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Posted: Monday October 23rd, 2006 09:42 |
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| As we head deeper and deeper into a highly computer reliant age, I thought we should contemplate this question.
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Posted: Wednesday November 8th, 2006 23:44 |
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| Machines only do what they have been programmed to by their inventors. Obviously computers and other electronic devices are incapable of independent thought, therefore most jobs will always require humans no matter what. This notion of machines taking over in the future on some I,Robot steez is just sensational nonsense.
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Posted: Sunday December 31st, 2006 21:57 |
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Have a wonderfully aweSOME New Year Everybody!!!
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Posted: Saturday March 10th, 2007 18:04 |
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It has been a while since this thread was created, but the question was a good "thinker question". A machine, be it a simple industrial one or a more complex computer, they still "process" and as of yet do not (pseudo)"think".
"Compute", "process" are both processions; they are linear and static modes of mining data or information. Real thinking is a process, but not such a linear process as that of computers; thinking involves linear processing but also includes other abilities such as intuit, contextualizing, and sensing-feeling, that is what makes it a robust and dynamic mode of processing data or information.
What may be alarming to some is that processing only requires the data input presented or programmed into the machine to achieve a pre-determine output or thought (even action), it does not have the capacity (unless programmed) to take it upon itself to re-evaulate or assess the source input data for true validity....with that said, if man knows only to process but not think, although he/she may be organic, what would separate him/her from being a machine in that capacity?
Something to think about.
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Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 00:19 |
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Gorgeous picture of a modern day African themed wedding couple, Prince Hakeem! Where'd you ever find it! It's *almost* making me want to get married! lol...almost! Hmm...lol...hold up! Wait a minute. Wasn't Prince Akeem the name of the Eddie Murphy character in...?!?
Lmao! Well, alrighty then!
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Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 13:26 |
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Yes, computers CAN think.
Technology and the sophistication in heuristics designed determines the intelligence or how well a machine can think.
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Posted: Wednesday March 14th, 2007 19:14 |
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| yea we can i aint human you know.
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Posted: Monday March 19th, 2007 18:01 |
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Will future androids be able to think?
We already have them! What's more, they are capable of becoming world leaders and starting armageddon!
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Posted: Wednesday March 28th, 2007 14:51 |
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| if by definition you mean recat to a prediscribed series of events, like we humans then yes, a better question is will the a.i. ever be alive andwhat consitutes life
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Posted: Wednesday March 28th, 2007 15:01 |
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No they can't. They perform calculations over and over again. There isn't a single operation we use a computer for it actually understands.
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Posted: Wednesday March 28th, 2007 15:46 |
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The Watcher wrote: No they can't. They perform calculations over and over again. There isn't a single operation we use a computer for it actually understands.
have you seen asimo, the robot that walks on its own,.....by the way define understand...
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Posted: Wednesday March 28th, 2007 18:59 |
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If I teach you a thing and you memorise what I teach you. Can you apply it to other situations? For example if I teach you a formula, fine you know the rule and can apply it. But can you recognise it if the question doesn't put it in the way you've been taught? Different wording, transposed with different algebra or simply not mentioned. This is being able to understand it.
A computer doesn't do these things.
Another example. You write a big essay out in MS Word. Do you imagine your computer knows what you're talking about? 
And yeah I've seen Asimo. He doesn't even have the inteligence of a small rodent.
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Posted: Friday March 30th, 2007 14:19 |
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But then couldn't you program a computer with millions of various reactions to diffrent situations allowing it to choose randomly like you would a CD player on which to go by at any one time?
I mean lets say you've programmed a robot to think in millions of diffrent ways and connected its choice of those settings to various situations as you would a firewall for example, hundreds if not thousands of viruses out there, you could program a firewall and virus catcher to react diffrently to each one in the same way it could be programmed to deal with various situations its random selection of reactions could constitute to being 'thought' its persona dictated by the various conditions its been through thus effecting that 'thought' process....
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Posted: Friday March 30th, 2007 14:27 |
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Can machines think?
Another peculiar thought:
Are the severely brain-damaged machines?
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Posted: Wednesday April 4th, 2007 10:28 |
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i just read in a paper on sunday that a charter for robots rights has been drawn up , seriously ! see the link below …
http://www.camlawblog.com/ethical-issues-671-robot-ethics-charter-drafted.html
Here’s a snippet ; A five-member task force that includes futurists and a science-fiction writer began work on the charter last November.
Gianmarco Veruggio of the School of Robotics in Genoa, Italy, is recognized as a leading authority on roboethics.
"Robotics is a new science with a manifold of applications that can assist humans and solve many, many problems," he said.
"However, as in every field of science and technology, sensitive areas open up, and it is the specific responsibility of the scientists who work in this field to face this new array of social and ethical problems."
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Posted: Wednesday April 4th, 2007 10:48 |
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... I mean lets say the energy supply to the computer is low or its caught a new virus it can't get rid of. There could be a function where it'd understand that lets say it would have a green to red lighting system where its board could tell how ill it was. It could have various settings attached to what its levels are. If they're green and the computer is working fine, unaffected by anything or given an upgrade the computer would be in a good mood and would have various reponces to that mood even futher levels within those moods to determine others but not to get too deep it would be able to express its ''happyness'' in as many ways as possible selecting a welcome phrase to state as such depending on its 'happy levels' mood settings.
The ''thought'' process would be the random settings as it could easily be programmed with depth until it functions according to those settings and externals enough to constitute what could be called thought. Give it the internet as a brain, with its own search function, spiders that look for results in a more accurate and approriate manner and you could be on your way to a super computer that can function on its own and answer complicated questions, it could play back media and all sorts. Maybe it could work off of harmonics... its mood settings and thus responces could be determined/read by a series of harmonics in its system light high pitches for a good mood low bass rumbles for a bad one the vibrations given off of those harmonic moods then dictate to its internal programming so it functions according to if you see my point.
So basically you're assigning a computer with functions to match our own. Someone asks me a question I search within my memory for an answer. Where I'm faced with a situation I again search wthin myself according to my mood for a responce to that situation basically understand ing that we are ''computers'' and cross relating.
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