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Posted: Thursday July 6th, 2006 16:08 |
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by Ra Un Neter Amen
On the Kamitic "Tree of Life" there are 11 Branches as opposed to 10 in the Kabbalah or Hebrew version:
1. Sphere 0 - Amen/Proof of GOD's existence--"PEACE"
2. Sphere 1-Ausar/Law of Oneness--"ATONEMENT"
3. Sphere 2-Tehuti/Law of Knowledge--"VALUE" & 'JUDGMENT"
4. Sphere 3-Sekher/Man's Emotions Manifest into WORD OF GOD--"SPIRITUL POWER"
5. Sphere 4 - Maat/Law--"UNIVERSAL ORDER"
6. Sphere 5-Herukhuti/GOD neither punishes nor rewards--'SELF CONTROL"
7. Sphere 6-Heru/Power to Ignore GOD's Laws not right--"Free Will"
8. Sphere 7-Het-Heru/Visualization-Imagination--"HUMAN or DIVINE BEING"
9. Sphere 8-Sebek/Verbal Thinking--"WHO IS THINKING, WHO IS AFFIRMING"
10. Sphere 9-Auset/Man's Learning Facility-- "SELF SACRIFICE TO GOD"
11. Sphere 10-Geb/Physical Realm--"YOU WILL RETURN FROM WHENCE YOU CAME: HEAVEN"
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Posted: Tuesday September 12th, 2006 16:23 |
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| There are 11 in the Hebrew Kabbalah...
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Posted: Tuesday September 12th, 2006 16:40 |
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Posted: Thursday September 14th, 2006 16:58 |
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.lol.
Was just saying. 
I'd like for a indepth discussion of the Metu Neter. Why isn't anyone digging deep and really going at it?... Also why is it such a logical set of books considering Ra Un Neter Amen states that we are right sided thinkers?
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Posted: Thursday September 21st, 2006 16:17 |
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Rebel-Lion wrote: There are 11 in the Hebrew Kabbalah...
I think I briefly mentioned why that is in another thread...we know where the Hebrews got everything of wisdom from.
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Posted: Thursday September 21st, 2006 16:25 |
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Rebel-Lion wrote: .lol.
Was just saying.
I'd like for a indepth discussion of the Metu Neter. Why isn't anyone digging deep and really going at it?... Also why is it such a logical set of books considering Ra Un Neter Amen states that we are right sided thinkers?
To be honest, I think the Metu Neter is ok, perhaps for beginners, but I really didn't like how he described many many concepts. He often used terminology for Kemetic spirituality that was indicative of the racist and (European) ethnocentric Egyptologists. Besides all this, he is not the most lucid writer.
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Posted: Thursday September 21st, 2006 18:54 |
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To be honest, I think the Metu Neter is ok, perhaps for beginners
Yeesh... for beginners??
Have you managed to lower your breath rate down to a certain amount per minute yet? I seriously doubt anyone on here has even touched the iceberg on what the Tree of life is about and can do/is used for.
The surrender of Free will and other such things...
To be honest I haven't really got into the books at all, damn A.A.S seem slow.
He often used terminology for Kemetic spirituality that was indicative of the racist and (European) ethnocentric Egyptologists.
Plz detail!
Guessing you're into Physics and all things surrounding... what qualifies you to call them books for beginners? The author is of a high order.
Unless I'm missing satire...
They are definately lacking in lucidity. .lol. Is it deliberate? Promote left sided thinking amongst your own whilst engaging the already over active side of your enemy? Its off Keter thats for sure...
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Posted: Thursday September 21st, 2006 19:27 |
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Rebel-Lion wrote: To be honest, I think the Metu Neter is ok, perhaps for beginners
Yeesh... for beginners??
Have you managed to lower your breath rate down to a certain amount per minute yet? I seriously doubt anyone on here has even touched the iceberg on what the Tree of life is about and can do/is used for.
The surrender of Free will and other such things...
To be honest I haven't really got into the books at all, damn A.A.S seem slow.
By "beginners", I meant for someone just wanting some understanding of the Tree of Life. I didn't mean a beginner so much in its practices. Sorry for the confusion.
Oh yeah, I can slow heart rate significantly. I have a resting heart rate of 51 beats per minute, but can slow it down well into the 20's. I am a blackbelt in the Ninjitsu martial art (was adopted by an old Japanese family), and meditation was a key component. Perhaps through my already ascertained discipline it was easier for me to hone my meditation even further for spiritual purposes discussed in the Metu Neter.
Rebel-Lion wrote: He often used terminology for Kemetic spirituality that was indicative of the racist and (European) ethnocentric Egyptologists.
Plz detail!
