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Posted: Wednesday April 11th, 2007 23:47 |
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I've only just started watching. I like Jadine's honesty - like sticking up for the woman that left but she does need to tone it down. It says a lot that Suga kept her there because he considered her a 'street fighter' or one of his own type of people. I can see that too - and she looks decent, but she needs to hole it down. That gab is going to get her fired.
~I agree that Naomi should have gone - she should have run a tighter ship. I think Naomi was trying anything she could to get her azz saved, so blaming the other woman (forgotten her name - that got kicked off today) and then blaming Jadine was v. convenient for her. I know what women like Naomi are like- they rely on batting their eyelids to save them - and I think she really tried - at the end when she kept shouting at Jadine I thought it was a pathetic attempt to make herself look like Jadine was handful (which she was!) but Naomi laboured the point a bit.
It did crack me up when the woman that left barely shook Naomi's hand (when they were supposedly good friends before) but gave Jadine a big hug, LOL.
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@mba & babloa: I agree with you about Jadine. If she doesn't get the message from NOW and hold it down she will flop the show. Like Tre though she has some good points but her fire is showing a bit too much. One of the girls already said she was scared of her from the beginning .
I thought though that Naomi should have been fired because she didn't make any decisions but she too got caught in the trap of being sidetracked by Jadine. The same happened to her with Tre and the same pattern with the guy that got sacked last week. Hmmm do you think that will have figured to them by now?
Tre's language isn't necessary and he was very disrespectful to his team members. Not coping well under pressure seems to be one thing that could bring him down.
I'd still like to see more of what the others can do. Is it me or does it seem like we aren't seeing as much of the tasks this time round
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Posted: Thursday April 12th, 2007 08:15 |
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Does anyone see a pattern...?
Tre=Asian=handful/disruptive
Jadine=black=handful/disruptive
This is what happens in companies everywhere. When they see non-white's who are prepared to stand up for what they believe in, they label them a handful/disruptive.
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Posted: Thursday April 12th, 2007 08:27 |
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I suspected he wasn't going to get rid of Jadine...it would have been a contradiction to keeping Tre. Alan has been consistent here. I like the way the girl who did get evited had Jadines back saying as far as raw talent goes she is Alan's Apprentice.
lilthuggy - I think Alan loves ruthlessness, it's why my man last week talking about missing his wife and his son had no chance. Also have to remember for many companies out there a black employee is fashionable...you see it sometimes when there is an explosion of black faces in tv adverts and soap operas. When Tim won the Apprentice the first time round any shrewd black man would have seen this as an opportunity to take advantage of this follow fashion ethic we have here...employees would have been looking for a Tim in droves
It's a thin line between the stereotype of being seen as aggressive and the stereotype of playing or being the coorporate coon. In this sense jadine could learn a lot from Tim....saying that...it's about now the system will be trying to test his strength with a blonde 
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Posted: Thursday April 12th, 2007 09:36 |
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Incognito wrote: it's about now the system will be trying to test his strength with a blonde 
...a blonde DUDE maybe... (I thought Tim was gay?...or did I imagine reading that on this forum )
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Posted: Thursday April 12th, 2007 09:47 |
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When he won his girlfriend was there by his side....still...haven't heard of her in recent times
Saying that, looks like Jadine likes a grey LOL
In an interview Rory who was fired last week said...
But at least Tre said everything directly to me, whereas Jadine is a two-faced cow!
Don't let her fool you, she takes people on and throws them out. That girl is just a nasty piece of work.
What you didn't see is that she was trying it on with me and I was having none of it.
I've got a girlfriend and I'm very happy. I didn't need someone like Jadine feeling me up all over the place, flirting and telling everyone how wonderful I was.
Then, when I got kicked out and Tre walked back in, she smothered him with love and Gerri even asked her why she was celebrating that I had gone.
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Posted: Thursday April 12th, 2007 12:48 |
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Watched my first episode ast night and Im hooked, why don't Jadine just shut the eff up tho?
I must have shouted that at the screen 20 times last night!
From what the others said in the boardroom its clear that she has good ideas just lacks communications skills.
The girl who got kicked out tipped her to win which i thought was suprising, the team leader should have left, who the hell thought of face painting during the day when kids are at school?
The girl who got kicked off had no chance, it would have been really hard to find a location that would have made her any decent money.
Watching this makes me want to sign up for the next series.
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Posted: Thursday April 12th, 2007 13:05 |
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@ lithuugy
Are you serious?
Are Tre and Jadine's attiitudes 'lost in transaltion'
When Tre was turning the air blue was that just 'boys being boys'
No patter whatsoever. If yu wanna look for racism must try harder
