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Posted: Wednesday November 8th, 2006 23:17 |
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Ever considered that amongst a supremacist system the matrix actually exists to preserve nationalist objectives.
Imagine you as a black man/woman, will have your every move mapped out for you, particualary designed to limit or monitor your institutional development.
In order for this to work you would need 3 tiers of operation.
1, The Structure.
2, Subject Operation.
3, Matrix operation.
There must first be a team of agents who are sworn to Secracy. Think Freemasons or similiar group. This forms the Structure. Then the 'Subject Operation', You, are operated upon. Bugging devices are placed all around you and even physically placed upon you involuntary and unknowingly. The final tier is the Matrix Operation.
Imagine your every move and every conversation is recorded. It would be possible to know when your next job interview was and even determind which interview you turn up to by limiting your number of replies. Remember the matrix operation includes agents in the Telecoms industry, the Post Office, Recuitment Agencies, just about everywhere.
When you arrive at that interview with that recruitment agency, the job you are going to recieve has already been agreed. The contract with your name on it has already been written. You take the job and your monitoring is left on low level support until such time you warrant adjustment to the Matrix Operation. For example you decide to move jobs.
There are even special powers amongst different agents as well. Some have the power to not just deal with you in the manner i have just displayed, but have the technololgy linked up to the originally bugs implanted. They can, if your part of the unlucky charter, activate this technology to change you mood swings or electronically harrass you to effect you medically or mentally. The aim is to exclude you entirely and forfill the quota.
A form of electronic harrassment using a microwave oven:
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Posted: Thursday November 9th, 2006 15:40 |
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I'm not quite sure what you're on... about. But its not that easy having agents all about the place like that;
Remember the matrix operation includes agents in the Telecoms industry, the Post Office, Recuitment Agencies, just about everywhere
I don't think its possible to fully trace someone 24/7 like that without slip ups and there is a level of tolerance we as human beings have for certain things... if things go too far an agent will have doubts about what s/he is doing if not they become inhumane to cope and soon can't funcion in society. I guess if its tiered, no one knowing what the other is doing or what its for it might be possible. Not sure what you're saying though... should we all install lead and foil walls and wear weird hats with foil sewn into them?
Oh yeah the masons are pretty easy to find, had a ''chat'' with a few not so long ago, they didn't like me .lol. can pretty much give them a call if you wanted, theres a Lodge down the road to me and they have lunch in the cafe across the road.
Bunch of toffs.
(was joking up there btw no offence)
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Posted: Friday November 10th, 2006 15:28 |
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Rebel-Lion wrote: I'm not quite sure what you're on... about. But its not that easy having agents all about the place like that;
Im talking can such a system exist. Does it exist even?
We know electronic harrassment does exist. The proof is in the technology and we certainly wouldnt have to look far for those evil enough to mis-use it.
Remember the matrix operation includes agents in the Telecoms industry, the Post Office, Recuitment Agencies, just about everywhere
I don't think its possible to fully trace someone 24/7 like that without slip ups and there is a level of tolerance we as human beings have for certain things... if things go too far an agent will have doubts about what s/he is doing if not they become inhumane to cope and soon can't funcion in society.
This is true, which is why you need an organisation like the Masons, Mi5 or Mi6, or worse still a modernised KKK or a Satanic sect for example.
The key ingredients are a large enough national or global brotherhood, sworn to secracy, a motive and the technology. You then have the possibility. Could make perfect sense as the technology allows you to work anonymously with no reprisals.
I guess if its tiered, no one knowing what the other is doing or what its for it might be possible. Not sure what you're saying though... should we all install lead and foil walls and wear weird hats with foil sewn into them?
The mircowave method is the tip of the iceberg. The implanted microchip is wheres it at. These can currently be placed in a subject without their prior knowledge or consent. Via an adapted gun (searching for pic) is just one method, corrupt medics another.
 
mark: charagma; from Greek charax
meaning to stake down into or "stick into"
You now have Global positioning plus the ability to harrass. Eg, mood swings, heart palputations, raised blood pressure, muscle detoriation, rashes, migraine headaches, etc.......(they're are the mild symptoms)
You now only need the technology in the hands of the wrong persons with a motive, like population control for example.
Oh yeah the masons are pretty easy to find, had a ''chat'' with a few not so long ago, they didn't like me .lol. can pretty much give them a call if you wanted, theres a Lodge down the road to me and they have lunch in the cafe across the road.
Bunch of toffs.
(was joking up there btw no offence)
Non taken. What most under-estimate about the Masons are that there are different levels to their Brotherhood. Only those on the 'deep' inside really know what they're about and what they're capable of.