One example is how he calls Tehuti (Thoth) a "god", and so some of his discussion on the role of Tehuti doesn't fit clearly into a Kemetic spiritual context in my opinion. If you read actual Kemetic papyri, it is obvious that you would not translate "ntr" as "god" or "ntrw" as "gods". He makes some things sound as if gods are sort of in cooperation with each other, but the neterw are all "divine aspects of the One Supreme Being (God)". He sometimes lacks the Kemetic emphasis of harmony in the universe, harmony between opposing forces (extensively written of in the Doctrine of Opposites) and duality, in describing the functions of the neterw. The work is not bad, but I simply do not agree with how some of the material is written in regards to a more accurate work.
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Posted: Friday September 22nd, 2006 13:08 |
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Oh yeah, I can slow heart rate significantly. I have a resting heart rate of 51 beats per minute, but can slow it down well into the 20's.
So you can leave your body...
You should practice real time Astral Travel if you can do that, would be good for sneaking into places you shouldn't and stealing secrets for your work.
I can drop my breathing rate to just a few per minute and meditate in that state, haven't checked my heart rate though. Pretty much deep into spirituality anyway, a bit too much at times.
You're a classified lethal weapon, cool. Do you have to register yourself or something?
Can see what you're saying about his accuracy, can't get everything right I guess. Its the spiritual teachings hes' trying to bring across more than anything. Would be tough to find a good Kemetic understanding of the Tree of Life. His are the only books I've read that explain it from our own perspective.
The Jews are up to all sorts with it.
Sorry for the confusion.
Thats ok... it happens to the best of us
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Posted: Friday September 22nd, 2006 13:16 |
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Rebel-Lion wrote: So you can leave your body...
It feels like it sometimes, but I haven't tried very hard.
Rebel-Lion wrote:I can drop my breathing rate to just a few per minute and meditate in that state, haven't checked my heart rate though. Pretty much deep into spirituality anyway, a bit too much at times.
You can never be too spiritual in my opinion. Our classical civilizations began to decline as soon as we started politicizing our spirituality, or in other words "got religion".
Rebel-Lion wrote:You're a classified lethal weapon, cool. Do you have to register yourself or something?
When I lived in the states Ohio and Pennsylvania, I was told I had to. I did in Ohio, but I didn't Pennsylvania or where I am now in Florida. I was very young so my mother made me register in Ohio, but I simply don't feel that I should have to register myself. If you don't know whether someone is carrying a concealed weapon, why should I have to register that I have ascertained certain skills, albeit lethal? Basically, I refuse to register myself unless forced with a stiff fine or jail time.
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Posted: Friday September 22nd, 2006 14:20 |
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---Edditt---
You can never be too spiritual in my opinion. Our classical civilizations began to decline as soon as we started politicizing our spirituality, or in other words "got religion".
Agree.
Can have your head in the clouds a bit too much though, good to stay grounded. Always respect the Tribal peoples of Africa, they're enlightened peoples in my opinion.
---Edditt---
Check out his other book, this one is in practice the other is in theory. He mentions that the eastern philosophy is confusing, took that as an admission of defeat. Caught out by the right sided thinking.
When I lived in the states Ohio and Pennsylvania, I was told I had to. I did in Ohio, but I didn't Pennsylvania or where I am now in Florida. I was very young so my mother made me register in Ohio, but I simply don't feel that I should have to register myself. If you don't know whether someone is carrying a concealed weapon, why should I have to register that I have ascertained certain skills, albeit lethal?
I wouldn't personally. If you get in a fight and hurt someone it goes against you dosen't it? They'd say you shouldn't have used such force being trained and what not.
Best kept secret in my opinion. I'd be terrible if I was trained, lame that we can't protect ourselves in the UK. Last edited on Saturday September 23rd, 2006 02:01 by Apedemak
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Posted: Friday September 22nd, 2006 18:10 |
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Rebel-Lion wrote:I wouldn't personally. If you get in a fight and hurt someone it goes against you dosen't it? They'd say you shouldn't have used such force being trained and what not.
Best kept secret in my opinion. I'd be terrible if I was trained, lame that we can't protect ourselves in the UK.
Indeed, I would probably be in major trouble if they found out. Either way, I look at it like carrying a concealed weapon, I would never use it unless it was life or death.
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Posted: Saturday September 23rd, 2006 02:32 |
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Tough to tell a criminals intent nowadays.
Should definitely teach martial art in schools.Last edited on Saturday September 23rd, 2006 04:47 by Apedemak
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Posted: Sunday September 24th, 2006 12:35 |
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Can anybody say they have lived to these standards as a perfectly good philosophy for life?
THE 42 DECLARATIONS OF PURITY- I have not killed, nor bid anyone kill.
- I have not committed adultery or rape.
- I have not avenged myself nor burned with rage.
- I have not caused terror.
- I have not assaulted anyone nor caused anyone pain.
- I have not caused misery.
- I have not done any harm to man or to animals.
- I have not caused the shedding of tears.
