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should very sick children be kept alive beyond their natural time?
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 Posted: Friday February 24th, 2006 23:32

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New ruling as Charlotte worsens


Charlotte's first visit home without medical staff was on Christmas DayA judge has ruled that doctors treating toddler Charlotte Wyatt can decide not to resuscitate her if they feel it would not be in her best interests.
The order came after an emergency hearing on Thursday, as Charlotte's condition deteriorated.



She has been suffering from an aggressive virus and doctors say the next few hours are "crucial".
The ruling follows a series of legal battles over the severely-disabled toddler's care.


The situation with Charlotte Wyatt is extremely serious, although at present she is currently in a stable condition

Portsmouth Hospitals NHS Trust
The little girl has so far spent the majority of her life at St Mary's Hospital in Portsmouth after being born prematurely with severe brain and lung damage.
Her parents have fought a series of court battles with Portsmouth NHS Trust over whether Charlotte, now aged two, should be given artificial ventilation if her condition worsened.


In October last year, her parents Darren and Debbie, won a partial victory when a judge lifted an order saying doctors would not be acting unlawfully if they decided not to give Charlotte artificial ventilation in a life-threatening situation.
The judge said then that her parents should reach agreement with the doctors about their daughter's treatment if a crisis arose.


'Free not to treat'
But in his latest ruling, Mr Justice Hedley said Charlotte's deterioration meant that circumstances had changed.
Doctors had told the court she had developed a cough, probably caused by a viral infection, a week ago, and was now having difficulties breathing.
Dr K, one of the team treating her - none of whom can be named - told the court that resuscitation would be futile and would "inflict unnecessary pain on this child, who has already suffered as much as she has".
Mrs Wyatt, currently separated from her husband, does still feel Charlotte would recover if she was ventilated.


But Justice Hedley ruled it was in the best interests of the toddler that "the medical profession should be free to refrain from intervention by way of intubation and resuscitation.
"A decision to desist would be lawful."


He also paid tribute to the commitment shown by the Wyatts, their legal team and the doctors treating Charlotte.
The judge added: "There is something to be said for a society in which the fate of a severely disabled child, wholly unable to articulate her own position, receives the care and attention from the state, and from authorities authorised by the state, that has been given in this case."
In a statement, Portsmouth Hospitals NHS Trust said "The situation with Charlotte Wyatt is extremely serious, although at present she is currently in a stable condition.


"Therefore an order is back in place."
It added: "It is important to note that all the clinicians involved in yesterday's court hearing, including the Wyatt family's own medical advisor, supported the actions of the trust's clinician caring for Charlotte Wyatt."



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 Posted: Friday February 24th, 2006 23:35

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They should have let her go a long time ago.  I think keeping the child alive is cruelty but I know that's unpopular thinking.



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 Posted: Saturday February 25th, 2006 09:22

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what would be a natural time?



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 Posted: Saturday February 25th, 2006 09:23

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If they are allowed to "let her die" then what kind of doctors are they. They're supposed to be doing all they can to help her survive.
As for what kind of quality of life would she have... well if she was born like this then she doesn't know any other way of living, just like other people born with disabilities.
If they do all they can and the child still dies then at least they can say they did all they could to help her.
I thought she was supposed to have been improvoing a few months ago. What if she could in fact recover from this virus with all the medical intervention dosctors could provide and her condition miraculously improves??

I believe they should do all they can for the child and leave the rest to God. If its God's will for Charlotte to die, then so be it and she will die regardless of medical intervention, but otherwise keep her alive if possible.
Why should doctors be able to decide against the wishes of the parents that it is in their child's best interests to be resuscitated?



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 Posted: Sunday February 26th, 2006 18:58

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aurora wrote: If they are allowed to "let her die" then what kind of doctors are they. They're supposed to be doing all they can to help her survive.
As for what kind of quality of life would she have... well if she was born like this then she doesn't know any other way of living, just like other people born with disabilities.
If they do all they can and the child still dies then at least they can say they did all they could to help her.
I thought she was supposed to have been improvoing a few months ago. What if she could in fact recover from this virus with all the medical intervention dosctors could provide and her condition miraculously improves??

I believe they should do all they can for the child and leave the rest to God. If its God's will for Charlotte to die, then so be it and she will die regardless of medical intervention, but otherwise keep her alive if possible.
Why should doctors be able to decide against the wishes of the parents that it is in their child's best interests to be resuscitated?


I agree totally, but I'm not in their situation and, until I am (God forbid) I don't think I have the right to judge.

I do feel, slightly, that the doctors request may have something to do with NHS resources though.



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 Posted: Sunday February 26th, 2006 21:38

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This is such a tough one. I don't know if I could see my child go through it but then I don't know if I could be strong enough to let her go....if she's deteriorating it may be the best thing to do. Having your child's life or death in the decision of the law must be tough. It must be even worse with all the media attention.



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