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Posted: Saturday July 8th, 2006 20:03 |
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The Kabbalah
The tree of life is found in African folklore and is inscribed into the walls of the pyramids, its debateable weather the Hebrews brought it to Egypt or Visa Versa, most would have it that the Hebrews brought it to Egypt although this would clash with their story of being enslaved in Egypt. It has been related to the Tarot cards and is used in psycology. The Tarot cards themselves are said to be from the same place, some say they are from Toth himself.
Each sethriot is said to relate to an emotion people travelling along the lines inbetween each one (another pic of that later). It also relates to the structure of DNA... or is made to relate to the stucture of DNA as well as the Kulundini in Eastern meditation... by meditating a person is said to hop from one sefriot (the bubbles) to another finally achiving them all or reaching Keter (The Crown)/Shekhinah (The Kingdom) to achive enlightenment.
There are many difffrent understandings of the Kabbalah
Guessing the 11th sepriot is inbetween 'Keter' and 'Tiferet' Fine1952... I think its Daath... not sure what qualities it has, will have to get to it. If anyone has more info on the Kabbalah please drop the knowledge, would be cool to hear what the Netu Meter (sp) says about it.

1; The Crown = Keter
2; Wisdom = Hokhmah
3; Binah = Understanding
4; Hesed = Mercy
5; Din = Severity
6; Tiferet = Beauty
7; Nezah = Victory
8; Hod = Splendor
9; Yesod = Foundation
10; Shekhinah = Kingdom
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Diffrent so called, Sefriot have a relation to chakra points in the body. Although as said, the Kabbalah has many diffrent applications and is a science within itself. Keter is reffered to in Jewish mystisism as being the, 'God head' the higher self that one seeks to be in communication with (Socrates) residing just above the head. Unlike the Eastern understanding the energy is brought down the spine to 'Shekhinah/kingdom' (1 straight down to 10) which would then reside at the feet. The eastern faiths would have it that the energy is raised rather than brought down.
As Kulundini is;
''the raising of ones energy force through chakras to achive enlightenment.''
This is (in Buddhahic circles) in relation to the 'Ten Paramitas' as,
''the aspirations to gain sainthood and Buddhahood''.
These being;
1; Dana = Generocity
2; Sila = Virtue
3; Nekkhamma = Renunciation (wtf?)
4; Pa~~a = Wisdom
5; Viriya = Effort
6; Khanti = Forbearance
7; Sacca = Truth
8; Adhittana = Determintation
9; Metta = Loving kindness
10; Upekkha = Equanimity
(NOT in order, would have to work that one out)
^Kabbalic relation to the Chakras
A description of Sefriot in relation to the body and Chakras;
The first Sefriot rerepresent the head, and, in the Zohar, the three cavities of the brain; the fourth and fifth, the arms; the sixth, the torso; the seventh and eighth , the legs; the ninth, the sexual organ; and the tenth refers to the all embracing totality of the imageā¦
(Kabbalah article p. 571)
The man thus represented is called the Adam Kadmon (The Primordial Adam; or the First Adam). This image is the very image of G-d in which Adam was created. The Adam Kadmon, is in essence the same as the Middle Pillar of the G-dhead, since he brings both the masculine and feminine aspects of Eyn Sof into perfect balance.
Jewish mystics attempt to activate these chakras by means of ritual which is said to be dangerous by some as the improper charging of certain chakras can lead to death by means of a heart attack/shock to the system and can even lead to insanity as chakras can over load or be over laden with energy. When controlled a person can balance the energies to become enlightened. The same is said of raising the kulundini in Eastern circles.
Note; The 'o' in God is left out in fear by some Jewish peoples.
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Posted: Saturday July 8th, 2006 20:53 |
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&RL a question not a challenge. Is it meditation which includes initiation which is used to move from one level of conciousness to another in Kabbalah or just meditation as they are not one and the same...
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Posted: Saturday July 8th, 2006 21:01 |
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I remember seeing these guys watching a television showing a picture of earth from space. They were chanting pointing at the screen trying to make the hole in the ozone layer go away.
Rather sweet of them I do so hope it worked
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Posted: Saturday July 8th, 2006 21:11 |
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@ DM hey man come and distresss our spirtual reasoning with naysaying....
