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Posted: Wednesday January 24th, 2007 22:38 |
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Posted: Friday January 26th, 2007 17:06 |
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Having no children of my own, I can;t really answer the question. But I woud hope my nephews grow up with better emotional stability than my sisters and I as (in my opinion) this is one of the keys to happiness. To paraphrase Socrates, you can never be TRULY happy unless you are happy within yourself. Life, and its opportunities, are what you make it and it seems to go without saying that happy people make better use of opportunities available to them.
 i really object to the use of the term "seed" and wish it was not a part of the topic title.
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Posted: Saturday January 27th, 2007 01:42 |
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Madam Butterfly wrote: Having no children of my own, I can;t really answer the question. But I woud hope my nephews grow up with better emotional stability than my sisters and I as (in my opinion) this is one of the keys to happiness. To paraphrase Socrates, you can never be TRULY happy unless you are happy within yourself. Life, and its opportunities, are what you make it and it seems to go without saying that happy people make better use of opportunities available to them.
i really object to the use of the term "seed" and wish it was not a part of the topic title.
Why do you object to the term seed?
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Posted: Saturday January 27th, 2007 01:43 |
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Madam Butterfly wrote: Having no children of my own, I can;t really answer the question. But I woud hope my nephews grow up with better emotional stability than my sisters and I as (in my opinion) this is one of the keys to happiness. To paraphrase Socrates, you can never be TRULY happy unless you are happy within yourself. Life, and its opportunities, are what you make it and it seems to go without saying that happy people make better use of opportunities available to them.
i really object to the use of the term "seed" and wish it was not a part of the topic title.
Why do you object to the term seed?
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Posted: Saturday January 27th, 2007 13:17 |
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Yes. We are better off in some narrow areas than our parents eg access to cheaper higher education and money and material. I have one son and would like two children more or three if the truth be known. But I can say he does not have much excuse to mess up his life as I in particular has made sure of that with his mother.
He is far more previleged than most African children in this country and born basically into a radical dynasty both in Britain but also a deep Caribbean one of my father and grandfather's people. He has two god fathers who are vetrands of our black power movement in this country and one of whom is my number two in security and a vetrand of all kinds of serious sh*t. The other is a business genius and serious money man.
That was to make sure he is protected after I die. Same way I am the godfather to some of our most senior and tested brothers children for the same reason. Children or adults need quality guidance throughout their lives in tackling or the tricky and nasty problems which can arise whether it is women who think they are smart or others who want to do them harm.
Me and my close crew also have made arrangements for our kids to know each other very well and are close eg sleep overs, go to the same supplmentary schools or after school projects etc so they have a source of good quality partners eg wives/husbands when they are older and don't have to go through too much sh*t in order to have a quality partner in life and not waste their time, money and emotions chasing rubbish.
After that they are by themselves. But I have given strict instructions if they f**k about and do not meet expectations they will be cut off clean. Same way with my father and his people who are the backbone of all I need in terms of business or political or other contacts. But if I or my sibblings are idiots that door shuts quickly.
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Posted: Monday January 29th, 2007 16:33 |
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Better off...
Don't know...
Been used before...
Will they have a foundation to build and grow from that would require a more thoughtful approach.
The home maybe stable but the society is not practicing this stability.
Education cost keeps rising and wages are stagnant. Benefits are decreasing.
Life resources such as extended family and community are dying.
Food and water are becoming more contaminated with our traditions with technology and consumerism, leaving nothing virgin or fertile for the future generation to feed off of and use.
If they can overcome that then it was due to the foundation not necessarily being better off.
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Posted: Tuesday February 13th, 2007 15:39 |
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Bacoo wrote: Why do you object to the term seed?
because a child is so much more than a "seed". You may refer to your own sperm cell as a "seed" as much as you want, but a child is just that, a child. Just seems a very derogotory term to me.
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Posted: Tuesday February 13th, 2007 17:50 |
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Bacoo,
No. Although they may be materialistcially better off than we were, this generation is born with no peace in their lives. I remembered when I was growing up in the 70's, we didn't have to worry about drive by shootings, Columbine style killings, sporadic drugs and so on. I used to remembered sitting on my grandmother's porch until 12 in the morning and nobody would come and attack us. We didn't have to close our doors! I don't have kids, but I observe my 3 little nephews and what they do. Some of the things they have to deal with school, we didn't have to in my generation( eg cops in the school, metal detectors , people being thrown out of the school without being heard). I told my neighbor that if I had to go to school today, I'll skip because it has gotten so erractic.
