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Posted: Thursday December 7th, 2006 21:55 |
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We will start with the term "white light". Why is it called "white", when it is visible without a distinct color? All the colors you see in the world are merely a reflection from one of the colors in the spectrum of visible light.
It is obvious that your eye can see white objects; therefore, "white" must be among the other colors in the spectrum of visible light. So how can light be "white", yet be made up of white light and many other colors? This absurdity is only one of many examples that show the racist philosophy ingrained in Western/European education.
Another example is the term "white noise" (or White Gaussian Noise) often present on both wireless and wired communication signals. It is random noise that resembles something like this...
Quoting from wikipedia, "white noise is considered analogous to white light which contains all frequencies. An infinite-bandwidth white noise signal is purely a theoretical construction." That sums it up. It is purely a theoretical construction. We can clearly see another underlying theory or philosophy in this construction, and that is the association of whiteness with being rather supertemporal. Again, why does this random, and theoretically infinite, signal have to be classified as "white"?
There are many examples throughout Western/European physics, chemistry, and even biology concepts. However, lets move to the applications in our everyday lives. The web pages that you look at when you browse the Internet are often constructed with a simple scripting language called HTML. Each color on the page is indicated by a hexadecimal number, where its number system has a radix of 16, as opposed to binary numbers where the radix is 2. The radix of "normal numbers" that we use everyday is 10; the number system is simply called decimal. Here is a table comparison of the three radices.
Now with an understanding of numbers, it is seen that the greatest single-digit number in hexadecimal is "F" (equivalent to 15 in decimal). When going back to the HTML color codes, we see an interesting mapping of the colors with a value or number.
Do you not find it odd that the color black is given a value of zero (0), (the same as 000000 in hexadecimal)? Yet, oddly enough, at the end of the color grid the color with the highest numeric value (FFFFFF) is white. In fact, it is the same as the White Supremacist power structure that places more value on a person the lighter (or closer to white) in skin color they are. The same has been conventionalized into the HTML color codes.
There are plenty of examples in science and technology I could point out, but that could get considerably long. So, have you recognized the ingrained colorism and racism in your education or casual learning of concepts driven by Western/European thought? Is the White man's racist philosophies thus so deeply ingrained that it permeates in every aspect of his life, or is this mere coincidence? Your feedback is appreciated my African folks...
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Posted: Friday December 8th, 2006 06:46 |
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You're reading way too much into nothing.
The mere naming of something as white or black can't be racist unless such nomenclature invokes a moral/social judgement. Is the person saying white noise or white light are positive happy things? I hardly think so.
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Posted: Friday December 8th, 2006 13:27 |
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The Watcher wrote: You're reading way too much into nothing.
The mere naming of something as white or black can't be racist unless such nomenclature invokes a moral/social judgement. Is the person saying white noise or white light are positive happy things? I hardly think so.
If you read what I wrote, I never said that the nomenclature involved was racist. I am asking whether or not these occurrences that associate whiteness with the highest concievable quantity/order is a product of thinking by those with racist philosophies. Basically, there is no reason to associate "white" with these things unless you already percieve whiteness to be on the highest order of things.
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Posted: Friday December 8th, 2006 18:06 |
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In all cases that 'white' go through a limited prism(prison) which is not the sole source of white or any other derivative from it.
If light travel from the sun supposedly, then I can say the the darkness of space (prism or prison) created the 'white light' not the sun because it can be yellow red white black on an eclipse etc.
Perhaps it can be intepreted as scientific bias which is occuring more and more these days.
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Posted: Friday December 8th, 2006 18:28 |
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Bump this thread. 
Another interesting question is whether or not racism is ingrained in the foreign religions that we love so dearly...
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Posted: Friday December 8th, 2006 19:35 |
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HatHaruhotep wrote: Bump this thread.
Another interesting question is whether or not racism is ingrained in the foreign religions that we love so dearly...
Oh, that's a given. It is present in both the Qur'an (as well as its accompanying Hadiths) and the Bible.
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Posted: Saturday December 9th, 2006 14:01 |
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If light travel from the sun supposedly, then I can say the the darkness of space (prism or prison) created the 'white light' not the sun because it can be yellow red white black on an eclipse etc.
The sun isn't any 'colour' other than white as it burns at such a high temperature. Maybe that same idea is applied to the HTML code and with the other ideas of white having a high value and, in a sence, containing all.
All values come from nun - zero. The shade black on the html code chart gives birth to all other colours including the high value associated with the colour white. As said in the Metu Neter having many does not mean that it is in any way superior to that that can produce many and as with left brain thinking, its divisions, means that it is lost within its high numerical value, streached into an infinity, challenging nun by seeming as though it has become everything.