But on a serious tip you came to mind for real while I was abroad about your attitude to god which I remembered very well. Nah man we got to work on that...Cynic and an African one at that..Takes the biscuit. Repeat after me he who denies the existence of god and the powers at work is a heathen and ignoramus.....Not you though..
Peace...
By the way do you know there are Dogon and other West African mediums whose record of predictions have been scientifically studied revealling their frightening accuracy. In fact some Senegalse mediums committed suicide when they predicted wrong some critical events...Study by Dr Charles Finch...
Whole heap of people can claim they have knowledge and understanding of particular phenomon but like any science or discipline there are always a whole heap of people whose claims outreach their capacities by far.
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Posted: Saturday July 8th, 2006 21:30 |
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FredB wrote: @ DM hey man come and distresss our spirtual reasoning with naysaying....
Sorry, I just remembered that scene and found it funny. All I know of this Kabbalah thing is that Madonna is into it and some other Californians which for me immediately puts my guard up.
But on a serious tip you came to mind for real while I was abroad about your attitude to god which I remembered very well. Nah man we got to work on that... LOL Good luck on that one! Cynic and an African one at that... My African identity and ideaology has nothing to do with mysticism for me. Takes the biscuit. Repeat after me he who denies the existence of god and the powers at work is a heathen and ignoramus.....Not you though..
Peace...
By the way do you know there are Dogon and other West African mediums whose record of predictions have been scientifically studied revealling their frightening accuracy. The probably based such predictions on tangible things and what we would call science. Most mystics did. Then some hid it in religious and spiritual language that only they could interpret.... making them indispensible and worthy for a community. We should put more emphasis on the methods they used to make such predictions and be proud of the knowledge in real practical terms the ancients had as opposed to glorifying the illusions of mysticism they surrounded their science with. Now we have generations of spiritual luddites scared of the methodology that WE gave to the world... The irony is not amusing. In fact some Senegalse mediums committed suicide when they predicted wrong some critical events...Study by Dr Charles Finch... LOL bad predictions with those types in all cultures usually resulted in death. Risky game. These days you'll only face a bit of derision and humiliation in your faliure but back then... woe betide you!
Whole heap of people can claim they have knowledge and understanding of particular phenomon but unlike any science or discipline there are always a whole heap of people whose claims outreach their capacities by far.
Don't think modern scientists are above such failings. Their claims and expectations they surround themselves with to extort money from sponsors and governements are no less exaggerated the the doomsayers and religious soothsaying flatterers of old.
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Posted: Saturday July 8th, 2006 21:34 |
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FredB wrote: &RL a question not a challenge. Is it meditation which includes initiation which is used to move from one level of conciousness to another in Kabbalah or just meditation as they are not one and the same...
FB
To be honest I have no idea. Got a limited knowledge on the topic, only started reading into it a few months ago and its as confusing as anything. The Jewish put it in relation to everything... I'll get to how confusing it is in a bit. lol. Was hoping you'd know a bit about it FB.
If any meditation needs to involve initiation its probably to do with moving through astral planes and achiving enlightenment that way, pretty much tough to do that on your own without a guide and teacher.
By the way do you know there are Dogon and other West African mediums whose record of predictions have been scientifically studied revealling their frightening accuracy.
Read into Credo Mutwa, he predicted the first Iraq war before it happened, also goes into how electrical goods mess up our natural abilities cause they put out electro magnetic waves. Credo was off on a few predictions and said that the reason was down to him having visited the West and Japan.
Of course some Africans know about the Tree of Life story but don't talk about it... I'll go into that as well. Bantu Folklore... well fustrating hearing about it and the Bantu story of the Lord of the Flies but hitting a brick wall when it comes to talking about it with the African breddas. I don't think some people know how those stories are relevant.... really relevant.
Topic moved to Tehutis corner....
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Posted: Saturday July 8th, 2006 21:35 |
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@Well I never. Bravo DM agree with every word you said. Thought I was going to get the cynics choice response. Whole heap of cowboys out there trying to take people for fool.
