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 Posted: Saturday April 28th, 2007 02:36

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Jeez - I didn't know the comments section had taken off...here's a snippet..

http://www.esnips.com/doc/033062e5-1975-409c-8217-1b7750b0b57e/Vanessa-Feltz-Phone-In


who cares if White women age faster than Black women when Black women are ugly to begin with? It's the sad truth.
 
And yes, most Black men prefer White women, that's a fact. Most will deny it to not anger the ugly Black women (because we all know how bitter you guys are), but it's true. Unfortunately for them, most White women prefer White men, and not many White women find Black men attractive.

The average White women looks like a wet rage doll? LMAO! What jealousy. I guess that's why you guys pay money to look like us. Haha..You know if you had the chance to be a blonde haired, blue eyed girl you would JUMP at the chance because deep down, you know we are much more superior in looks.
 
And trust me, no White woman wants to look like a Black woman. No White woman wants to have sh*t brown skin, little naps for hair, wide ugly nose and fat bubble lips as well as big gorilla butts. We'd much rather have nice full lips, NOT THICK, (like Meditarrean women), golden tan skin, thin straight nose and light coloured eyes.
 
Like i said, men of ALL races want us. We are at the top of the list when it comes to desirability. What about Black women?
 
And p.s, the average Black woman looks like a gorilla (aka as a Black man).  There are only a few good looking Black women (and men); usually those who look more Euro, although i will admit Naomi Campbell is quite beautiful.



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 Posted: Saturday April 28th, 2007 03:02

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Incognito wrote: Jeez - I didn't know the comments section had taken off...here's a snippet..

http://www.esnips.com/doc/033062e5-1975-409c-8217-1b7750b0b57e/Vanessa-Feltz-Phone-In


who cares if White women age faster than Black women when Black women are ugly to begin with? It's the sad truth.
 
And yes, most Black men prefer White women, that's a fact. Most will deny it to not anger the ugly Black women (because we all know how bitter you guys are), but it's true. Unfortunately for them, most White women prefer White men, and not many White women find Black men attractive.

The average White women looks like a wet rage doll? LMAO! What jealousy. I guess that's why you guys pay money to look like us. Haha..You know if you had the chance to be a blonde haired, blue eyed girl you would JUMP at the chance because deep down, you know we are much more superior in looks.
 
And trust me, no White woman wants to look like a Black woman. No White woman wants to have sh*t brown skin, little naps for hair, wide ugly nose and fat bubble lips as well as big gorilla butts. We'd much rather have nice full lips, NOT THICK, (like Meditarrean women), golden tan skin, thin straight nose and light coloured eyes.
 
Like i said, men of ALL races want us. We are at the top of the list when it comes to desirability. What about Black women?
 
And p.s, the average Black woman looks like a gorilla (aka as a Black man).  There are only a few good looking Black women (and men); usually those who look more Euro, although i will admit Naomi Campbell is quite beautiful.


Oh don't worry, soon some black football player will be dating this girl.

And lookie here, It also has a black friend:








How is it racist to tell the truth? Yes i do have a Black friend and she is the complete exception to the rule. I already mentioned that she's quite beautiful and guess what, SHE FINDS WHITE PEOPLE MORE ATTARCTIVE AS WELL! She ONLY dates White guys and she does not even consider Black guys as an option (she thinks they're dirty looking, her exact words). She even wants to have mixed Black babies hoping they will inherit more White features because those features are more attractive (YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE!).
 
Personally, i think all Black people should mate with a White person to rid the world of ugliness. The mixed Black will mater with a White partner as well and pretty soon, the ugly Black gene will be gone forever. Did you guys know that Black people are the least evolved race? Yep, it's true. Us White people evolved from you guys and we evolved more (that's why we're smarter, more successful, powerful, beautiful, etc).
 
I just don't find Black people in general attractive at all (i also don't find East Asians attractive). That's not racist, it's called a preference. There are some exceptions but i'd say only like 2% of Black guys (usually half White as in Shemar Moore) are attractive and maybe 2 % of Black females (once again half White like Tyra Banks, Halle Berry, Beyonce, etc) are attractive. Most (like 98%) of you guys are a bit primitive looking (i know, it sounds bad..). I mean, you guys don't even find each other attractive, how do you expect other races to as well? If i had to rate the attractiveness of races it would be :
 
1) White
2) White latins
 
 BIG GAP
 
3) Middle Easterners
4) South Asians
 
BIG GAP
 
5) East Asians
6) Mixed Blacks
7) Blacks
 
Don't think this is true? Look at all the magazines, beauty polls, etc. Us White people invented beauty. I mean, it's quite obvious. EVERY race wants to have features like us. Asians bleach their skin, get double eye lid surgery and even get nose jobs. Blacks straigten their nappy (lol, NAPPY HEADED HOES!) hair, desire lighter skin, wear contact lenses, opt for thinner noses, etc .White latins (as in Italians, Spanish, etc) dye their hair, etc. Everyone wants to gain that blonde hair blue eyed Nordic beauty (like Charlize Theron and Paul Walker) that is deemed as the standard for all beauty (i'm blonde haired with green eyes btw). Black men can't keep their hands off of us (even thought the average White female thinks they look like apes and are thugs which most are), Asian women sell their bodies to White men, etc. Like i said, it's all too obvious, and the truth does hurt. Sorry.