HLF had an intresting comment;
One half of the sons of GOD are completely in-tune (intuition) (at one) with The Divine GOD, His Divine Will, Way and Divine Order, the other half are in complete rebellion from The Divine GOD and His Will.
They can't change certain things Shemsi, they can only pretend to so as to make us belive that they can in the first place, giving them power. You're forgetting what it means to be of nothing. Black has to be 0 in the Html chart as it is the universe, nun. Prehaps they can twist things slightly but there is nothing new under the sun because there can't be. Everything within science and all its divisions has its basis, is rooted in what was taught at the beginning. There is nothing new.
It would be intresting to see what effect shining black (UV) light into a Prism has. Would it create a spectrum in the same way white light does?
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Posted: Monday December 11th, 2006 06:12 |
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Posted: Monday December 11th, 2006 17:41 |
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Apedemak wrote: If light travel from the sun supposedly, then I can say the the darkness of space (prism or prison) created the 'white light' not the sun because it can be yellow red white black on an eclipse etc.
The sun isn't any 'colour' other than white as it burns at such a high temperature. Maybe that same idea is applied to the HTML code and with the other ideas of white having a high value and, in a sence, containing all.
Greetings
There is no 'official' claim that the sun is 'white'. There are scientist like everyday people who give their opinion on the matter but nothing 'official'. In all cases, opinions just shape ideas, that is all but not absolute truth that is unrefutable.
But if the sun is not 'officially' white then comparison to HTML color should not be made since its considered 'official'.
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Posted: Tuesday December 12th, 2006 19:06 |
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The HTML code was just an example of black being, 'assigned' to a lesser quality than white. What I was pointing out is that science is the escoteric made popular, accepted without its roots in Alkhemy and other spiritual sciences and just as it is represented in the escoteric as, nun/the unconsious and so on it is shown in, ''modern day'' science in the same way.
I'm sure the sun looks yellow as its rays pass through the atmosphere;
http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/colour/Tspectrum.html
http://www.vendian.org/mncharity/dir3/starcolor/
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Posted: Wednesday December 13th, 2006 04:59 |
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Didn't you ever take a perception course? All the colours together in the visible spectrum are called white light because when you add lights of each colour together, they create white light. Thus white doesn't exist in and of itself, it is the addition of all colours in the visible spectrum. When you perceive white you are perceiving a mixture of red, yellow, green, blue, orange and purple. In the same why, black is also not a colour, it is the absence of the colours in the visible spectrum. When you mix the same amount of paints of all the colours in the visible spectrum for instance, they cancel each other out and that is how you perceive black.
You can also use this to explain the numerical coding of HTML colours. Black is the absence of colour so it is graded 000000 to denote this absence. White gets the highest grading because it is the addition of all the colours and the middle colours are graded by their level of saturation.
I don't see where the racism is here. Black exists in and of itself. We are the ones who choose to continue to associate ourselves with it. So if we don't like the fact that it's the absence of colour, then we can simply stop calling ourselves black.
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Posted: Wednesday December 13th, 2006 05:14 |
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Aryek wrote: Didn't you ever take a perception course? All the colours together in the visible spectrum are called white light because when you add lights of each colour together, they create white light. Thus white doesn't exist in and of itself, it is the addition of all colours in the visible spectrum. When you perceive white you are perceiving a mixture of red, yellow, green, blue, orange and purple. In the same why, black is also not a colour, it is the absence of the colours in the visible spectrum. When you mix the same amount of paints of all the colours in the visible spectrum for instance, they cancel each other out and that is how you perceive black.
You can also use this to explain the numerical coding of HTML colours. Black is the absence of colour so it is graded 000000 to denote this absence. White gets the highest grading because it is the addition of all the colours and the middle colours are graded by their level of saturation.
I don't see where the racism is here. Black exists in and of itself. We are the ones who choose to continue to associate ourselves with it. So if we don't like the fact that it's the absence of colour, then we can simply stop calling ourselves black.
I find your logic to be invariably backward, and part of the indoctrinated line of thought this thread is about. If "black" was the absence of color, then you would be able to add any subsequent color to it and get only the added color. It would have the property of zero (0) in arithmetic, where 0 + 1 = 1...not 0. Following your logic, 0 + 1 = 0, if zero (0) represented absence of color.
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Posted: Wednesday December 13th, 2006 13:13 |
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http://www.exploratorium.edu/science_explorer/black_magic.html
In pigment black is an admixture of all colours and white is an absence of all pigmentation and colours.