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Posted: Saturday July 8th, 2006 22:06 |
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Posted: Sunday July 9th, 2006 01:42 |
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RL...I had a view on the question I asked, but only courteousy that I asked first. You see language and the English language often causes far more problems than it resolves. The term meditation is often taken to mean a very narrow practice eg sitting in silent meditation or breathing practies. However, the term or concept of meditation when used in the spirtual literature, particularly that is rooted in Ancient Kemetic influenced schools of thought, such as the Kabbalah, which actually came from the Cannanites who were, if my recollection of Ra Un Nefer Amen were predominantly African who drew from Kemetic pratices.
Accordingly, if we look at the Kemetic concept of meditations, along with other such influenced people such as Dravindian of India and the Toaists of China we will see the concept of meditation is far more complex than breathing excercises and also involves initiations into specific techniques, internalising specific sacred and spirtual texts to uncover their fundamental meanings and the truth entailed. It may also entail changing specific aspects of your diet in order to change or improving the body's function and efficiency in order so it can assist the brain and nervous system and other key aspects of the anatomy to optimise and operate in such a way as to release its capacity or enter trance like states far more easily. Remember the body and mind and spirit are all intrinsically linked. It can even involve learning to meditate to master particular parts of the anatomy.
You mentioned elsewhere Kundalini energy which is one of the most powerful life force energies. Well that energy like the Chinese chi is stored and reproduced in the sexual organs amongst other places and learning to control and direct it can be a fundamental part of what is broadly callled meditation. For example I was talking to a very senior martial arts brother who has studied world wide and China and Japan particular. We were talking about meditation and moving to different levels and he agreed with me you cannot do it by yourself, as it involves a whole heap of complex knowledge that has to be taught at higher levels.
So meditation involves a whole heap.
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Posted: Monday July 10th, 2006 13:38 |
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The most complex form of 'meditation' I've heard of is mediating to astral travel to diffrent realms.
It would be intresting to hear about dieting to aid mediation and master certain parts of the body in that way, it does make sence, complete sence... posted a topic about a young boy who managed to go six months without food or water. I think the Tibetans have really taken it to another level much more so than the Indians and other cultures although they can achive much the same the Tibetans pretty much kick ass when it comes to that stuff. Lord knows what they can do, not as though they tell people.
They say that the 'Buddah boy' was feeding off of particles in the air! Amazing.
Pretty much pissed off that my thread in here was deleted and swapped with this one. I was hoping to come back and add to it bit by bit and was going to go into how the buddahist teachings fit into Kabbalic studies. F'in annoying now its messed up my flow and I've lost the states attached to the branches.
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Posted: Thursday August 24th, 2006 03:29 |
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Kundalini is- well, kundalini. I'll get to that in a moment...
As for your question FredB:
It really all depends on what is meant by the active term 'meditation'. In my own experience 'meditation' may involve a particular kind of experience which explains or communicates something in one way or other-It is difficult to illustrate this by offering any examples or relating personal experience that for someone else would be utterly meaningless. I never like to suggest to anyone how to go about getting things done for themselves, since that is ultimately a question of the establishment of a kind of relationship, one that takes some time to cultivate.
One example I could relate is that, for instance I have a certain relationship with certain kinds of events. That 'relationship' is an expression of some function of the astral body in another plane-That it happens the way it does is not important, at least no more than is, say, walking or talking or blinking one's eyes. This is why we are constantly advised not to regard any phenomena encountered 'along the way' with our emotions or intellect, i.e. ego, and considerale effort is required to avoid that. This would be referred to as a 'break' in meditation.
I won't enter into a discussion about discipline here...
Kundalini. Ah, that 'Old Sleeping Serpent'...
The Ancient One; The Adversary; Satan; The temper; The Beast (7 heads 10 Horns-And we should've figured a long time ago 7 chakras and 10 numbers ); Cthulu; Tiamat; Otiqh; Thoth; Anima Mundi; Libido; Godzilla... call it what you want.
I have my own name for it. But until one has raised and successfully subdued it, I guess you just call it Kundalini.
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Posted: Thursday August 24th, 2006 13:09 |
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What is this Kabbalah sh*t. This is just one of many Judeo-Christian ripoffs from Kemetic spirituality. If you want an indepth reading on where this comes from, then look to Ra Un Nefer Amen's, Tree of Life Meditation System describing the ancient meditation system of Kemet.

Do you see anything suspiciously coincidental in the images here?