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Posted: Friday November 10th, 2006 17:50 |
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Yeah, I get that. Its tiered with diffrent levels of knowledge needed to get to the next level so even if a person on the outside grassed the knowledge that he had would be useless because you'd need to be of the next level to really understand it, or there'd be a peice missing that you'd get in the next level. I think some are good and some are bad... there are Black Masons, the Ancient Egyptian Order run the Nuwabians, apparently thats all some inner knowledge, Dr York being a 33rd degree mason in pretty much all the sects he could get himself into and getting locked up for it.
I'm talking can such a system exist. Does it exist even?
Guess so, I don't think they can do it now but its definately possible, just need to have everyone accept upgradeable microchips and thats it.
I dont think about it too much about it in that way though, at times I think people give them power thinking they can do this and that, the whole UN is in on it, orcrastrated (sp) global events etc etc... makes everything seem hopeless. Was talking about the Oyster card in the other room and how thats used, they've got some scary stuff going on but I don't think its quite there yet.
The way I interpret the matrix is what is fed to a nation through public schooling and the media, a general knowledge based on lies or given misinterpretations.
E.G; The Evolution theory is left open for people to use against us. Talk to a european about evolution and they're likely to giggle and picture you as a monkey in tribal dress making reference to, 'the missing link'.
Throw junk food and chemical additives into the mix alongside an economy based on debt with people as unbeknownst wage slaves there you have a nation in a stupor.
Obviously not all of it (a misinterpretation of religion would be in there) but to me thats the, ''matrix''. A well crafted alternate reality. All with a hold on information, statistics.
In that sence then yeah, there is a 'matrix' a common knowledge you're not supposed to break out from or else be deemed a crazy radical.
Wage Slave was the term for a slave who is indebted to his master and has to buy his freedom with the earnings made. The term and its proper meaning was in use back then but the meaning has changed; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_slavery
Is the internet really a super brain device that we're all contributing to?... With acess to all the computers and soon all the knowledge in the world?
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Posted: Friday November 10th, 2006 21:36 |
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But how many people can this be done to and how many people are important enough for this to be worth doing to?
The Matrix is the culture and the palefaces are stuck in it too. The television commercials are designed to manipulate everyone.
The advancing technology will make more things possible which is why more people need to be truly tech savy. Not just owning some glitzy gizmos to show off.
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Posted: Friday November 10th, 2006 22:27 |
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umbrarchist wrote: But how many people can this be done to and how many people are important enough for this to be worth doing to?
These types of technologies are already in use to track terror suspects for eg, who are considered important enough.
I figure corrupt, cruel motives can take things a step further.
The key ingredients are a large enough national or global brotherhood, sworn to secracy, a motive and the technology. You then have the possibility.
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Posted: Saturday November 11th, 2006 19:53 |
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I don’t wholeheartedly believe in your version of the matrix. From what I understand the matrix movies are trying to explain to the average man/ women is the system that controls planet earth without us even knowing it, is far more complex than straight forward men in black suits. The freemasons are like the mask, people know about so they wont step any further and try to get to the bottom of who is really ruling earth.
People are to stupid for even the N.W.O to care about. They know they have 95% of the human race under constant control. Look at the consumer response very time there is a warning that some terrorist attack is going to disrupt water supply. People fanatically race to the super market like cattle released on a field. They buy up all the water they can, and the companies that supply this water sit back and laugh while counting the hard earned money of the consumers. People are so stupid on so many levels that its not even worth wasting your time trying to convince them of the obvious strings hanging from their arms. People don’t understand that the state will only protect them as long as they don’t rock the boat. In all honestly when ever there is a major gathering of world leaders it always ends in a conspiracy against the public. These people at the top don’t give a dam about the average person; they simply see them as slaves in suits.
Now the state is always on the look out for a person that will bring something that is going to directly challenge them as a whole. About 5% of people on this planet have an idea of what is really going on, but the vast majority have no clue, and are just lambs for the slaughter. Agents as you speak of can come in the form of FBI, CIA, or Interpol. You wont see them coming until they are sure you are a threat to their way of life. A smart man would never completely reveal his plans to his family members or close friends, as they could give the game away. Mossad is a high-level complex intelligence services that deals with the smartest of con men. It’s groomed to peruse people with vision and direction. People that want change and can implement it. And when I say implement I mean have money to make something happen.
A Czar Russian, back in the 19th century, found out that the Jews wanted to completely control the world as a whole. His Jewish girl friend found out that he knew this and she got back to Mossad and there was a Communist revolution in Russia, which swept aside the Czar Kings that ruled before Communism. When they want the truth to be destroyed they will try and sometime they win because people believe n them.