Regarding light, black is the absence of all colours/light and white contains all.
Black light is no light, darkness, therefore when you turn on a coloured light the room becomes that coloured light and 0+1 = 1. In pigmenation black is all colours and has absorbant qualities, absorbing the light that would otherwise reflect to make the colour so 0+1 would be 0.
Of course UV isn't 'black' its blue.Last edited on Wednesday December 13th, 2006 13:29 by Apedemak
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Posted: Wednesday December 13th, 2006 18:37 |
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Apedemak wrote:
http://www.exploratorium.edu/science_explorer/black_magic.html
In pigment black is an admixture of all colours and white is an absence of all pigmentation and colours.
Regarding light, black is the absence of all colours/light and white contains all.
Black light is no light, darkness, therefore when you turn on a coloured light the room becomes that coloured light and 0+1 = 1. In pigmenation black is all colours and has absorbant qualities, absorbing the light that would otherwise reflect to make the colour so 0+1 would be 0.
Of course UV isn't 'black' its blue.
In regards to light, I think that both black and white are simply colors in the visible light spectrum. Otherwise, you would not be able to see objects that are black or white, because that particular frequency in the light would not reflect off of the object to enter your eye to see. This is how vision works. You are only seeing the colors reflected from selected frequencies in the full spectrum of visible light.
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Posted: Wednesday December 13th, 2006 19:17 |
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Apedemak wrote:
The HTML code was just an example of black being, 'assigned' to a lesser quality than white. What I was pointing out is that science is the escoteric made popular, accepted without its roots in Alkhemy and other spiritual sciences and just as it is represented in the escoteric as, nun/the unconsious and so on it is shown in, ''modern day'' science in the same way.
I'm sure the sun looks yellow as its rays pass through the atmosphere;
http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/colour/Tspectrum.html
http://www.vendian.org/mncharity/dir3/starcolor/
--EDDITT---
Issac Newton was a pacticing occultist, something a lot of people don't know.
Greetings again.
Light passes through alot of things besides the atmosphere. The eyes, the blackness of space, Manmade pollution etc But again this is just theory. Or highly organized language opinion about the 'color' of the sun.
Even time could affect it. I remember someone mentioning it takes 8 minutes or so for sunlight to reach the Earth. I dont really know myself but thats out there.
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Posted: Wednesday December 13th, 2006 19:31 |
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In regards to light, I think that both black and white are simply colors in the visible light spectrum. Otherwise, you would not be able to see objects that are black or white, because that particular frequency in the light would not reflect off of the object to enter your eye to see.
You can't have black light, only darkness, the absence of light completely or UV which is blue you can however see white light as it is the presence of the full spectrum.
White reflects, black absords.
When we get into objects we are talking pigmentation and in that case black is composed of all the colours mixed together, it would need light to be seen so in darkness we can't see black objects but it would be shaped by the objects/what light is reflected around it. No shade (pigment) of black is so dence that it completely absorbs light. Black holes do and we can only 'see' black holes due to the bending of light as it travels around it, then we are 'seeing' the lack of/absorbing of light.
White is a lack of pigment completely and reflects light which is needed when it is light, it is then 0 on the scale. In regards to the HTML code it is obviously light rather than pigment that is mixed to create white light on a computer screen.
This is how vision works. You are only seeing the colors reflected from selected frequencies in the full spectrum of visible light.
Its all opposites... white -pigment- is a lack of colour and reflects which is what is needed for it to be light, black -pigment- is all the colours and absorbs which means that it is complete darkness in regards to light.
And as said no object other than a black hole is a dence enough mixture of pigment to not be seen at all and as said if it was it would be seen as it absorbs the light around it that it would otherwise reflect it is.
Therefore; Black is seen simply because it dosen't reflect and white is seen because it does.
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Posted: Wednesday December 13th, 2006 20:26 |
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Light passes through alot of things besides the atmosphere. The eyes, the blackness of space, Manmade pollution etc
But again this is just theory. Or highly organized language opinion about the 'color' of the sun.
Even time could affect it. I remember someone mentioning it takes 8 minutes or so for sunlight to reach the Earth. I dont really know myself but thats out there.
I would much rather it be yellow as it was known to the ancients as gold is, 'sun metal' not enamel. I guess it is how it appears to us and as we need an atmosphere of oxygen to survive it being white means nothing but a lack of an enviroment for us to survive in. If it is yellow it would be prehaps an example of racism in science (europeans pertaining to be the light rather than recogising their lack of pigment and apparent appraisal of albinoism, an 'illness') but to be honest the stars are obviously white some are diffrent colours, some are bright planets, but a large ball of burning helium (Helios) would probably be white hot and the reflection of it from off of the moon is white/blueish rather than a warm yellow so I can belive it.