Look to Africa, not Whites and Semites, for your spirituality.
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Posted: Thursday August 24th, 2006 14:57 |
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The tree of life is found in African folklore and is inscribed into the walls of the pyramids, its debateable weather the Hebrews brought it to Egypt or Visa Versa, most would have it that the Hebrews brought it to Egypt although this would clash with their story of being enslaved in Egypt. It has been related to the Tarot cards and is used in psycology. The Tarot cards themselves are said to be from the same place, some say they are from Toth himself.
Isn't that there? I forget the meanings but the Bantu have their, ''Ka'' and ''Ba'' which links also.
If I decided to continue with the thread would have got to the part you mentioned as well as the functions of other classical gods and dieties within the same structure, as you know all the gods have their roots in Africa, in the case of the Kabbalah they each have their own emotional value as mentioned above. The hebrews assign their Eloheem to the functions, western angels, where the Egyptian gods are because they are the same.

The Tarot (also egyptian as mentioned) are also applied to it along the paths of those emotional values... might have to blow up the pic to see the cards. They're the golden dawn cards if BB is reading this.
If you can drop some knowledge on the topic it'd be good S.T... to be honest I find myself reading books and understanding them but not having too many people to discuss it with or expand on it with at all which is why I make threads on here and end up forgetting about them.
Maybe this would go better within a discussion of the Metu Neter?
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Posted: Thursday August 24th, 2006 16:18 |
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I think it needful to make a comment here-
Of course we should realize quite plainly that whatever we know as 'kabbalah' has its origin in African and its roots in African based religous systems-This Includes Ifa and Vodun. We know where astrology, the Taro and the whole idea of attributing qualities and conditions to number [If you've studied egyptian Heiroglypic language then you know instinctively that Kammet had to havebeen one the FIRST human civilizations on the planet, since the development of egyptian language and writing jives exactly with both the Judeo Christian, and Islamic account of how man was commanded to name things, and as he named them so they were.
That these facts happen to be lost under the shadow of something else-kabbalah, in this case, is not anyone's fault; I have never read anyone that the Hebrews 'invented' the system on which the kabbalah is based-I have just never heard anyone acknowledge the genuine source of that system.
I would not go so far as to say that the Kabbalah is 'ripped off' of anyone or anything, more than admitting that is obviously a development of ideas which again, we all know the original source of. That does not make kabbalah any less useful or important, and if we are really interested in becoming adept in our own understanding it would behoove us to immerse ourselves in the study of all relative systems-the better an understanding of the original source, and the easier to comprehend it.
Neither God, nor spirituality have a copyright, and it is no fault of the Hebrews for copying, or developing a system comprehensible to them and borrowing from another culture to do it-We all know for instance, that Asian languages evolved from heiroglyphic writing, through demotic and coptic. No the Chinese did'nt rip off Egyptian language; they developed a language they could use.
We ought to be thankful that the Hebrews learned something enough from us that we have a point of reference to begin with.
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Posted: Friday August 25th, 2006 11:58 |
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Now I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact that those same people don't recognise where they got their systems from and should. Instead thay do the opposite and out of envy hate the very people that gave them their knowledge in the first place holding us back and lying to our children.
Wheres the respect? 
Can see where you're coming from Mr Hrunopi but to be honest S.T was, 'right', just that at the time of making this thread I hadn't read the Metu Neter, I've known about the gods of the sethriots for a while now but from a diffrent perspective. Ie; A hebrew perspective, all the while knowing where it came from but left without the info about it.
The Voodoo Veves are intresting; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veve
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Posted: Friday August 25th, 2006 14:06 |
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AHA! You see RL THAT is where spiritual understanding begins-
It is not their responsibility to acknowledge the source of anything. That may be a very bitte rpill to swallow but that pill is the panacea to the dis-ease we Black People suffer from MOST of all.
It is called LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.
I had to learn and accept and eventually teach a long time ago that the 'gods' serve those who serve them-And they have done just that; Europeans, Hispanics, Jews, Wiccans, New Age crackpots and even Nazis. It is not the fault of any of these folks that WE would rather sit in a pew than under the poteau mitan http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/v/vodoun_also_voodoo.html
Our culture is so blkessed and enriched with spiritual, cosmic God Understanding that it is frightfully overwhelming to realize how much influence it has had in history, in human evolution itself. To think that you still have Black folk crediting Asians and Whites with the creation of the first COMPUTER! THEY DO NOT EVEN THINK OF THE GREAT PYRAMID!