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Posted: Thursday April 12th, 2007 13:33 |
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CashMoney wrote: @ lithuugy
Are you serious?
Are Tre and Jadine's attiitudes 'lost in transaltion'
When Tre was turning the air blue was that just 'boys being boys'
No patter whatsoever. If yu wanna look for racism must try harder
Now, I am not saying Tre is perfect in any way, but if you watched how he was being talked to by that white dude (Rory I think) last week-now if you really listened to what he was saying you might see what I am saying. He was not letting him have his say, and had him as his focus-which was his downful. Rory was so concerned with Tre's so-called 'disruptive' behaviour that he forgot the task at hand.
Similarly with Jadine; in the first episode, one of the white women said they were scared of her? Why-what had she done-nothing? Once again-it was the stereotype of the 'aggressive' black woman coming into play.
They had already labelled Tre and Jadine, and they really wanted to prove themselves right, but it did not work. May I add though, by no-means do I think Tre and Jadine are perfect, and Tre really needs to cut out at least some of the bad language.
This is exactly how our kids are labelled and positioned in school. They are labelled as aggressive/problem children, but because they are kids and the Teachers hold the positions of power, sadly for them they can be excluded and in turn their futures tarnished. The only difference with the Apprentice is that the candidates can speak up for themselves. You might think I'm being over-dramatic here, but I've seen and heard these things first-hand.
Now, about me-looking for racism? Lol, now that is a laugh if I ever heard one. I don't need to look for it, it is evident all around, in the hierarchical hegemonic way that society is structured.
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Posted: Thursday April 12th, 2007 13:34 |
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Melissa - hmmm..I think she got fired because she was fat
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Posted: Thursday April 12th, 2007 17:31 |
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lilthuggy wrote: Does anyone see a pattern...?
Tre=Asian=handful/disruptive
Jadine=black=handful/disruptive
This is what happens in companies everywhere. When they see non-white's who are prepared to stand up for what they believe in, they label them a handful/disruptive.
I have had plenty of experience of disruptive people and, I don't know about the 'race' angle, but these two are certainly disruptive. From what I have seen so far I wouldn't be in a hurry to employ them in my business. Mind you that goes for all the other wannabees on the show. The whole bunch of them seem hopeless to me. But hey it's only the 3rd week right?
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Posted: Thursday April 12th, 2007 20:10 |
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I have had plenty of experience of disruptive people and, I don't know about the 'race' angle, but these two are certainly disruptive. From what I have seen so far I wouldn't be in a hurry to employ them in my business. Mind you that goes for all the other wannabees on the show. The whole bunch of them seem hopeless to me. But hey it's only the 3rd week right?
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Posted: Friday April 13th, 2007 04:47 |
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lilthuggy wrote: CashMoney wrote: @ lithuugy
Are you serious?
Are Tre and Jadine's attiitudes 'lost in transaltion'
When Tre was turning the air blue was that just 'boys being boys'
No patter whatsoever. If yu wanna look for racism must try harder
Now, I am not saying Tre is perfect in any way, but if you watched how he was being talked to by that white dude (Rory I think) last week-now if you really listened to what he was saying you might see what I am saying. He was not letting him have his say, and had him as his focus-which was his downful. Rory was so concerned with Tre's so-called 'disruptive' behaviour that he forgot the task at hand.
Similarly with Jadine; in the first episode, one of the white women said they were scared of her? Why-what had she done-nothing? Once again-it was the stereotype of the 'aggressive' black woman coming into play.
They had already labelled Tre and Jadine, and they really wanted to prove themselves right, but it did not work. May I add though, by no-means do I think Tre and Jadine are perfect, and Tre really needs to cut out at least some of the bad language.
This is exactly how our kids are labelled and positioned in school. They are labelled as aggressive/problem children, but because they are kids and the Teachers hold the positions of power, sadly for them they can be excluded and in turn their futures tarnished. The only difference with the Apprentice is that the candidates can speak up for themselves. You might think I'm being over-dramatic here, but I've seen and heard these things first-hand.
Now, about me-looking for racism? Lol, now that is a laugh if I ever heard one. I don't need to look for it, it is evident all around, in the hierarchical hegemonic way that society is structured.
I partially agree with you except Tre and Jadine arent helping their cause by playing into the hands of those all to quick to enforce the stereotypes. Jadine particulary who was actually herself shouted down and called disruptive for pointing out the team leader's inadequacies. However she didnt point them out in a fashion which had any effect other than to back-fire on her. The timing was probably all wrong to turn the screw. She virtually guarenteed her place in the boardroom if the team lost, which they did of course. That cant be a smart way of playing.
It helps if you ooze charisma at times, and less ' In your face energy'. Jadine and probably Tre have no allies left and you do need them in order to win this show.
Lilthuggy i am feeling your vibe though and never give white people the benefit of the doubt in these seneraios as they ALWAYS come up trumps, without exception.