When you see a rainbow its the prism effect Shemsi posted only with the suns light and the relfection (?distillation?) of light as it passes through a slight rain or mist. Yellow is in that spectrum, if the sun was yellow I don't think it would show a full spectrum as seen in a rainbow. It would need to distillate/seperate the qualities of white light to show a rainbow.
As said, I'd prefer it to be yellow and to talk of endarkenment rather than enlightenment but to be honest I don't like mixing racial issues with anything spiritual end up sounding like some stormfront therion.... The spectrum thing got to me because it (still) has its values in spiritual sciences. The Kamu used to be shown holding what are now called shepards hooks on their sarcophagi which were (sometimes) coloured as the full spectrum of light as shown above, the Masai still have it in their tribal dress without the curved end. Newton knew that. So I guess racism is in science as they don't tell people where they get their ideas from.
Can't find the Amex advert to show it.
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Posted: Thursday December 14th, 2006 18:16 |
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Apedemak wrote:
Light passes through alot of things besides the atmosphere. The eyes, the blackness of space, Manmade pollution etc
But again this is just theory. Or highly organized language opinion about the 'color' of the sun.
Even time could affect it. I remember someone mentioning it takes 8 minutes or so for sunlight to reach the Earth. I dont really know myself but thats out there.
I would much rather it be yellow as it was known to the ancients as gold is, 'sun metal' not enamel. I guess it is how it appears to us and as we need an atmosphere of oxygen to survive it being white means nothing but a lack of an enviroment for us to survive in. If it is yellow it would be prehaps an example of racism in science (europeans pertaining to be the light rather than recogising their lack of pigment and apparent appraisal of albinoism, an 'illness') but to be honest the stars are obviously white some are diffrent colours, some are bright planets, but a large ball of burning helium (Helios) would probably be white hot and the reflection of it from off of the moon is white/blueish rather than a warm yellow so I can belive it.
When you see a rainbow its the prism effect Shemsi posted only with the suns light and the relfection (?distillation?) of light as it passes through a slight rain or mist. Yellow is in that spectrum, if the sun was yellow I don't think it would show a full spectrum as seen in a rainbow. It would need to distillate/seperate the qualities of white light to show a rainbow.
As said, I'd prefer it to be yellow and to talk of endarkenment rather than enlightenment but to be honest I don't like mixing racial issues with anything spiritual end up sounding like some stormfront therion.... The spectrum thing got to me because it (still) has its values in spiritual sciences. The Kamu used to be shown holding what are now called shepards hooks on their sarcophagi which were (sometimes) coloured as the full spectrum of light as shown above, the Masai still have it in their tribal dress without the curved end. Newton knew that. So I guess racism is in science as they don't tell people where they get their ideas from.
Can't find the Amex advert to show it.
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Greetings again.
There are many approaches to understanding certain aspects of light but due to language and lack of understanding of other cultures and their ways, science has emerged as a Western European crown of achievement when the bases of science is to understand.
Now scientist and researchers are expending great time and effort to 'understand' now extinct cultures in an effort to gain understanding to living more fruitful on the earth.
Their own bias may become a snare to them today unable to understand how the ancient world operated.
Science cannot be just cut and dry methods. It has to bring about understanding.
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Posted: Thursday December 14th, 2006 18:58 |
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Science cannot be just cut and dry methods. It has to bring about understanding.
I agree.
Still don't like what they call science nowadays to be honest. Too rigid.
Did do an experiment today though... Turns out that 'yellow' light does create a spectrum. Had a candle (orange glow) and a CD and it created a spectrum in the same way so called white light would. I've got a green shaded candle at home and plenty of CDs so I'll try that as well. If diffrent coloured lights can create a spectrum then what does that mean for the theory that white light is composed of all?... Not to undo myself. Will have to see if its a full spectrum rather than a partial one as its supposed to and a CD isn't quite a prism but it had the same effect.
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Posted: Monday December 18th, 2006 10:54 |
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The green light only showed a partial spectrum and was mostly green... it was the bottom of the bulb that made a spectrum as it wasn't coated. The candle was the same, the glow of the flame is orange but the wick glows as it burns.
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The Watcher wrote: You're reading way too much into nothing.
The mere naming of something as white or black can't be racist unless such nomenclature invokes a moral/social judgement. Is the person saying white noise or white light are positive happy things? I hardly think so.
I wonder if the term Dark Energy is racist as well?? Or Black hole.
A Bird shat on my car, must be racism...
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