father's teachings. As we all know, children tend to adopt the ideologies of their parents as a default because they cannot create complex ideas of their own or becasue they hold their parent to such a high esteem. Is it right for this girl to be force-fed what some would label as "extremist proproganda" and not have a choice in her political views and if the answer is yes, then is it right for this girl to be persecuted by her academic society solely for listening to her father? Basically, I think she's a bit to young to be presenting poetry like that.
As opposed to learning from......? About......? 
LOL @ "Force fed" Why the emotive term for what she learned at home? Would it be "force fed" for her to learn the other version at school or is that mere learning? Why the choice of words?
Yeah she is young and has a few things muddled up but the general gist is there and at least she knows the score. I'm happier with her being "force fed" that sort of history as opposed to "learning" like I did about the wonderful Europeans and how lovely they were to us.
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 22:35 |
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Le Moor..........Oh no Le Moor you didn't go there. U could have just posted article from the KKK or Stormfront
Michele Malkin? Also known as "Manila whore" She's racist cross eyed rat, who spurs nothing but hate on non white races to sell her books, TV time to right wing America. Do little research on what she said about Japanese concentration camps during WWII. She wrote a book defending internment of them.......Not that long ago, in her site....she put the home address's of students who didn't agree with her, young 18year olds, they have been living under constant hate from hateful groups, where they had to change their contact places........
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 22:51 |
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Pele wrote: Le Moor..........Oh no Le Moor you didn't go there. U could have just posted article from the KKK or Stormfront
Michele Malkin? Also known as "Manila whore" She's racist cross eyed rat, who spurs nothing but hate on non white races to sell her books, TV time to right wing America. Do little research on what she said about Japanese concentration camps during WWII. She wrote a book defending internment of them.......Not that long ago, in her site....she put the home address's of students who didn't agree with her, young 18year olds, they have been living under constant hate from hateful groups, where they had to change their contact places........
Glad you clarified that Pele as i was highly suspicious when i read her comments, hence my words at the end of the thread noting it important to read her conclusions.
She is Black woman right? Never heard of her before.
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 23:07 |
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Le Moor wrote: Pele wrote: Le Moor..........Oh no Le Moor you didn't go there. U could have just posted article from the KKK or Stormfront
Michele Malkin? Also known as "Manila whore" She's racist cross eyed rat, who spurs nothing but hate on non white races to sell her books, TV time to right wing America. Do little research on what she said about Japanese concentration camps during WWII. She wrote a book defending internment of them.......Not that long ago, in her site....she put the home address's of students who didn't agree with her, young 18year olds, they have been living under constant hate from hateful groups, where they had to change their contact places........
Glad you clarified that Pele as i was highly suspicious when i read her comments, hence my words at the end of the thread noting it important to read her conclusions.
She is Black woman right? Never heard of her before.
She's East Asian. She's married to a white dude, hence the last name and, probably, her politics. However, I must admit, from her appearance I used to believe the same thing(and wouldn't be surprised if she is some military brother's offspring, who doesn't acknowledge that side of her heritage because of self-hatred).
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 23:08 |
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Here she is...........
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Posted: Friday June 2nd, 2006 17:02 |
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DrunkMonkey wrote: NomadaNare wrote: I definitely like that she's been exposed to pan-Africanism (or some form of it) but what I'm worried about is the little girl becoming just a marionette of her father's teachings. As we all know, children tend to adopt the ideologies of their parents as a default because they cannot create complex ideas of their own or becasue they hold their parent to such a high esteem. Is it right for this girl to be force-fed what some would label as "extremist proproganda" and not have a choice in her political views and if the answer is yes, then is it right for this girl to be persecuted by her academic society solely for listening to her father? Basically, I think she's a bit to young to be presenting poetry like that.
As opposed to learning from......? About......?
LOL @ "Force fed" Why the emotive term for what she learned at home? Would it be "force fed" for her to learn the other version at school or is that mere learning? Why the choice of words?
Yeah she is young and has a few things muddled up but the general gist is there and at least she knows the score. I'm happier with her being "force fed" that sort of history as opposed to "learning" like I did about the wonderful Europeans and how lovely they were to us.
Yeah, your right force-fed may have been too strong of a word, I just feel that she's getting only one highly biased side of the story. Actually, it wouldn't be a bad idea to have both versions of history, one about the "wonderful Europeans" and the other from her father in conjunction with some outside sources to bridge the two.
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Posted: Saturday June 3rd, 2006 15:11 |
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Pele wrote: Here she is...........
