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Posted: Monday January 9th, 2006 00:21

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Am I really evil, dirty, unclean and impure?

Negative connotations through my life I endure

Once more, others laying claim to my identity

And what it meant to me, considering black as a sole entity

Not complimenting me, even quite condescendingly

I was the personification of the word as it intends to be

Derogatory and not even trying to pretend to be

A friend to me, and not quite representing me

Temptingly, I am ushered towards a spark, a light

Do I have the heart to fight? me being as dark as night

A kid that was dark but bright, why right knowledge equals white?

Ignorance bliss in where white college people write

Look away from HIS sold story and on my missed old glory

And taking in this new information I hold for me

I now explore me pushing back "the massa" cha

As we take it from black to Africa

To African, to Afri-men and women not black and that means sinning

From black to african and back to the beginning.

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Posted: Monday January 9th, 2006 06:29

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Much kudos bro.

On point as usual clp)

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Posted: Tuesday January 10th, 2006 21:30

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Back to Africa, from Black to African

Like Dead Prez I know what's happening

Not trapped in sin but seem strapped in hymn

Praises to the lord, hope it's not an exact of him

Praising us, looking to a Lord that was made in us

Loving ourselves, Africans raising us

Teaching African religion and African tradition

The transition from naming one a black magician

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Posted: Sunday March 12th, 2006 21:27

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Forgot about this thread now I'm down to lay more science

Showing our compliance, while here's the black to African alliance

Too reliant, but this is deep, examine our own thought working

I'm talking about no more hurting and not to get caught shirking

Time to put in the effort, starting with the educating the mental

No time to be sentimental overstand why language proves detrimental

No it's not accidental, no these are no concurrence

Working on our mind state over time has been the interference

Put down from century to century, from age to age

Still goes on today, with the language we engage

The power with speech and words, no coincidence how it occured

Look at the world they call third, and the treatment that they incurr

Sticks and stones, break bones but words can destroy

Which is why language has been employed as a tool to decoy

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Posted: Sunday March 12th, 2006 22:38

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@ My Thoughts.....

Once again my brother you have created a nice poem in that.

I'm curious, the rhythmic form that your poems have enables it to be rapped....Did you use to rap or ever thought about it?.... I think your message would be something positive to hear, as opposed to the current music jus talkin about linking girls and stuff.....

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Posted: Sunday March 12th, 2006 23:37

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Great poem and message MyThoughts.

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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 15:58

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Influential wrote: @ My Thoughts.....

Once again my brother you have created a nice poem in that.

I'm curious, the rhythmic form that your poems have enables it to be rapped....Did you use to rap or ever thought about it?.... I think your message would be something positive to hear, as opposed to the current music jus talkin about linking girls and stuff.....

Yer, I was a rapper/MC back in my teens, doing all that negative make believe thuggish ruggish stuff LOL. I still like flowing so I write to give a message but still have that flow at times....I'm thinking of doing a bit of spoken word in the future however, I want to teef the name Floetry, coz that is exactly what I do.

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Posted: Thursday March 16th, 2006 21:57

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Dem say Black to African/ plenty love fi dat

Some people dont like it/dem say "we cant turn round the clock!!??"

"what about white Africans" and dem foooolllish chat...

took out a survey / questionairre/ and mi map

ask a bredder called Mickey/ "when African turn to black?"

him say " in 1643/ di Portugese first attack!"

mi ask a elder a Westmoreland "when African turn to black?"

him say "when we ina the auction/ boy you a damn eediot?"

mi ask Peter in Abuja "when African turn to black?"

He say " my brother it was when you fuss felt the whip on your back"

Mi ask Sandra down a Trinidad "when African turn to black"

She say "I dont really care Im one 1/8 Arawak"

Mi ask Abena in a Ghana "when African tun to black"

she say "black people civil rights/ was Africans ina dat?"

everybody have an answer/ but concensus what they lack

ask mi ancestor/ this is what I heard back..

dem sey:

Neither ina di Castle/ neither the ship strap

Neither ina the hills when you buss up the spot

neither on the island which you took back

neither when Rhodes come fi tek piece of dat

dem say a African first/ USA draw your map

Not United of America / neither United States of blacks

United Arab Emirates/ neither the manz on the block....

United States of Africa/ Marcus already draw the map...

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Posted: Thursday March 16th, 2006 22:31

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Mansamusa...

Talk US of A, is that what I hear you say

I look upon that same map and not see it round my way

Though some Africans live there they prefer the name black

Knowing they crossed seas, with that whip pon their back

Yep the Portuguese and others attacked and we fought back with bravery

And we only talk about the Africans who got taken into slavery

Never talk bout Queen Nzinga or the Mossi States

And the Haitians who never saw them as the boss, we great

We talk about those selling our own to diminish the links

But we united at a deeper level that most of us thinks

So when African turn to black, we can talk of the greeks

The "father of history Herodotus" him saw we far from weak

He revered what he name the black land and him dey teef

Philosophy and astrology and many religious belief

So while we quote the like of plato, aristotle and socrates at least

Lest be known wisdom came from AFRICAN not black shaman priests

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Posted: Friday March 17th, 2006 23:15

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MT and Mansa!