So the new world order is here to stay for as long as people remain stupid. I won’t put it past the even the smartest people on this planet too fall victim to this evil.Last edited on Saturday November 11th, 2006 19:55 by BIG L
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Posted: Monday November 13th, 2006 15:19 |
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So;
Yes there is a system of control = There is a matrix.
It all depends on your interpretation of it.
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Posted: Monday November 13th, 2006 17:33 |
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BIG L wrote: The freemasons are like the mask, people know about so they wont step any further and try to get to the bottom of who is really ruling earth.
....Truthfully, even they don't really control the earth, they have set up a system to influence the people upon it to convince them that the "reality" they create is what "really is", but it is an illusion to what the true reality really is. They want people to believe they have ALL control, but in reality, they only have what control over people that people give them, which in turn affects the collective conscious, which makes what people believe is "reality" a sense of reality in their minds.
And when I say implement I mean have money to make something happen.
Even money isn't true power or control, just control in the confines of the system (the false reality) and it's parameters.
So the new world order is here to stay for as long as people remain stupid. I won’t put it past the even the smartest people on this planet too fall victim to this evil.
Even their "order" won't be here for long, it is not really real. What is real is permanent, everything seen and touched is not real, but people have no perception of what is real if they are not aware of "What Is" and the illusions of "what is". Although the (man-created) matrix of control does exists, it is not real. This whole experience is like a chess game, evil swears out they are winning, but they could never win over the Creator of the game itself. Although evil is very much corrupting, it can and will only predicate itself unto its own destruction; "all done will be returned upon its own head". They know that and anyone who knows the whole truth knows that, but they can only lead the sheeple who are comfortable with allowing them to do all the thinking.
Those who know the Divine truth will be well in the bigger schemata of things, but this whole game that is being played pretty much separates the dumb, from the smart, from the intelligent, from the intuitive.
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Posted: Tuesday November 14th, 2006 13:33 |
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Truthfully, even they don't really control the earth, they have set up a system to influence the people upon it to convince them that the "reality" they create is what "really is", but it is an illusion to what the true reality really is. They want people to believe they have ALL control, but in reality, they only have what control over people that people give them, which in turn affects the collective conscious, which makes what people believe is "reality" a sense of reality in their minds.
I agree with your post.
Definition of Matrix;
1 : something within or from which something else originates, develops, or takes form.
Nature itself is therefore not a, ''matrix'' in its meaning as it isn't a system that originated within or from something else, other than God. If you include nature itself as being a matrix then thats a whole diffrent ball game.
A matrix is Babylon, city life. Organised religion etc etc. As said, there are diffrent forms.
I don't belive any man or group could ever control the populace/the world, theres too many factors involved. THey can only control;
the sheeple who are comfortable with allowing them to do all the thinking.
They could never maintain control over everyone at any one time especially on continents as large as Africa and America. All it takes is for someone outside the city to not register their child and s/he is off, 'the matrix'. Criminals live outside the matrix not to mention how many of InI are weary of being controlled, I'd say children are outside of the matrix as its only when people grow up that they become indoctrinated into accepting their surroundings and interpretation of reality, children up into their teens resist indoctrination of diffrent types and are scrutinzed for it. Spiritual people would be another group.
The problem with the Masons is that they (supposedly) seek illumination or some form of enlightenment when its impossible if you are imbalanced, if you do wrong/are evil as you'd have karma to contend with;
"all done will be returned upon its own head"
As you said; They know that. They would have to attempt to balance their wrong doings somehow or they wouldn't last.
How could the masons control the world without being or doing 'evil'? The only way is to pretend and have people follow an illusion of power.
What I've always wondered is;
If you are in control over everything... what would you want? Would you want diamonds, Gold? A new mercedes benz? If you controlled the world you'd be able to have anything you want... why would you need to make a stock price drop/fall to earn more paper when you already own the bank?  The only reason would be to create a situation, a cause, to then instigate a reaction, leading people into doing something you couldn't get them to do otherwise. Pull one string here to do that there kind of thing.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=matrix
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Posted: Tuesday November 14th, 2006 13:45 |
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Htp,
This link is from a document in 1979 - it makes very interesting strategic reading
http://www.freezone.org/mc/swfqw.htm 
Sophia Stewart an afrikan and originator of the movie "Matrix" - yes she is still in litigation with the Wachowski brothers. http://www.sophiaoracle.com/index.php
Interview with Stewart http://sophiastewart.unn13.com/interview.html
Is the matrix real .... in a metaphysical sense yes, it is alive and kicking
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Posted: Thursday November 16th, 2006 23:16 |
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Rebel-Lion wrote:
I don't belive any man or group could ever control the populace/the world, theres too many factors involved. THey can only control;
the sheeple who are comfortable with allowing them to do all the thinking.