My white bwoy detector, which never lies, has been tingling with activity when this man opens his gob. Time will tell, as im sure he'll be faced with enough opportunity in this series or the next to reveal his true colours. There's just summon about his tone im picking up on.
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Posted: Friday April 13th, 2007 12:57 |
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Le Moor wrote: I partially agree with you except Tre and Jadine arent helping their cause by playing into the hands of those all to quick to enforce the stereotypes. Jadine particulary who was actually herself shouted down and called disruptive for pointing out the team leader's inadequacies. However she didnt point them out in a fashion which had any effect other than to back-fire on her. The timing was probably all wrong as well to turn the screw. She virtually guarenteed her place in the boardroom should the team lose, which they did of course, so this cant be playing smart.
It helps if you ooze charisma at times, and less ' In your face energy'. Jadine and probably Tre have no allies left, all be it false ones in this case, but you do need them in order to win this show.
Lilthuggy i am feeling your vibe though and never give white people the benefit of the doubt in these seneraios as they ALWAYS come up trumps, without exception.

My white bwoy detector, which never lies, has been tingling with activity when this man opens his gob. Time will tell, as im sure he'll be faced with enough opportunity in this series or the next to reveal his true colours. There's just summon about his tone im picking up on.
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Your white bwoy detector? Lol Now that made me laugh.
But seriously, I am glad you see where I am coming from, and I agree with you about Tre and Jadine, they need to hold it down for a bit as that is the only way that they will/can win.
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Posted: Friday April 13th, 2007 18:15 |
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Posted: Saturday April 14th, 2007 20:52 |
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Le Moor wrote: 
My white bwoy detector, which never lies, has been tingling with activity when this man opens his gob. Time will tell, as im sure he'll be faced with enough opportunity in this series or the next to reveal his true colours. There's just summon about his tone im picking up on.
LOL.... I hear you on this one.
I was wondering if my 'suspicions' about his apparent....let's say.....'attitude'......toward certain people, (throughout all the different series) was partly down to my stereotyping. But then I figured it probably comes down to the years of experience of working, living and operating among certain types which gives you a sort of second instinct about what lies behind every, comment, glance and facial expression. Respect
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Posted: Saturday April 14th, 2007 23:40 |
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Backatya wrote: Le Moor wrote: 
My white bwoy detector, which never lies, has been tingling with activity when this man opens his gob. Time will tell, as im sure he'll be faced with enough opportunity in this series or the next to reveal his true colours. There's just summon about his tone im picking up on.
LOL.... I hear you on this one.
I was wondering if my 'suspicions' about his apparent....let's say.....'attitude'......toward certain people, (throughout all the different series) was partly down to my stereotyping. But then I figured it probably comes down to the years of experience of working, living and operating among certain types which gives you a sort of second instinct about what lies behind every, comment, glance and facial expression.
Thats it exactly.
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Posted: Wednesday May 9th, 2007 21:18 |
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So far it's been quite easy to guess who's getting fired...guessd right every week so far. Last week when my man suggested heating up the sausages with his army camp fire solution - what a plank. Then in the boardroom when his team made it known that the sauasges didn't cook, my man tried defending it by saying they browned LOL...absolutely hilarious.

Don't think any of the candidates are good this year. The asian bloke Lohit looks a bit of a dark horse. Looks a bit of a sodomite as well which might explain why he takes a back seat...but he looks like he can do the business when in the spotlight.

I think the Indian lass is gone next, she has done absolutely nothing as yet.

Think Alan believes these are the worse lot yet and frankly someone has to win but he wouldn't want any of them working for him. As is always the case in situations like this, Alan will probably end up choosing the woman with the biggest tits.
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Posted: Thursday May 10th, 2007 17:11 |
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Jadine seems to have calmed down a bit, watched the last two episodes and she hardly had any airtime.
The majority of these people are twats, wonder what they said to actually get on the show?
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| Melissa you are not joking either, I have never witnessed such a bunch of no hopers in all my life.. These guys are jokers..That Asian girl is THICK as two short planks.. and that Kate, well that evil b**ch needs a come uppance....
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Posted: Thursday May 10th, 2007 17:42 |
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Posted: Friday May 11th, 2007 10:54 |
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All I can say is I hope that horse face freak gets fired next, she is just plain evil, if I was in that house she would scare the sh*te out of me, she looks posessed by the devil!
She will be there for a while though to keep the ratings up, personally she will turn me off the show, can't stand to look at her beetroot horsy face
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Posted: Friday May 11th, 2007 12:10 |
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Rastawoman wrote: All I can say is I hope that horse face freak gets fired...her beetroot horsy face
She was described as an attractive blonde by someone on a TV show. If that is attractive...then what the hell is ugly?
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lilthuggy wrote: Rastawoman wrote: All I can say is I hope that horse face freak gets fired...her beetroot horsy face
She was described as an attractive blonde by someone on a TV show. If that is attractive...then what the hell is ugly?
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