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Posted: Thursday April 6th, 2006 20:29 |
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| I guess part of the reason I am even here on this UK site is to connect with Africans other than in the United States. Given we all seem to be experiencing similar mental conditioning in the Diaspora and the continent, our global progress seems to be rather stagnant for the same reasons. Do Africans collectively in the world need to establish a common philosophy to become world leaders again?
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Posted: Sunday April 9th, 2006 17:21 |
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Thoth B3 wrote: I guess part of the reason I am even here on this UK site is to connect with Africans other than in the United States. Given we all seem to be experiencing similar mental conditioning in the Diaspora and the continent, our global progress seems to be rather stagnant for the same reasons. Do Africans collectively in the world need to establish a common philosophy to become world leaders again?
Nope. It's about the needs and wants of the people. A philosophy might change that, but convincing 1 billion people would prove impossible, especially against forces that would be in opposition to that goal.
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Posted: Monday April 10th, 2006 12:51 |
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| Contrarily, i disagree... i think a common philosophy is necessary for the to be a global progress amongst african people. For presently, it seems as though there is no general unification between people of different african origins, everyone seems to have their own individual self concept...However, if we were to have a general a philosophy, it would be much easier to excel...
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Posted: Monday April 10th, 2006 14:49 |
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| I think a common philosophy is needed as well. The reason Europeans were able to exploit Africa as a group is because exploitation was their common ideology...even with all of their differences. To this day they are at each others throats until it comes to exploiting the African.
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Posted: Monday April 10th, 2006 15:14 |
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| That is very true, but what common philosophy could we aspire to achieve... because at the moment, it seems africans, especially in the west, only common philosophy is to get rich quick and the majority of us are we willing to sell ourselves and each other in order to do so.
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Posted: Monday April 10th, 2006 16:15 |
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Influential wrote: That is very true, but what common philosophy could we aspire to achieve... because at the moment, it seems africans, especially in the west, only common philosophy is to get rich quick and the majority of us are we willing to sell ourselves and each other in order to do so.
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Whatever it is, it cannot be based off of current Western Capitalism and materialism that is currently destroying African communities. Whites love to see it because as long as Blacks are exploiting each other to get ahead, they can never rise together to remove the White man as their controller.
Another thing, our common philosophy has to be non-religious. All that would do is create yet another march or demonstration to sing "We Shall Overcome", nothing constructive would change, and the world would continue to wonder what the African is good for.
I would like to see Africans globally with the initiative to become near independent in technology, engineering, agriculture, and currency. A new political philosophy/ideology could be to make an economy totally independent of foreign currency, technology, and so forth. I know I am dreaming a bit here, but I would love to see African currency called the Kem compared against the Euro and the U.S. Dollar.
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Posted: Monday April 10th, 2006 16:20 |
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| As long as that global philosphy for progress has nothing to do with competing with the enemy then I agree there needs to be one even if competing with the enmeny is a means to achieving that end game - we already do it to ourselves we just need to rid ourselves from our village mentalities. Last edited on Monday April 10th, 2006 16:22 by Incognito
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Posted: Monday April 10th, 2006 21:36 |
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The global philisophy would possibly be investing in your countries and creating schools jobs for your children. This would alsso mean africans creating their own brands and makes, with little reliance on foreign powers. Because that is the thing that is f**king up africa in the first place,when european powers give africans something there is always a condition attached. But i am in no way in favour of european capitalism beacuse it truly exploits the poor and the weak and has absolutely no morality.
Philosophically speaking can all africans have a common philosophy which they could all unite under? To me it is highly unlikely, but i dont think that you have to have the same common ideology to achieve something. Europeans have to common philosophies, 1. We are all white (and christian or at least we celebrate christmas) and 2. Let us not attack each other we will attack other weak nations. Even Winston Churchill admitted that democracy was not the best political system and Plato said that democracy is the rule of the stupid by the stupid
To introduce a compeltely new philosophy for all africans regardless of their country, language, religion......................... and to try to fit all under one box would prove difficlut in the first place.