Lol... this is what happens when black people give these fools validation by insulting their own.
 


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 Posted: Saturday April 28th, 2007 03:36

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Aryek - yeah  just told her about her see through skin:)



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 Posted: Saturday April 28th, 2007 04:17

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Incognito wrote: Aryek - yeah  just told her about her see through skin:)

Lol.  What's sad is that we're actually the ones giving people like her amunition for their venom.  Note how she's gloating about how black men apparently won't leave her alone.  And how she's using the fact that her black girlfriend says that she is not attracted to black men.  White people get off on our self-hatred and even expect us to reject each other for their scraps. 



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 Posted: Saturday April 28th, 2007 04:42

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Aryek - I think the saddest thing is the mind behind it all. Just think, you wake up in the morning and everytime you look in the mirror your dream of finally waking up with white skin has yet again failed to materialise. And just equally as sad are these black people who despise their own yet the only asset they themselves have in attracting or dating white people is their black skin.



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 Posted: Saturday April 28th, 2007 15:09

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Aryek wrote: Incognito wrote: Aryek - yeah  just told her about her see through skin:)

Lol.  What's sad is that we're actually the ones giving people like her amunition for their venom.  Note how she's gloating about how black men apparently won't leave her alone.  And how she's using the fact that her black girlfriend says that she is not attracted to black men.  White people get off on our self-hatred and even expect us to reject each other for their scraps. 


 

@aryek. Exactly it is sad because what your saying is true. White people laugh at people like phillippe and he cant even see it. I have seen with my own eyes a black man getting cussed out in peckham by some bluefoot woman for "talking that patois sh*t with your mates when you kno I cant fackin understand". Trailing their 3 brown kids behind. And the "man" just looked like a fool with his head down. And she's right the majority of bluefoot women do not want black men, if they do its just to fulfill some fantasy about the big black animal.. But they dont want to be serious with black men, figures why so many mix race children are in the care system waiting to be adopted/fostered...

They really did a number on us with slavery and colonialism. Some of us cant even see it. I have seen black men literally going gaga over a bluefoot . Me and my friend were at the bus stop, the man would not leave her alone and she kept turning around to look at us to make sure we knew what was going on. The girl had a proper smirk on her face whilst these coons are making complete fools out of themselves.

Trust me when you have lived amongst the wazungu, you kno how they work and they love to hear us slaggin eachother off in favour for them. It reinforces their notions of superiority and how they think everyone wants to be with them or like them



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WOW those statments are..I mean I want to be mad but I cant. they just sound soooo Incredibly stupid. Is this what we lead white people to belive:? first of most black people have full/thick lips. mots men love our "big gorilla buts".and.....you know what lets just put the "most black women are ugly" theory to the test. with full blooded. non mixed black women.

Naiomi cambelle
Agbani Darego...2001 miss WORLD (from nigeria)
oluchi onweagba
Waris Dirie (ethiopia)

Iman (Somalia)

Jessica White

Ayam Hirisi

Caroline Chikezie

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Incognito wrote: Aryek - I think the saddest thing is the mind behind it all. Just think, you wake up in the morning and everytime you look in the mirror your dream of finally waking up with white skin has yet again failed to materialise. And just equally as sad are these black people who despise their own yet the only asset they themselves have in attracting or dating white people is their black skin.

Actually I think their mentality or their perceived mentality is the biggest asset that attracts white people to date them.  White people love admirers.  They love to spew their venom but at the same time think that everyone should have a natural inclination towards them.  When they meet black people who are more than willing to slate members of their race in favour of them, it's the ultimate high.  Had a white woman who was constantly trying to convince me to date white men.  Until recently, I never really understood why she took such an interest in my dating preferences.  She had the audacity to get all upset one day and asked when I was going to date white men? blkwonder 

Anyway, I've come to realize that she and many of them are always looking for validation of their superiority and this is one means that they go about doing it.  Had an Asian (Oriental) friend who went against the grain of dating white guys.  In a conversation with a group of girls, she made it known that she had no attraction to white men, well low and behold, the white girls in the group got all upset and defensive and started dissing Asian men.  Now, I've had these same girls say that they don't find black guys attractive, but I didn't see it as a slight, oh well.  They, on the other hand can't take it when you're not lavishing praise on them.