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Posted: Tuesday February 13th, 2007 20:20 |
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Bacoo wrote: Will they have more options, a 2 parent loving stable home, superior educational opportunities, access to life resources.
Hey Bacoo,
You know right now I'm at the stage where I am trying to make sure things will be better for my children. So far I've been able to bag them an excellent father who gives them all the love and support they need. They even have the bonus of a human climbing frame as and when they see fit LOL  . The house was stable until I saw one and two cracks in the ceiling 
As far as education goes, I would always encourage them to achieve as best they can but not to work towards working for someone else! We're building business so they can see, as they grow, how it works and how to make the most of all their talents and abilities. I don't want them to be misguided into thinking that working for someone else is all they are studying for. If hubby and I get things right now then they shouldn't have to worry too much financially in future.
They will have as many options as we can help them identify, but I've yet to come across the part where we as parents have to let them go and trust that they will survive and make wise choices in the big world...that does scare me a little.
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Posted: Wednesday February 14th, 2007 01:18 |
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CeeCee wrote: Bacoo,
No. Although they may be materialistcially better off than we were, this generation is born with no peace in their lives. I remembered when I was growing up in the 70's, we didn't have to worry about drive by shootings, What!?  Where were you living!!!???
Columbine style killings, sporadic drugs and so on. I used to remembered sitting on my grandmother's porch until 12 in the morning and nobody would come and attack us. We didn't have to close our doors! I don't have kids, but I observe my 3 little nephews and what they do. Some of the things they have to deal with school, we didn't have to in my generation( eg cops in the school, metal detectors , people being thrown out of the school without being heard). I told my neighbor that if I had to go to school today, I'll skip because it has gotten so erractic.
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Posted: Wednesday February 14th, 2007 01:34 |
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Madam Butterfly wrote: Bacoo wrote: Why do you object to the term seed?
because a child is so much more than a "seed". You may refer to your own sperm cell as a "seed" as much as you want, but a child is just that, a child. Just seems a very derogotory term to me.
I dont agree but thats how you feel. I learn something new everyday, thanks 4 sharing!!!
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Posted: Wednesday February 14th, 2007 01:35 |
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Maat wrote: Bacoo wrote: Will they have more options, a 2 parent loving stable home, superior educational opportunities, access to life resources.
Hey Bacoo,
You know right now I'm at the stage where I am trying to make sure things will be better for my children. So far I've been able to bag them an excellent father who gives them all the love and support they need. They even have the bonus of a human climbing frame as and when they see fit LOL . The house was stable until I saw one and two cracks in the ceiling
As far as education goes, I would always encourage them to achieve as best they can but not to work towards working for someone else! We're building business so they can see, as they grow, how it works and how to make the most of all their talents and abilities. I don't want them to be misguided into thinking that working for someone else is all they are studying for. If hubby and I get things right now then they shouldn't have to worry too much financially in future.
They will have as many options as we can help them identify, but I've yet to come across the part where we as parents have to let them go and trust that they will survive and make wise choices in the big world...that does scare me a little.
I like that, thats very nice!! Bravo!!
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Posted: Thursday February 15th, 2007 02:48 |
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In my opinion children will only be better off if they are raised well i.e. in a disciplined and loving environment; this will largely influence how they interact in society. A child who is raised well is more likely to have a better chance at life - in benefiting of a good education and making the right choices compared to one who isn't, who may end up on a self destructive course. Yes, the are more opportunities available today for young people, whether they take full advantage of this, so that they can have a better life is another matter. I think a lot of parents strive to give their kids a better childhood than one they had. Society is twisted and a frightful place for any parent, but with right upbringing a lot of pitfalls can be avoided.
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Posted: Saturday June 9th, 2007 04:55 |
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Well that is/was the intention. Most should be better off if only for the natural advancement and evolution of society. We live in times where people are only tyhinking about themselves and not the children. Indeed if me wanting my children to be born in wedlock is interpreted by hypocrites as something I done for myself and not them.
I think any proud parent would want to see their offspring enjoy the life they themselves missed out on. More than anything I want my children raised to be free but there is a discipline that is needed to be able to handle that freedom....one without the other is a recipe for babylons disaster.
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