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Posted: Monday April 10th, 2006 21:41 |
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i think we could of achieved a revolution through rap music...but as usual...the white man destroys this opportunity by promoting rubbish like 50 cent and slim shady!
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Posted: Tuesday April 11th, 2006 07:43 |
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Another thing, our common philosophy has to be non-religious. All that would do is create yet another march or demonstration to sing "We Shall Overcome", nothing constructive would change, and the world would continue to wonder what the African is good for.
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Contrarily, i think a religious philosophy for africa would be positive and constructive in some respects, because as to date, we africans have been told that we didnt know about the gospel (which isnt true) and that white man taught us about Jesus, and taught us about God and how we should lead our lives. What if they were a religion under which we africans could strive and it was exclusive to us, our very own, and then made universal. For even the Jews were once slaves, though nowadays everyone seems to forget that because of their success in this world.
However, irrespective of the philosophy being religious or non religious it would need to instill morals and unity amongst the majority of africans.
Also, i agree with the thought of their being a single african currency, i myself have had this thought for a while....
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Posted: Tuesday April 11th, 2006 07:50 |
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BIG L wrote: i think we could of achieved a revolution through rap music...but as usual...the white man destroys this opportunity by promoting rubbish like 50 cent and slim shady!
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A revolution through rap music would be virtually impossible, the whole world already regards us just musicians, singers or sportsmen, it needs to be a completely new field and aspect. Also, the white man doesnt promote rubbish like 50 cent and slim, we do by buying their cds etc. I'm not doubting 50 as a rapper but a revolutionary character...eh eh nah not likely...lol.
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Posted: Wednesday April 12th, 2006 02:06 |
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I think a whole load of ideas are already about and being constantly revised, the problem is implimenting these ideas. Anything too dogmatic runs the risk of being constrictive, and anything too timid runs the risk of being a distorted free for all. Metanarratives in a postmodern world are a challenge.
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Posted: Friday April 14th, 2006 18:13 |
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think we could of achieved a revolution through rap music...but as usual...the white man destroys this opportunity by promoting rubbish like 50 cent and slim shady!
I agree, our music is still labelled a ''threat'' to the establishment which is why 50 and senceless rappers are promoted over others. Problem is that we fall for it constantly, if we had a common thinking we'd know whats going on and tune into a bit of KRS One instead but the politrickery has made it out as though we aren't oppressed in such a way and left it to us to worry about. Heard a chat by a UK rapper named Roots Manover,
''He makes sounds for the heathens them - those that don't feel it, well they're with the problem''
As in our artists are now pandering to European markets and not our own.
We need something to protect our diversity in my opinion. Prehaps a re-education program where people are encouraged to find themselves rather than accept others opinions on what we should be. Based totally on fact. There are many stories about African history that I would like to check out, things like Ancient India and the Olmecs.
Knowledge of self to then recognise others.
Metanarratives in a postmodern world are a challenge.
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Posted: Friday May 26th, 2006 18:43 |
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Come on man, this place is slow.
*Mumbles something about getting rid of the spirituality forum and putting it all in here*
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Posted: Tuesday May 30th, 2006 01:18 |
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| Yes, but only in a general sense. We must all be committed to Afrikan brotherhood regardless of nationality. Other than that, I say keep our individual cultures.
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Posted: Sunday June 4th, 2006 22:10 |
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| Do Africans collectively in the world need to establish a common philosophy to become world leaders again? |
In general I would say yes. I'm not sure philosophy is the right word but there needs to be some commonality of world view and direction in order for our strategies and tactics to not work at cross purposes.
Call me paranoid but I think this is why European culture is always promoting competition. Everybody is supposed to be trying to beat everybody else. It is designed to keep the White lower classes down also. You can't have the peons cooperating with each other against the status quo.
Promoting that common world view is largely why I wrote this:
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Philosophies tend to be a matter of opinion and difficult to agree upon. Cold hard facts and cold hard math are a different story.
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