THAT is a damned shame.
The other tragedy is our own bias against ourselves. We don't want to know Voodoo because we still believe that Voodoo is Black Magick because Christianity tells us so. And if you STUDY STUDY STUDY and READ YOUR BIBLE sooner or later it will become very obvious to you that whomever 'Jesus Christ' was [if he was at all] HE MUST'VE BEEN A MAGICIAN!AND THE NEW TESTAMENT EVEN SAYS SO!
Falling of fish = fortean pheomena
disappearing into crowds and eluding Roman POLICE = invisbility
raising the dead = necromancy i.e. evoking spirits
exocism = casting the legion into swine
And the list goes on and on and on. What do really think the 'Sermon on the Mount' was all about? He was TEACHING the OBEAH AND THE WANGA! Just like the Student Monk declared that the martial arts belonged to the people and was kicked out [ Yes that movie 'Master Killer' is based on TRUTH].
We sit on our asses and wait for a white 'messiah' and in the meantime we pay no attention to all the messengers we've had- Marcus, Martin. Malcolm, Mohandas, Mandela-They are born, they teach we listen and then they die or are assasinated and when the dust clears we still fail to take responsibility for ourselves.
That is whole point of spiritual understanding and knowledge...Being responsible for your own existence, and evolution.
So whitey is on the moon and we are in the ghetto.
Tomorrow he'll be on Mars and we'll still be in the ghetto- And speaking of that-
PEOPLE YOU BETTER WAKE UP AND REALIZE!THERE'S SOMETHING UP THERE AND IF WE DON'T GET EDUCATED WE ARE GOING TO MISS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF THE PUZZLE THAT EXPLAINS WHO WE ARE AND WHY WE ARE THE FIRST ON THIS PLANET EARTH!
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Posted: Saturday August 26th, 2006 18:56 |
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AHA! You see RL THAT is where spiritual understanding begins-
It is not their responsibility to acknowledge the source of anything. That may be a very bitte rpill to swallow but that pill is the panacea to the dis-ease we Black People suffer from MOST of all.
It is called LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.
I think its deeper than that, I think its a lack of self confidence, lack of self worth in many cases. Theres nothing stopping people from going to a book store and reaading up on egypt, the statues of the pharoes make it obvious who they were but some people still have that disbelief or have been hit with christian morals and can't see past that... Especially as its made out as though Egypt is bad and was the beginning of a move from multi god faiths and traditions to the belief in a singular god with angels replacing the many forms of god as gods that were there before. Monotheism. Check out the Metu Neter.
poteau mitan
Whats a Poteau Mitan?
The other tragedy is our own bias against ourselves. We don't want to know Voodoo because we still believe that Voodoo is Black Magick because Christianity tells us so.
Exactly, and that is a deep ingrain. Being indoctrinated with that type of thinking at a young age puts blinkers on peoples eyes that are tough to remove. Put an African jesus in front of an African christian and it'll confilit within them because they can't see themselves as anything more than what they're told. Its sad.
And if you STUDY STUDY STUDY and READ YOUR BIBLE sooner or later it will become very obvious to you that whomever 'Jesus Christ' was [if he was at all] HE MUST'VE BEEN A MAGICIAN!AND THE NEW TESTAMENT EVEN SAYS SO!
Falling of fish = fortean pheomena
disappearing into crowds and eluding Roman POLICE = invisbility
raising the dead = necromancy i.e. evoking spirits
exocism = casting the legion into swine
I think Jesus's message was that he was a man, to me that means any man could do what he was, 'magician' dosen't really fit for me but yeah I agree... What do you think of Isis, Osiris and Horus?
We sit on our asses and wait for a white 'messiah' and in the meantime we pay no attention to all the messengers we've had- Marcus, Martin. Malcolm, Mohandas, Mandela-They are born, they teach we listen and then they die or are assasinated and when the dust clears we still fail to take responsibility for ourselves.
Yeah, too many think we're free already cause they've got money and choose ignore the fact that our continent is under attack to comfort themselves in luxury stress free.
