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Posted: Sunday June 17th, 2007 19:39 |
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First off.
FACT;
The mind is not subject to space or the concept of time.
To off the skeptical in regards to this. I ask said skeptic to remember their childhood...
How many years did it take for you to remember 10/20(+) years ago? It took you a fraction of a second and I'll quote most in the saying, "It felt like just the other day when...".
Now, if someone is in a coma for years do they have the experience of that time passing or do they, as we sleep and wake up, simply wake up remembering the time before falling comatose, albeit shady prehaps, the person will have no account of spending years in a bed being drip fed - The mind is not subject to the concept of time.
Now, what does your office desk/bedroom look like?... Did you have to get a bus to travel there and see it or did you, in a fraction of a second, envision your office desk/bedroom as you left it? Your mind isn't restricted to the confines of your cranium - Ie, it isn't subject to space at all.
So... is it possible to distort time? Is it possible to teleport in some way prehaps emulating the fact that the mind is not confined to such boundaries?
*Had to eddit on a pda.
Opinions?Last edited on Sunday June 17th, 2007 22:06 by Apedemak
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Posted: Sunday June 17th, 2007 23:04 |
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You say the mind is not subject to the concept of time but then you ask is it possible to distort time.
So does it exist or not? Or are you asking can you go beyond time? To the time before time/lol.
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Posted: Sunday June 17th, 2007 23:56 |
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Interesting also is perception of time and wether it's constant for all living things. Consider video cameras and frame rates. The moving picture is a progression of stills. Increase the number and you increase the fluidity of the picture but more importantly you can slow it down more. That's how we take pictures of explosions and falling rain in super slow motion.
Now think about flys and flying bugs. It's been speculated that they have eyes and brains with a faster frame rate than humans so they actually see in slow motion. So then to a fly is a falling drop of water truly slow or is their perception of time fast and time a constant?
As for teleportation that brings up the question of self and what is "you". You apparently have a soul and a self. But imagine if we beamed up by teleportation (Star Trek style) and your molecules were sampled into a binary pattern and then disintegrated with the pattern being sent to a reciever which remade you from local molecules. Which is you? The you that existed in the sending machine or the you in the reciever? Both? Okay but then what if the signal was sent to two recievers and they both reconstructed you from the pattern. Which is "you" now?
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Posted: Monday June 18th, 2007 00:44 |
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The Watcher wrote: Interesting also is perception of time and wether it's constant for all living things. Consider video cameras and frame rates. The moving picture is a progression of stills. Increase the number and you increase the fluidity of the picture but more importantly you can slow it down more. That's how we take pictures of explosions and falling rain in super slow motion.
Now think about flys and flying bugs. It's been speculated that they have eyes and brains with a faster frame rate than humans so they actually see in slow motion. So then to a fly is a falling drop of water truly slow or is their perception of time fast and time a constant? Ive come to the conclusion that time varies. An hour is perceived differently under different circumstances by different people. Even though an hour is based upon the great 'timekeeper' the celestial bodies. Or is it based on the frequnecy of an atom ( atomic clocks). Either way its a natural clock. The fly analogy is interesting..
As for teleportation that brings up the question of self and what is "you". You apparently have a soul and a self. But imagine if we beamed up by teleportation (Star Trek style) and your molecules were sampled into a binary pattern and then disintegrated with the pattern being sent to a reciever which remade you from local molecules. Which is you? The you that existed in the sending machine or the you in the reciever? Both? Okay but then what if the signal was sent to two recievers and they both reconstructed you from the pattern. Which is "you" now?
Exactly. Who is being transported. Star Trek being what it is/ neither entertained the concept of a being consisting of more than physical molecules. Even if the science was available it would be an "interesting" experiment. Prove a few theories one way or the other.
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Posted: Monday June 18th, 2007 01:46 |
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Hypothetically time travel is possible.
If a spaceship travels at the speed of light and you were on the spaceship tying your laces, the time it takes for you to tie your laces is 'normal time', say 10 seconds for example.
From an observer on the earth's surface watching you tie your laces (assuming it's possible to observe), the time taken for you to tie your laces would be in a matter of hours. You in the spaceship have effectively travelled forward into time. Time travel has been proven experimentally in an aircraft, but this only involved moving forward in time in a matter of nano seconds.
Whoever it was that said time is not fixed is spot on. Distance is not fixed either.
Travelling back in time is a much more complex issue.
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Posted: Monday June 18th, 2007 02:18 |
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Teleportation? Come on now, let's be realistic. 
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Posted: Monday June 18th, 2007 04:54 |
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tobitrice wrote: Teleportation? Come on now, let's be realistic.
It's been done already... with photons at least.
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