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Posted: Sunday December 3rd, 2006 00:08 |
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-2484017,00.html
Money to be taken from errant parents' accounts
David Cracknell
POWERS to allow the government to access errant parents’ bank accounts are to be given to the body that will replace the Child Support Agency. The Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission, to be known as C-MEC, will gain the power to enforce compulsory direct debits from fathers and mothers to pay for the upkeep of their offspring.
The measure was outlined at last week’s cabinet meeting by John Hutton, the pensions secretary. Legislation was pencilled in to overhaul the child support system in the Queen’s speech last month, but little detail was known. The minister will publish his proposals — which some colleagues believe are draconian — in a white paper in the next few weeks.
Other new powers will include:
Making it compulsory for both parents to register their names on a birth certificate, whether married or unmarried;
Giving the commission the power to deduct maintenance from an errant parent’s earnings, without a court order;
In extreme cases, allowing the courts to order that those who persistently refuse to pay maintenance are electronically tagged or subjected to curfew orders;
Giving the commission access to revenue and customs records to track errant parents;
Allowing the commission to enforce fixed monthly payments regardless of whether or not a parent claims their circumstances have changed.
Parts of Hutton’s plans are being opposed by other cabinet members. Lord Falconer, the lord chancellor, and Harriet Harman, his junior minister, have protested in cabinet letters that the joint birth certificate proposals are “unworkable�, because some mothers will not want their child permanently linked with the biological father. For example, the biological father may be a rapist, an abuser or a sperm donor.
Ministers, who have been frustrated by the CSA’s bureaucracy and failure to target the most needy cases, are determined to focus the efforts of the new commission on the most unjust cases of neglect. The CSA was set up by John Major’s government in 1993, but has been dogged with complaints. It has a backlog of 300,000 cases
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Posted: Sunday December 3rd, 2006 08:19 |
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The Watcher wrote: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-2484017,00.html
Money to be taken from errant parents' accounts
David Cracknell
POWERS to allow the government to access errant parents’ bank accounts are to be given to the body that will replace the Child Support Agency. The Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission, to be known as C-MEC, will gain the power to enforce compulsory direct debits from fathers and mothers to pay for the upkeep of their offspring.
The measure was outlined at last week’s cabinet meeting by John Hutton, the pensions secretary. Legislation was pencilled in to overhaul the child support system in the Queen’s speech last month, but little detail was known. The minister will publish his proposals — which some colleagues believe are draconian — in a white paper in the next few weeks.
Other new powers will include:
Making it compulsory for both parents to register their names on a birth certificate, whether married or unmarried; Agree
Giving the commission the power to deduct maintenance from an errant parent’s earnings, without a court order; Hell, yes
In extreme cases, allowing the courts to order that those who persistently refuse to pay maintenance are electronically tagged or subjected to curfew orders; Double hell, yes
Giving the commission access to revenue and customs records to track errant parents; About time
Allowing the commission to enforce fixed monthly payments regardless of whether or not a parent claims their circumstances have changed. No, must be according to income & expenditure, with proof
Parts of Hutton’s plans are being opposed by other cabinet members. Lord Falconer, the lord chancellor, and Harriet Harman, his junior minister, have protested in cabinet letters that the joint birth certificate proposals are “unworkable�, because some mothers will not want their child permanently linked with the biological father. For example, the biological father may be a rapist, an abuser or a sperm donor.
Ministers, who have been frustrated by the CSA’s bureaucracy and failure to target the most needy cases, are determined to focus the efforts of the new commission on the most unjust cases of neglect. The CSA was set up by John Major’s government in 1993, but has been dogged with complaints. It has a backlog of 300,000 cases
Far too many absent parents getting away with this crap. For example, my sister-in-law's ex doesn't pay any maintenance and sees his children regularly. My sister-in-law lives in a council house. He has just bought a house, saying that she has nothing to leave the kids as an inheritance, which is why he bought the house! The irony has been lost on him, methinks.
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Posted: Sunday December 3rd, 2006 09:22 |
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Babylon and money - makes you wonder why some couples hook up to begin with. And why the assumption that parents are working and earning money. What about those government dependents on breadline Britain. got too many babylon disciples who believe you earn children, my kids are my kids who I am fully entitled to whether I spend/give/provide money or not. F**king greys!
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Posted: Sunday December 3rd, 2006 10:30 |
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i dont agree with nanny state.
governments already intefere too much.
the government shouldnt just take money from your bank account. who would be at fault if that direct debit is returned due to insufficient funds, who is gonna pay for the bank charges.
maintenance should be something that is agreed outside court but if court required it should be based on actual income
my cousin is not working at the mo but he aint no lay lay. he goes college and getting qualifications so he can get a job that earns a decent crust. his baby's mom took to csa/court whatever and now they take money direct from his dole and give her although he had been given the girl money on a regular for his child.
the biggest joke for me was a guy i know whi is in prison got a letter from csa asking for information on his income. the mother knew he was and is locked up.
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Posted: Sunday December 3rd, 2006 11:05 |
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Ladyday - brothas need to get in tune with this whole babylon system. Know a few cases where brothas have been told to prosecute women for assault and all sorts but it's just not what they are about. Got wiomen who will sell you out to babylon and beg your enemies bread rather than be seen to be "begging" their babyfather or indeed husband. The biggest joke of it all is the last people these women are thinking of are the children.
Guaranteed if I'm ever in a situation where I have custody of my children, I won't be asking the babymother for nish much more maintenance money. Babylon give them a ride for their money get them funny and brainwashed them on their western journey. I wouldn't have an issue with half of these suggestions if it were the case men were equally represented as the custodial parent as women. In many cases it's just the woman screwing on the life her babyfather will be living with his new wife. Got a colleague at work who just won one of his boys, he hasn't seen the other two in 7 months....even the children are separated now. All fu**ed up!
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Posted: Sunday December 3rd, 2006 11:10 |
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We spoke about this is another thread where women with no support are begging the state for hosuing and food. In this sense you can see where a babymother may sellout, espeially if the babyfather is wotliss but wher the babyfather is willing to look after and maintain his own children, that babymother better prepare herslf to be the visitor. Sellout raas!
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