LOL. She looks like she went from being a Pilipino, to Chinese, to white. I don't understand why there seems to be such a huge gender gap in terms of self-hatred in the Asian community. Asian men seem to be a little more secure with their identity than their women. What is happening to these women? Every second one I meet is with a white guy or is looking for a white guy. I don't get it.
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Posted: Saturday June 3rd, 2006 19:07 |
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NomadaNare wrote: DrunkMonkey wrote: NomadaNare wrote: I definitely like that she's been exposed to pan-Africanism (or some form of it) but what I'm worried about is the little girl becoming just a marionette of her father's teachings. As we all know, children tend to adopt the ideologies of their parents as a default because they cannot create complex ideas of their own or becasue they hold their parent to such a high esteem. Is it right for this girl to be force-fed what some would label as "extremist proproganda" and not have a choice in her political views and if the answer is yes, then is it right for this girl to be persecuted by her academic society solely for listening to her father? Basically, I think she's a bit to young to be presenting poetry like that.
As opposed to learning from......? About......?
LOL @ "Force fed" Why the emotive term for what she learned at home? Would it be "force fed" for her to learn the other version at school or is that mere learning? Why the choice of words?
Yeah she is young and has a few things muddled up but the general gist is there and at least she knows the score. I'm happier with her being "force fed" that sort of history as opposed to "learning" like I did about the wonderful Europeans and how lovely they were to us.
Yeah, your right force-fed may have been too strong of a word, I just feel that she's getting only one highly biased side of the story. Actually, it wouldn't be a bad idea to have both versions of history, one about the "wonderful Europeans" and the other from her father in conjunction with some outside sources to bridge the two.
Both versions of history?
History shouldn't have a version! History is just......well history. What our kids get in school is usually just plain lies............nothing to do with a version.
What outside sources would you suggest this dad entrust's with educating his daughter about the history of her people? The same ones that conditioned you to believe that when we teach our children about ourselves it's 'brainwashing' but when they teach our children about themselves, it's 'education'?
Were you joking or being serious with the stuff you wrote?
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Posted: Monday June 5th, 2006 15:46 |
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No matter what you think Backatya, history is inevitably devided into versions. If you take a look at the word history and truly examine it, using just simple reading skills and no knowledge of etymology, one finds the word "story". Now, given that the word "story" is in the word history, it wouldn't be a huge leap to say the history is just a collection of stories that tell us about past events. We assume these stories to be a loose account of what actually happened unless otherwise stated. Given that history is generally and overall a "story" if many people see the same event then they will report stories with alterations in details, some key, some minor depending on many different variables. These different stories can be said to be descriptions of the same event, therefore the same story, but with differences, therefore they are different versions.
As for the outside sources, there are a wealth of authors who write about all different kinds of history and each author has their own unique interpretation of what exactly happened at any event at any place in the whole entire world. The knowledge is out there, it's just a question of whether she will be exposed to it and when exposed to it, if she will read it.
You can use all these trigger words like "brainwashing" and "conditioning" to describe learning if you would like, but ultimately it's up to the student to find out as much as possible and then only after careful consideration of all the facts to form an official opinion on a subject. Not simply be told that this is the way it is. This is why I say find out as much as possible, use every "version" available. Only then will this little girl be able to truly think for herself and not champion a cause that she may not necessarily believe in.
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Posted: Monday June 5th, 2006 15:56 |
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No disrepect intended but I fear you missed my point entirely. Never mind.
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Posted: Thursday August 31st, 2006 09:49 |
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Posted: Saturday September 2nd, 2006 15:27 |
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| She is very talented and been taught from young her story rather than his. This is how our children should be.
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Posted: Saturday October 21st, 2006 00:00 |
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This is meant to be racist?
God when people say that it makes my blood boil. I have heard white people say much stronger things about colonialism/racism, are they 'racist' too?
What a fantastic poem and a fantastic child. I see the white powers that being stopping black consciousness from developing once again
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Posted: Monday October 23rd, 2006 01:58 |
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Behold the future!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RRY97Mh02s
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Posted: Monday October 23rd, 2006 15:59 |
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Lol. I have to say the girl doesn't seem to know what she is saying. I don't think she wrote this. shes a cute little girl though.
Why is she racist? Some black people are racist, she is not. She is simply talking facts. White people are crazy sometimes with the things some of them say. I can't imagine any sensible white person taking offence to facts
The only questionable bit is when she says 'this isn't for white people' - Poetry is for everyone and I get the feeling she is being coached to say this
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Posted: Monday October 23rd, 2006 18:34 |
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