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Those pictures of beautiful African women are nice to look at always, but could you please resize them so the thread is easier to read, thanks.



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Who gives a damn what he or anyone things... Black people are their own worst enemies. So he is conditioned and has a mental illness…And what the hell is a ‘black woman with white features’??? Black people come in ALL different shape and sizes...  

 

 

Ebony, we have lead white ppl to think exactly like how they think... We got to stop dividing each other… If one Black man doesn’t find u attractive, who cares? There are plenty of Black men that do find Black women beautiful...  



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yea Kalmera i dont think u quite understand the subtlties of the issue, lol. But thats ok not everyone is mentally on a level.

Anyway i found out who this "Phillipe" guy is.  Im ashamed to say hes in my extended family (although through marriage and not blood). Ive never met him before but im told his skin is black as charcoal. And also that hes an ugly motherf**ker which is why he cant get no black gyals.


 

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conman you should go to your local African food shop, buy a log of yam, and batter the boy till he crys blood.



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Well....I dont think anyone is surprised are they......so the white lady thinks White is the ish?    Now if we could only do the same with our children....lol

Seriously though......I dont care what some white lady thinks of my features actually, I think we should become more insular, its not what others think of us which bothers me, but we what WE think of us, thats what is really doing the damage.



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This thread topic is very laugable indeed. First off, perhaps chi you should speak for your own personal experience and not assumed...

" Now if we could only do the same with our children....lol"

That is funny indeed:shock:... I almost bet that you are not a black woman nor have black children...lolconfused3 so your statement bears no relation to reality in the department of what "our children" feel or identify beauty with. You are not a fly on the wall in black families household, so the statement itself sounds blkexercise distorted...

 

Moving on, as I see it, I could care less about what any woman be white or black think regarding beauty: Men like what they like. I for one have never desired to be a white chick no more than any white woman desiring to be tan year round. My circle of peers sense attraction somewhat differently, for me its qualities relates to the 'mind' (intelligence) before the *booty*. And, I would not have any other way, I am grateful that God made me as he saw fit: Special.

*wrinkle free skin*

smooth curvy bottom

small silky breast

 long cholocate legs

And,

sheep like hair that is not susceptible to hair lice.

 Having a wide nose tells the story of my people--unbend.

For that, I thank the Good Lord everynight.:cool:

Rather its with clothes on or off, beauty begins in the mind before its retains its place in action = self esteem

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Ladyz lol....So you dont feel that young black children dont feel that Black is the ish?.......the guy on the radio and countless others obviously dont feel Black is the ish.....that was my point when I said "now if only we could get our children to do the same"...ie think Black is the ish............we know that many Black children dont feel beautiful and many Black men do not feel that Black women are beautiful...........so if you choose to bury your head in the sand thats on you......but the rest of us know the often sad truth.

 

 

 

 



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chi wrote: Ladyz lol....So you dont feel that young black children dont feel that Black is the ish?.......the guy on the radio and countless others obviously dont feel Black is the ish.....that was my point when I said "now if only we could get our children to do the same"...ie think Black is the ish............we know that many Black children dont feel beautiful and many Black men do not feel that Black women are beautiful...........so if you choose to bury your head in the sand thats on you......but the rest of us know the often sad truth.

 
You're right about that chi.  If you talk to a lot of black people about how they felt about themselves growing up, most of them will tell you that they felt odd, ugly, etc as children and it was only as they were growing up that they started to gain some self-esteem.  I was on another board and some of the females were saying how they would put towels over their heads and pretend that they had long, coloured straight hair as children.  Most white children on the other hand are taught to feel superior from the get go.  I don't think the black community really tries to affirm our worth and value.  Just look at how some black mothers are attaching fake hair to their children's head. You're taught to have issues with your hair and skin even before you leave elementary school.   Most of us have to go and seek it out for ourselves.  And those who can't, turn out like this guy on the radio or the one in the "I hate black people" thread.
 

 

 



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Aryek wrote: chi wrote: Ladyz lol....So you dont feel that young black children dont feel that Black is the ish?.......the guy on the radio and countless others obviously dont feel Black is the ish.....that was my point when I said "now if only we could get our children to do the same"...ie think Black is the ish............we know that many Black children dont feel beautiful and many Black men do not feel that Black women are beautiful...........so if you choose to bury your head in the sand thats on you......but the rest of us know the often sad truth.

 
You're right about that chi.  If you talk to a lot of black people about how they felt about themselves growing up, most of them will tell you that they felt odd, ugly, etc as children and it was only as they were growing up that they started to gain some self-esteem.  I was on another board and some of the females were saying how they would put towels over their heads and pretend that they had long, coloured straight hair as children.  Most white children on the other hand are taught to feel superior from the get go.  I don't think the black community really tries to affirm our worth and value.  Just look at how some black mothers are attaching fake hair to their children's head. You're taught to have issues with your hair and skin even before you leave elementary school.   Most of us have to go and seek it out for ourselves.  And those who can't, turn out like this guy on the radio or the one in the "I hate black people" thread.