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Posted: Tuesday March 21st, 2006 23:12

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See to me its deep, heavy but for you it may seem petty

Never stop past lessons, I know we ain't tired already

The etymology of black; I got to see if you notice

An innocent description or was it an ulterior motive?

Seems I got more to say, just some thoughts layed out in rhyme

The transition, a mind state. Mental games played out in time.

Talk Africa, picking up the book by the Chancellor

Williams, Killing them with history and advancing her

Glancing far, I see the children of tomorrow

And hope it's in the footsteps of great Africans they follow

Remembering days gone by, ashamed of the very name (why?)

While I touch foot upon it's soil, this is the place I lay my claim

Lay my identity, representing me and my renowned kin

Just like India Arie you know you love my...

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Posted: Wednesday March 22nd, 2006 12:55

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@My thoughts. your talents have convinced me.

Make some tracks release them online or something, i'd like to hear u rap, i think you got alot of potentional.

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Posted: Wednesday April 19th, 2006 22:57

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Gwaaaannnn.....Me neva know se unnu did get on so....as we move....

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Posted: Friday April 21st, 2006 21:03

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Honourable MT /what is the date of release?

Also when the African to black ago cease?

Negro/negress and the whole re-po-tise

Cant understand di dynamic bout di whole met-mor phis blkwonder

Remember dem sell Marcus Garvey fi rice and peas

a no banana and yam alone travel the high seas

but still dem wan fool we wid dem black shaman priest

or MTV/ a beg we "stop N****r pleeaaase" blkheadbang

better the dog a mi yard /a him dem go tease.. blkfingerwag

mek him hold on pon dem han back to Christmas eve..

tru God bless mi life mi see some African trees

A long time now/ no feel no Cari breeze

Anywhere African deh deh/ mi must feel at ease

too much black deh deh/ we feel di social debris..

Love di way MT/ provide di mental release

Public warning/ its a social disease

Its good dat you mention bout di etymology

African to black must be a anthropology

Black to African complete the triology

MT your philosophy... tell dem..tell dem..

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Posted: Monday May 1st, 2006 11:56

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Yes Mansa lay down more, the mental philanthropic

While we keep talking till we dead this topic,

While it may be said it's myopic, but where do we stop it

Come across preaching or maybe just try an unlock it

That mental block. Listening to news at 10 o'clock

Showing the massacre of Africa for materials and rocks

We see them in shops, as much as we try can't claim the name

Rabid consumerism, is that where it became our shame

Proclaim to aim at being empowered by the term black or worse the N word

Mental deconstruction of the African, is where the lines then blurred

Yet many of we seem to love to diss_associate

And through debt peonage we miss negotiate

In the mass confusion of mistrust and illusion

That social dis_ease with ourselves a seeming profusion

Scared of that very name that comes with the taunts

While we flaunt every other race, but Africa still haunts

Why? Nothing to be proud of, we savage and barbaric????

No being African is not generic, an understanding proving esoteric

Measure distance from heights fallen, read it, no need to be nervous

While the truth of our civilisations and designs are starting to resurface

Starting to rekindle, the colossal size of our structures

Ruins of empires of old, we got to reconstruct her

Scales of monuments of stone withstanding all passing ages

Historical evidences of the truth are on a now lasting basis

Nothing to be proud of? Hmm Africans have always been gifted

When some don’t even know that previous civilisations existed…………………

So we move into the future picking up where our ancestors lay the foundation

Learning from past mistakes, and the arrival of the Caucasian

Talking before colonisation and before the plantation

Pride in Black to African could it be the start of our salvation?????

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Posted: Friday May 5th, 2006 19:34

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Easy Showman

Love di Anagram

Dem say we a dead out di topic but mi dont give a damn

have you seen the thread in the Black Forum?

A man come an ask all di West Indian

(Like we come from New Delhi / and love poppadom

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Contradiction in terms but hear di question

him ask Susette, Angie, Matthew Luke and John

Asking Eggbert, and Harry Harrison

a wey dem get dem name an a where dem come from

mi sit down scratch mi head/ and draw mi conclusion

it must be part of the puzzle /of Black to African

dem tek wey we name and identification

lets say we did colonise by Chiney-man

You would a name Hang Su

Mi would a name Mansa Wong

Pon mi mummy mantelpiece / expensive glass dragon

Big Budda pon di wall/ but hear di worst ting nu man

Women be using matchsick to mek dem eye long

Man induce jaundice fi change them complexion

Kinda a fanciful but people know mi no wrong

Black to African as we sing this song

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Some say we culture get stain/ Black man whats your claim

the A to the B/ a cause all di pain

B back to the A

bring we back sane

Sometime mi have fi ponder/ looking out di windowpane...

