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Posted: Wednesday February 28th, 2007 00:09 |
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Thoughts, intentions
I'll throw this one 'out there' because some people maybe aware of it, others will out right dismiss it, equally it can be seen as just my opinion, but it is what I personally feel I have observed and an explaination of it in my own words.
I've mentioned before that our thoughts are intentions, these intentions can manifest into real occurances in everyday life, in essense you are creating your own reality. The brain responds to electro magnetical waves, most people knows this, what if... bare with me, thoughts that we think of are like radio signals emitting from ourselves? these intentional thoughts are received by others and they in turn gravitate with a response to that thought when they are close enough.
Don't get wrong people aren't walking about like zombies constantly waiting for a command, although when it comes down to random senseless violence I dunno. If a good person is having sh*tty thoughts another person with clear thoughts walks by, what might happen if a not so good person picks up a vibe as they walk by? this is just an example.
Hence the need to be positive and to try and leave the negative.
Subconcious Speech (religious fundamentalists look away now)
This one I will again throw out there because I've only just listened to a radio show (KevinSmithshow.com) which talked about reverse speech so I don't know much about it except that there seems to be a small tie-in with the above...maybe.
It seems that when we speak normally we also have a some sort of subconcious speech which might be our thoughts at that time....spoken in reverse, it seems like everybody does this. If played backwards you would hear backwards jibberish then very clearly coherent words of what again seems like intentions at given points of interests.
We've heard about the death metal bands LP's that when played backwards on vinyl you can hear bad things like death, kill and all sorts of stupidness, these are true yet nobody has added anything extra in, it may have recorded their subconcious speech and this has transfered from vinyls to mp3s to reinforce the fact that it is recorded when you speak, no one else involved. Equally if it was a baby(yes a baby!) looking at something interesting an innocent remark maybe heard in reverse and it is these things that make you relise there's a little more to it.
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Guys....if you're speaking to a woman seriously maybe you might've had a inappropiate thought creep into your mind and the woman walks away, sometimes you know you never said anything but thought it, but still get the feeling she read your mind? she didn't.... maybe she heard you subconciously through your speech in reverse.
Sounds crazy doesn't it.... what if it isn't?
reversespeech.com will have audio examples from celebrities, politicians, honest humor and other serious stuff like OJ etc.
Hence the need to be positive and to try and leave the negative.
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Posted: Wednesday February 28th, 2007 10:54 |
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Jay Jay, very interesting indeed.
I'v been in situations when I am not feeling 100% about how my career is going, thus a feeling a tad confused, and for example, I had a conversation with someone and although I was speaking about what I wanted to do to progress, I noticed the person looked confused - maybe because my subconsience was letting of confused signals! I think there is a lot in what you have highlighted.
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Posted: Wednesday February 28th, 2007 11:32 |
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Posted: Wednesday February 28th, 2007 21:11 |
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Another example would be when I'm at work a person I work with complained about how the area is racist (east london into deep darkest essex) and how a customer wrote a 5 paged complaint about him being rude etc despite the fact he was being polite, actually he was polite and done nothing wrong, but I suspect the customer picked up on some sort of intention or subconcious speech from him and was well upset and was vindictive in return.
Yet I went out on the same rounds before and after the complaint with a clear mind, no preconceived ideas or notions intentionally.... nothing happened, nothing gravitated towards me apart from it was a good day, of course this is just my opinion of what went on.
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Posted: Wednesday February 28th, 2007 21:55 |
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There is the theory that there is no such thing as coincidence. Similar to the whole thoughts are intentions notion or thoughts manifesting into something real, is that occurance where you think of someone you haven't seen for a long time and the next day you happen to decide to take the long way home and guess who you are likely to meet on the way.
Another example when you choose to do something mentally and you suddenly meet someone who helps you on that path.
Or another example when you think of someone you haven't spoken to for ages, decide to call them and they happen to be on the same path you are on or you can help each in some way to progress.
Coincidence???
This school of thought suggests that this person (or thing that happens to occur) could happen to change the course of your life or they have something important to show or tell you to advance your life path so it shouldn't be taken lightly. It could be the smallest thing but it also comes into line with that whole butterfly effect theory as it can change the course of something no matter how meaningless it may seem at the time.
Apparently this sort of thing happens all the time but we either dismiss it as coincidence or choose not to take the hint that our thoughts has been trying to convey.
I suppose this same school of thought can apply with instant changes and patterns of interactions between people. Your true thoughts can manifest in the way you talk to people even if you are polite. Just when people just don't like other people's vibe. It can't always be incorrect, or simple coincidence.
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Posted: Friday March 2nd, 2007 01:26 |
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Personally I view coincidence as an off chance occurance way down the bottom of the ladder like 2 people wearing the same footwear (market saturation), I lean more towards synchronicity which is basically the same as what you're saying, it can be subtle, people do dismiss the cues which I think are either paths or things you should act upon.
Synchronicity to me mingles with timelines which in turn mixes with destiny and fate, I know a lot of people may disagree with this.