PEOPLE YOU BETTER WAKE UP AND REALIZE!THERE'S SOMETHING UP THERE AND IF WE DON'T GET EDUCATED WE ARE GOING TO MISS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF THE PUZZLE THAT EXPLAINS WHO WE ARE AND WHY WE ARE THE FIRST ON THIS PLANET EARTH!
Do you think theres something, ''up there'' or, 'in' you? The self as part of the all kinda thing...
Theres an intresting part of the Metu Neter;
The Words of Nebertcher (lord of the world) which he spoke after coming into being; I am he who came into being in the form of the 'infinite power of manisfestation (khepera).' I became the creator of what come into being. After me coming into being, many were the things that came into being, coming forth from my mouth {words of power}. not exsisted heaven (the monumental division of the objective realm). Not exsisted earth, and had been created the things of earth, and creeping things in that place. I raised them out of Nu, from the state of inactivity (of energy). Not found I a place to stand wherein. I radiated words of power with my will, I laid a foundation in the law (Maau), and I made all attributes. I was alone, for not had I spit out the form of Shu (the thermal, yang priciple of the world), not had I emitted Tefnut (the moisture, hydrogenoid, yin principle of the world), not exsisted another who worked with me. I made foundation by means of my will, and there came into being the multitude of things... I became God one, Gods three, that is from out of myself...
God and how he created other parts of himself after self realization, dividing himself into parts which then multiply to create many factors of the same being.

^ Embryo
Which goes on through stages of multiplying from the active Sperm (consiouss) to the dormant egg to create life. Last edited on Saturday August 26th, 2006 20:03 by Apedemak
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Posted: Friday September 1st, 2006 06:18 |
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Very interesting photo there RL...
Do you not see something strangely familiar about it?
I realize you asked me to share some experience(s) - which is still difficult to do from an individual stance. But I will point out something VERY significant for you that was discussed in the UFO forum, recalling the suggestion that
(a) most of these 'craft' are not visible to the human eye
(b) that they may in fact be living organisms
As far as the second allusion (b) , I found that out personally at the age of 7, and researching the topic - along with some other other kinds of 'research', as I mentioned is where I hit a stalemate in 'knowing' once and for all what the answer to the 'alien question' was; It was not that particular answer that perplexed me more than the diverse variables of the question itself-
At which point I stopped compiling all of the research I had been doing since 1986 and kept in a large binder-
I made an acetate book:
The first image was that of the human form, and beneath it were layered transparancies, the sephiroth, elements, planets, chakrahs, poteau mitan, etc...
I did this also for the human brain, having come across a diagram which illustrated which physiological functions corresponded to various sectors of the brain.
It was in this study that the 'Image and likeness of God' becaome clear-That image and likeness being IN man himself-But which did not at that point include the material world or the rest of the universe.
And then I ame across another photo- taken by the Hubble telescope.
Then I understood that what we think of as 'the vacuum of space'-Is what the Bible refers to as 'the Waters'. And further than that...
Attachment: V838 Monocerotis (V838 Mon).JPG (Downloaded 124 times) Last edited on Friday September 1st, 2006 06:22 by Hrunopi
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Posted: Friday September 1st, 2006 12:55 |
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Cool....
I'd need to know more about embryos but I definately see where you're coming from... I was into sex as the creation but didn't think of it in a universal aspect as you mentioned. My inital thought was of the planet earth being of water - Egg which is then seeded by consioussness - Sperm to create life on many diffrent levels, each extremely complex but functioning as one organism... all created with love... by love.
Your pointing out that certain UFOs look like cells themselves is amazing, when you mentioned it I could see it straight away. The cigar shapes, the circular disks. Cells flying a greater organism - the universe, each solar/star system serving a function.

People seem to think of this as the solar system but its not....

Excuse the picture but its like that.... the planets functioning around a central nucleus just in a cell...

Which is why the Egyptians were facinated by the lotus flower... the pattern is the same geometrical shape, the petals being the patterned orbits of the planets around a central nucleus... the sun.

But in three dimensions.
I'll send you a PM about what I've seen and how it relates to your theory. Last edited on Friday September 1st, 2006 12:56 by Apedemak
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