Pretty much...not everyone and it is part of Divine Will that it would not be everyone.
The problem with the Masons is that they (supposedly) seek illumination or some form of enlightenment when its impossible if you are imbalanced, if you do wrong/are evil as you'd have karma to contend with;
In reference to the secret society inside of the secret society, those pure of heart, mind, and spirit don't get very far. They are the ones that don't get past a certain point, but those willing to do anything to "get ahead" go far in its ranks, be it truly lateral and down than anywhere near up in applied spiritually divine knowledge that is positively transformational.
"all done will be returned upon its own head"
As you said; They know that. They would have to attempt to balance their wrong doings somehow or they wouldn't last.
How could the masons control the world without being or doing 'evil'? The only way is to pretend and have people follow an illusion of power.
The only way to balance their wrong doings is by cease and desisting, knowing the nature of the spirit that controls them which they are like, they will not; evil only begats evil. The evil has already been done since days back, all the blood shed perpetuated by it's followers, but the portion equal or greater in reference to what they have done and will do has not been dealt..but it is coming....it is far fuller than a small cup of wrath, it's mammoth. The end of their evil has already been mandated. Having people follow an illusion of power is not enough to stop that which they have practically mandated against themselves.
What I've always wondered is;
If you are in control over everything... what would you want? Would you want diamonds, Gold? A new mercedes benz? If you controlled the world you'd be able to have anything you want... why would you need to make a stock price drop/fall to earn more paper when you already own the bank? The only reason would be to create a situation, a cause, to then instigate a reaction, leading people into doing something you couldn't get them to do otherwise. Pull one string here to do that there kind of thing.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=matrix
An orchestrate, but the intuitive already see the matrix for what it is, with no necessity to look at it's parts to try to understand it's whole, they already see and understand it's whole down to it's parts.
The power hungry never stops seeking more power and control; that is an unmanageable disease that eats away at it's own self. Enough is not enough to them, it is all consuming to their unperceived disadvantage.
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Posted: Friday November 17th, 2006 18:42 |
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mmmm
yes there is a matrix....
to which i am partially unplugged....
the matrix is a form of control....
manipulation.... it what makes many buy the clothes they buy... or the music they buy....... etc...
mmmmm etc... it even controls what jobs some people do...
crime.... etc etc drugs... is all injected by the system into the system...
the system cannot exist without crime...bad etc ... so this is injected into the system by the controllers of the system...
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Posted: Saturday November 18th, 2006 00:51 |
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Is the matrix real?
Yes, but there is two of them.
One is internal and the other is external.
People make the mistake of blaming the external one for all the world's problems.
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Posted: Saturday November 18th, 2006 06:44 |
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Peacemaker wrote: Is the matrix real?
Yes, but there is two of them.
One is internal and the other is external.
People make the mistake of blaming the external one for all the world's problems.
What do you mean?
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Posted: Saturday November 18th, 2006 15:01 |
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Posted: Saturday November 18th, 2006 16:29 |
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I know that if people were fully aware that they affect the system (matrix) and that it exists off of the people like a leech, it probably would not exist, because the system only takes what one gives it to create a dependency, control (of self), responsibility (of self), etc. when these things belong to each and every person.
That is why the matrix did not take power, the people gave the matrix power over them, the people must take back the power over themselves....everyone already has it, but has to acknowledge it and take full ownership of it.
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Posted: Sunday November 19th, 2006 17:24 |
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That is why the matrix did not take power, the people gave the matrix power over them, the people must take back the power over themselves....everyone already has it, but has to acknowledge it and take full ownership of it.
The social-psychological/economic matrix existed and was evolving before we were born. My Random House dictionary says "Rome is the matrix for Western civilization." How much of Roman culture can be seen in England and America today?
But Rome did not have the internet. The psychological matrix is determined by what people think and believe. The World Wide Web enables us to bypass the official information channels of schools and newspapaers and television. Shall we use the cyber-matrix to disrupt the social matrix or not?
Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work... when you go to church... when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind. |
| Morpheus: The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it. |
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Posted: Monday November 20th, 2006 00:28 |
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Pick up a newspaper and you'll find small details of improvements to the matrix.
I read in a newspaper that wheely bins are being chipped apparrently to find out if people are recycling as they should. (i know i dont understand it either) . no one was told about this but you can ask to have them removed. sorry but i cant remember what newspaper that was maybe it was the guardian im not sure.
Another paper i read more recently said that secret microphones were being set up near pubs to monitor noise levels. but would you think that that is all their being used for.
Oh and dont forget your caught on camera over 300 times a day. and if you live in london like i do you'll know its bad.
How do you know if there arent people monitoring this thread and laughing at us.
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