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Posted: Friday March 2nd, 2007 05:46 |
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Jay Jay - I find interesting the extreme ends of positive and negative thought as where I treat and respect both of these thought patterns as equal but opposite, most people I know see dealing with negative issues as, well negative, and see it as something to steer clear from. I more relish the challenge, or in other words my positive energy makes me look negativity in the eye and actually propels me 'forward'.
I've found spirituality has a lot to do with this and one thing I apreciate is what I call spirituality may just be another manifestation of those cerebral radio signals you mention. Most of what I call my vallues are derived from spiritual thought and I find only other spiritual people can relate.
When you get people interpretting your spiritual thoughts and opinions with their non spiritual minds it can lead to all sorts of chaos and that could be anything from lending or borrowing money to the reasonings and philosophy behind the belief of marriage and wedlock children or not.
This is why I also distinguish between spiritual people and religious people - they are not the same radio signals but clearly one person can have both.
But back to the concept of negative thoughts. When I hook up with other spiritual people, especially my muslim friends, when you hear us talk, most non spiritual people would interpret a lot of it as morbid. In many cases things are almost said in a past tense. Spiritual people truly believe in the after life and see this life on earth as a passing phase. I find non spiritual people, even if they are religious, see this life as the be all and end all so feel they have to enjoy every single minute of it and seek nothing else in life but self gratification.
Don't get me wrong, they will help others and may even have so called conscious thought patterns, even militant, but when the crunch comes, looking out for the perceived happiness of number 1 is all that really counts.
There's a theory suggesting 95% of people share that comon radio signal entailing follow fashion monkey business, drama, money as their salvation and soap operas etc - I've never felt that I belong to that group even though I can mix in it. It might look like a needle in a haystack having only 5% of the population to find companionship with but the reality is the remaing 5% don't necessarily share a common signal between themselves...it's a small world out there...but then maybe my radio signal is weak and all I really need to do is change my batteries.....but then again, I think not and the proof is in the fact that I can usually see the arguement/philosophy of non spiritual people, it's more an issue when it comes to them seeing mine
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Posted: Friday March 2nd, 2007 17:07 |
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Jay Jay wrote: Personally I view coincidence as an off chance occurance way down the bottom of the ladder like 2 people wearing the same footwear (market saturation), I lean more towards synchronicity which is basically the same as what you're saying, it can be subtle, people do dismiss the cues which I think are either paths or things you should act upon.
Synchronicity to me mingles with timelines which in turn mixes with destiny and fate, I know a lot of people may disagree with this.
I agree with the last statement but sometimes there is something more than synchronicity, maybe the name is destiny or fate (or perhaps because we ignore it it is named coincidence)...they could be seen as a spectrum of occurances...where they overlap, mix and blend with each other to produce the outcome.
My view is that we have a say in our destiny and it comes through the power of thought and directing that energy. Those thoughts are put out there in the universe then produces those things we call coincidences/synchronicity/destiny/fate.
So everything that occurs to you personally is not so much as uncontrolled as we like to believe, because our thoughts betray us.
Question: Do you believe in luck?
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Posted: Friday March 2nd, 2007 18:40 |
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Ahhh... the power of the mind can be easily misinterpreted. Don't you think at times you see and hear exactly what you want to?
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Posted: Friday March 2nd, 2007 19:19 |
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Misinterpreted, yes. What we consciously do or say is not always what we are actually thinking. I guess we can overthink something to be what we want it to be when it isn't. So our decisions thereof are based on those misinterpretations or misinformation we feed ourselves.
It still becomes a choice, it's up to the individual to direct it the right way for them. You ignore it, flip it, do what u like with it. But doesn't change the actual occurances only the outcome.
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Posted: Sunday March 4th, 2007 01:33 |
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Incognito wrote:
Jay Jay - I find interesting the extreme ends of positive and negative thought as where I treat and respect both of these thought patterns as equal but opposite, most people I know see dealing with negative issues as, well negative, and see it as something to steer clear from. I more relish the challenge, or in other words my positive energy makes me look negativity in the eye and actually propels me 'forward'.
I agree in general, to me the more subtle forms of negativity can be more corrosive to the individual, it creeps up & up without notice, things like stereotyping for example, let say a person is trying to walk down the road stumbling side to side completely drunk and starts to spew, do you see an idiot? do you look at in disgust? do you see a person with alcohol poisoning?
When a person moans and moans constantly do you agree with them? shout at them? or steer the conversation away?
Things like these to me has an accumulative effect on the individual. Not the best examples but hey it's gone past 2:30am and I'm tired. 
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Question: Do you believe in luck?
There's a couple of sayings....Luck is what you make of it, and You make your own luck.
In short no but I could be wrong no problem, smile and the world smiles back.
Apedemak wrote:
Ahhh... the power of the mind can be easily misinterpreted. Don't you think at times you see and hear exactly what you want to?
Depends on what you're asking and how you're asking I suppose, if you get something you don't expect or a differant way to think or look at a problem to how you normally tackle things, I'll take that as a cue.
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