If a 400 year curse rest pon mi brain

Everytime mi get call--- by the slavemaster name

Overseer language still have we in chain

Change back di grammar African /dem say we language insane

While on di continent/ proper English dem praise..

Institute foreign language/ and forget we ways

Dats why Malcom use di X/ mi tempt to do the same..

African to Black cant play dem Babylon game

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Posted: Saturday May 6th, 2006 21:17

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The forum asks what it means to be black?

Is it me or do u see the contradiction in that

Then we asking Caribbeans why not choose African names

Could it be because we see ourselves as black in the first place

Naming tradition moving with those that colonise

Holding in esteem those that come with lies

So if it were to happen run over by the chinaman

No doubt the names will be in accord, not a minor plan

The steep climb began, when we started to move from B back to A

Some will still think we talking Arab, not AFRI...C.A.

A sensitive subject, holding the family name with pride

Not dissing parents from their standpoint, through their eyes a guide

Not colliding with my own but riding with my own

African by name and/or nature providing for our own

Given a name Marcus or Malcolm or Omowale or Soyinka

What ties in with the name of an African thinker?

An African intellect, diasporan or continental main land

We talk up differences but get treat as if we from the same clan

As we do ourselves, talk of uniting us

But we end up continuously fighting us

Over names of the individual and the name of the collective

While I'm hear to offer the Black to African perspective.

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Posted: Tuesday May 16th, 2006 23:42

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Black to African perspective

Kinda inventive

who tun we African to Black

what was di incentive

"why do we have a Black Forum?"

bredren well dissected

effect on di African mind when di term black was injected

well documented/ 500 years/ soon go rent it..

Kunte Kente turn Toby

A continent feel lamented

dats why mi love mi history right from dat we get centered

Pride never dented

Defeat never scent-ed

Black to African should be a government directive...

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Posted: Saturday May 20th, 2006 14:03

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Wow.

This is definitely my thread of the year! clp)

I hope you guys have put all the verses together some place, for future reference.

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Posted: Monday May 22nd, 2006 02:11

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How we African turn to black? Tough subject to tackle

Talk all day still end in a knot, in a debacle

Talking centuries of confused muddy waters

Not knowing where to stand in whose quarters

That mental slaughter, giving birth to sons and daughters

Unknowingly disconnected even to oral recorders

Contemporary "races" exemplifies how we try to escape us

While they rape us we can't see they trying to shape us

Segregate us in a final attempt to asphyxiate us

While we bicker over what to call ourselves to differentiate us

500 years later told some truths needed to be told

While Mona in Sankofa went to the past to discover her soul

Nailing African to the cross like becoming black is our saviour

Tell me by a name if your less African in looks or behaviour

African in the US or an African in Britain

Africans the world over, we all Africans trying to fit in

Why? culture diluted on forms ticking black british group

Double check, back up what happened to my African Naija roots

Is it the route I take or the places my parents have seen?

Or am I longing for the day I sing God save the Black British Queen

I mean can you aspire to be something while u can never achieve that

KRS once said you don't teach a bird to be cat

I'm saying neither teach an African to be black.............

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Posted: Friday June 2nd, 2006 01:34

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me nah tick no box / separate dem wan group.

Wont tick Afro Caribbean/ Union Jack nah salute

if mi tick Black African then Naja full of white youth

Showman you start di show/ still we nah play no flute

Just di other day I see on my computer tube

some "black" representive... well dem ina dispute

dem mission to put African into dis-ris-pute

D. Abbot and Councillor / dem a cook a big soup

well a big cinderpot / 5oz of untruth

dem sprinkle historical lies/ boil a big jackass fruit

Councillor bend up her face like a wickedheart youth

"Caribbean get all di crumbs /no money nah get recoup"

While Abbott stand up clap her hand like some Nin-com-poop

interviewer in him script him have a clear statute

only mention "black caribbean" African prefix no suit

(Even though Trinidad team/ have a little white youth..) bighairlol

while to represent down a Azania / pure European get recruit

From Port au Prince to Kinshasha we get hangle like brute

never dem should a try / teach African to share food

more power to plenty African in dem business suit

powers to di bredder down si lane who a toke a big zoot

mouths of old women at di well / plenty wisdom and truth

Tony Rebel tell dem Tribal war /we dun know it nu cute

Mi ancestor African system/ dont need no reboot

nah change di motherboard.. just need build di hardware to suit

Nah tick no box /let dem assign dem black group

African metamorphis

dem must think we damn fool

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