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Posted: Sunday May 13th, 2007 14:39 |
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We as African peoples are a strong 'race'. If it wasn't for our streangth, perseverance and our ability to adapt, to create various cultures within which to survive the human race wouldn't be where it is today. Granted where that is exactly is debateable but you get my point.
The ancients understood it, a strong diverse peoples need to understand humility. Their various cultures were, and through rites of passage (initiations set at various stages in a persons life) still are, systems designed to enstreangthen their peoples rather than spiritually and mentally shackle them as we see today, one of their teachings was/is, "The elimination of ego"
Have to reiliterate, our lack of past understanding has lead us to being in the situation/s we are in now.
Our lack of humility, our egotism is our main problem inflicting on our communities and awareness of each others varying situation today. God knows how many groups we have working independently of each other for egotistical purposes, at times speaking to one, "revolutionary" (Idealist?) about another with his cause is like speaking to the more "ghetto" and ignant of us, even within well known groups and organizations. At least thats my opinion.
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Is egotism our biggest problem and if so how can it be fought?
As usual I'm on my mobile typing this, kinda lost track of myself, was going to go into the, 'elimination of ego' but yeah, what do you think?
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Last edited on Tuesday May 15th, 2007 10:56 by Apedemak
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Posted: Monday May 14th, 2007 22:50 |
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I reckon you're spot on, the first problem is to relise that the ego is the problem, the ego has done a very job of convincing us that we are who we are, but we are not.
I think its not to subdue or suppress it because it is still a part of you/us come what may, but to see it for what it is and overcome its desires, to keep it under check.
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Posted: Monday May 14th, 2007 22:55 |
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I look forward to Kunjufu's response
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Posted: Thursday May 17th, 2007 22:05 |
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Hey Apedemak (what does that mean by the way?),
I agree with your title in that understanding the ego is important but as you also rightfully pointed out, sometimes we are too busy stroking the ego for personal gain that we have no interest in controlling our ego.
There's nothing wrong with doing things that make you feel better but when you have to start putting others down and playing completely petty politics and games to keep yourself in the positon that for some reason is so important...then you have lost. No matter how much you may think you have won. You lose your people, you lose their trust, you lose your respect and you lose your self. All to chase that Energy on the Go!
I'm glad you made mention about some and I stress only some of our organisations being lead by people sometimes who have let the ego get the better of them to our collective detriment. Who these conflicts affect seems to be the outcome of such problems. I at one point didn't think that there were many organisations out there that we actually ran and were for our interests as a people but there are loads. We just don't seem to be hearing enough about them and if more of them did join together in their efforts then perhaps their existence would be more apparent.
I'm finding in our business community this is also happening but to answer your question, the bigger problem seems to be a HUGE LACK OF TRUST. This is clear in our social circles and also in our family circles and to be honest I'm sick and tired of hearing and seeing it.....then from time to time we'll get agitated about why we cannot unite  .
Is egotism our biggest problem and if so how can it be fought? The first thing that needs to happen is that if the ego is out of control it has to be recognized by the person themselves. The only thing with that though is it couldn't possibly be them who has a problem it's the other person/people right? *shakes head * classic !!
How many people do you know (never mind in a positon of power or control) that could actually admit "yeah ok I did this or that to get at you and I was wrong". In fact how many people can actually say the simple word sorry?!!!!. Honesty hurts waaaay too much for that and the false satisfaction that can come from misuse of the ego probably brings even more satisfaction.
Trying to end on a positive note though, the ego is all about I ness and if we practised more of the we ness we could actually achieve much much more TOGETHER. Here we go again with the rose tinted shades on LOL.
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Posted: Monday May 21st, 2007 11:28 |
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Apedemak wrote:
So...
Is egotism our biggest problem and if so how can it be fought?
Pretty much a problem with everybody. Personally Ego, Soul, heart are the same thing, and even go as far and add Satan to that list as well considering the horrors it is capable of visiting upon this Earth.
How can it be fought? Develop your spirit or mind, then it easy to overcome ego, but only once ego is understood. I have to say without an ego of some sort people wouldn't get very far in life, since that where passion and desire come from. But it's the spirit or perhaps god depending on what you believe that gives understanding and wisdom, and ultimately it is them that overcomes the ego.
Celebrities don't want friends, they want fans.
Most people want to be celebrities. That should tell you enough about ego. It wants to be worshipped, giving more power to the beast. Most of us are like that to some degree.
Humility is key, because honestly very few people want to rip apart their own personality, and it normally takes some tragic event for that thought even enter a person's mind.
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Posted: Sunday May 27th, 2007 14:24 |
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Ego is a recurring subject, a very important recurring subject. How about a different approach this time?
There are three key parts of aspects of man, those three key parts being the spirit, the mind and the body. The process of becoming spiritual or spiritually-inclined involves connecting all three of these important aspects. The biggest enemy of this connect the ego, which settles right in the middle, at the mind, keeping the spirit (higher self) and the body (lower self) from connecting (division) and operating in harmony, which would connect one back to the Source, a true connection with the higher and lower spheres. This is parallel-harmonizing information to the seven chakras; principally connecting the first, fourth and sixth chakras, which facilitates access the seventh; here is a visual and text representation together as well. The key understanding behind both of these thought-forms is connection, harmony, balance.
In numerology, 1+4+6=11 <---A master number, two ones in harmony; the higher and lower, the masculine and feminine aspects, rational mind and intuition, spirit and physical body; balance. This is achievable for anyone willing to seek it, but it involves giving up the ego entirely.
How can we give up the ego to balance ourselves? Primarily by humbling ourselves by any means necessary. Our worth is not wrapped up in monetary value, our true worth is in how we help one another positively. That does not place us above anyone (ego 'I', separate from everyone else) because it is being of service to one's fellow man is to fulfilling a real need be it spiritual, physical, etc. It involves giving without seeking a return because it is needed, that is being humane, that is being connected, and that is what is a part of becoming whole. Giving, be it knowledge or otherwise may not seem a to be a benefit for those giving it because most people are not seeking it, but a few people are. The world has a nice side of the principle of causality; what one does is returned upon one's own head. So if one's heart, mind and spirit is in the right place, pure in the intention to give something of importance and priceless value, it will only be returned ten-fold to be enable being given out again to more people.
Therefore, the ego must be removed completely, suppressing it will only expand it and keep it presence constant in one's life. Ego is a cancer, if it is not removed completely it will only spread until it consumes one entirely. Once that cancer is removed by humbling self, then that is when higher thresholds of consciousness and understanding can be obtained.
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