- I have not wronged the people nor bear them any evil intent.
- I have not stolen nor taken that which does not belong to me.
- I have not taken more than my fair share of food.
- I have not damaged the crops, the fields, or the trees.
- I have not deprived anyone of what is rightfully theirs.
- I have not beared false witness, nor supported false allegations.
- I have not lied, nor spoken falsely to the hurt of another.
- I have not used fiery words nor stirred up any strife.
- I have not spoken nor acted deceitfully to the hurt of another.
- I have not spoken scornfully against others.
- I have not eavesdropped.
- I have not ignored the truth or words of righteousness.
- I have not judged anyone hastily or harshly.
- I have not disrespected sacred places.
- I have caused no wrong to be done to any workers or prisoners.
- I have not been angry without good reason.
- I have not hindered the flow of running water.
- I have not wasted the running water.
- I have not polluted the water or the land.
- I have not taken God's name in vain.
- I have not despised nor anger the Gods.
- I have not stolen from God.
- I have not given excessive offerings nor less than what is due.
- I have not coveted thy neighbor's goods.
- I have not stolen from nor disrespect the dead.
- I have remembered and observed the appointed holy days.
- I have not held back the offerings due to the Gods.
- I have not interfered with sacred rites.
- I have not slaughtered with evil intent any sacred animals.
- I have not acted with guile or insolence.
- I have not been unduly proud nor acted with arrogance.
- I have not magnified my condition beyond what is appropriate.
- I have done no less than my daily obligations require.
- I have obeyed the law and committed no treason.
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Posted: Friday October 6th, 2006 16:06 |
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I would have to answer no, not as well as our former ancestors the "Kamau" knew!
Due largely in part by the diluted information contained in the white man's version of the biblical text.
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Posted: Sunday October 8th, 2006 10:35 |
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Neither can I.
You've started a thread that clearly shows a philosophy of living given by all of our forebearers/foremother.
 ish, more like....off forum-ish.
When it comes to life and the universe, no bible, pentatauch or qur'an can compete to explain it all, which is why they have bolt on doctrines and hadifs to try and sure up the one book to rule them all.
Put the 11 laws and 42 declaration of Ma'at against the 10 commandments of biblcal and quranic tomfoolery which was most likely borrowed from Ma'at.
Out of the 2, which version should people strive for the most?
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Posted: Monday October 30th, 2006 16:19 |
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Neither can I.
You've started a thread that clearly shows a philosophy of living given by all of our forebearers/foremother.
ish, more like....off forum-ish.
When it comes to life and the universe, no bible, pentatauch or qur'an can compete to explain it all, which is why they have bolt on doctrines and hadifs to try and sure up the one book to rule them all.
Put the 11 laws and 42 declaration of Ma'at against the 10 commandments of biblcal and quranic tomfoolery which was most likely borrowed from Ma'at.
Out of the 2, which version should people strive for the most?
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The former.
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Posted: Monday October 30th, 2006 17:49 |
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Greetings people.
I am in the UK and am at the moment reading "Glorious light meditation" by Dr. Muata Ashby.
I have been looking for the Metu Neter volume one (I have vol 2 but do not want to read it until I have read one). Does anybody know of a place that will definitely have it. I have been told not even the Ausar Auset society has it.
I am only a beginner and seek some guidance from those who have more knowledge of this spiritual system. I would be very greatful if I could get some advice.
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Posted: Monday October 30th, 2006 19:25 |
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@ Ras Ruben
You may purchase Vol 1 @ Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/Metu-Neter-Vol-Spiritual-Cultivation/dp/1877662038/sr=8-1/qid=1162239899/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-2622390-7200901?ie=UTF8&s=books
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Posted: Monday October 30th, 2006 19:25 |
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@ Ras Ruben
You may purchase Vol 1 @ Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/Metu-Neter-Vol-Spiritual-Cultivation/dp/1877662038/sr=8-1/qid=1162239899/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-2622390-7200901?ie=UTF8&s=books
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Posted: Monday October 30th, 2006 19:30 |
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Thanks but I cannot buy it online, especially at those prices. I know full well that if I purchase it in a shop it would be cheaper and I am a student who needs to save the pounds. I purchased number to for only £15, to buy online would cost me more than £25 pounds including delivery. I know it sounds cheap but that is money I cannot afford to spend.
If you know of any shops I could "physically" go to then I would much prefer that. If I cannot get it within a week I will just buy it online and bite my tongue.
Thank you very much for the reply Fine 1952.
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Posted: Wednesday November 1st, 2006 10:25 |
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| Try the large bookstores like Waterstones/Borders in the Uk to order ANY book, it will take upto 10 days, when they have it they will give you a courtesy call/card to pick it up.
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Posted: Thursday November 2nd, 2006 16:26 |
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| Yes, Jay-Jay's response may be more helpful...
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