 

Yeah and its very sad.......although many grow up to iron out self esteem, but it often takes a battering, especially in the younger years. The whole perming and weave on starts very young and always has done, it takes lots of effort when you live in a White society which understandably promotes their own beauty to counter that notion where Black children are concerned, many parents haven't reached that understanding for themselves let alone doing it for their children.

We here are adults, but I shudder to think the number of young Black girls who have heard the clip, just at the point where they are forming their self identity.....one more unhealthy belief to unravel in later years I guess.

 

 





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Hello chi,

Interesting response...just enjoying my morning coffee before I'm off to spend time with my Mother-in-law... once again, it appears that your one-dimensional view sounds clearly..

You wrote:

" Now if we could only do the same with our children....lol"

What I gather from your response is that you assumed that "our children" aren't raised (in mind) to think that they are desirable.. And it shows when you wrote this:

So you dont feel that young black children dont feel that Black is the ish?.......

 And my exact words to you were: I almost bet that you are not a black woman nor have black children...lolconfused3 so your statement bears no relation to reality in the department of what "our children" feel or identify beauty with.  

Therefore, by your own one-dimensional stance, you frame the response to incite that ..."if we could only do the same with our children" reinforcing that you know the reality of "our children" affect of identity or what they deemed desirable qualities.

Rather than expound on what has been stated you twisted the discussion by attack after I generalised that :*I almost bet that you are not a black woman nor have black children...lol.*

So, I can only surmised that your true intent is to ill-form or create more confusion about black children. (Because you asked if I felt that young black children is the *it*, when I have already told you from the beginning, that you have no idea what "our children" feel or identify beauty with). 

Rather than address the issue, you engage in projection; displaying a low level of maturity toward engaging in a conversation with this REAL African woman by suggesting that:

we know that many Black children dont feel beautiful and many Black men do not feel that Black women are beautiful...........so if you choose to bury your head in the sand thats on you......but the rest of us know the often sad truth.

Well, honey you are wrong. Like I said before, beauty begins in mind and is placed there by parents, and with self; to feel not attractive comes by way of social antagonism that is ingrained by processes of other individuals, or information consumption that attribute beauty in ways that is set by its creator. And dear, white children also are wrapped up with this feeling of unattractiveness as well. 

So, your stance of ...many black children don't feel beautiful" and "many black men do not feel that black women are beautiful" is distorted. blkkiss 

If this was the case, there will be genetic annihilation of my race which of course has not occurred despite history. And, what your statement reveals demonstrates once again, that






You are NOT an African woman nor have black babiesblkblah.

So, honey I will not *remain bend* over what one brother says about women, therefore no *bury my head in the sand* has occurred or will not. blkclap

What you fail to realised about US is that women like me do not need to demonstrate what beauty and grace is: its appeal resonates by action reinforcing what I have already stated: Men like what they like.blkbrukteet

As for your statement... "rest of 'us know the often sad truth... All I will say is that honey there is no one crying over a spilt milk or less its your ownconfused3

To feel like you are *it* starts (in mind) and presents with attitude no competition is required. And, for the record, I heard what that one black male said, so I wonder what really is the problem here? Is it his lack of interest in his own women or his lack of attraction in you?

Stop trying to pretend to be a black woman when you are not!! Like I said, its not about race or what negative attributes that is equated with unattractiveness, its about arousal that appeal to one's own pleasures, and dear that goes for any MAN:

Like I said before, I do not care about what any woman be it black or white feel when it comes to the pool of mate selection, because as I have been taught years ago, by very own dear old dad--MEN LIKE WHAT THEY LIKE, and there is no absolute validation range for men to gravitate toward one specific race of women.blkexercise That dear shows your own *head being bury in the sand*. blkidea 

I was a young girl who blossom into a nice chocolate wonder, bless in own way to have admirers before meeting the love of my life (My husband): Men like what they like. Okay! it will be all right.  Like my Mother taught me, if you want your honey, then maintain your honey!!blkrubhead

Its not about competition its about working with what you have.. So, by all means, do put down black women and talk about hair weaves, or child hood issues that only reinforces your jealousy or own internal issues of self. blkheadrock

I know I am beautiful just as all of the women in my family and dear that in itself is: Priceless.fingersx


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 Posted: Tuesday May 1st, 2007 11:44

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ladyz wrote: Hello chi,

Interesting response...just enjoying my morning coffee before I'm off to spend time with my Mother-in-law... once again, it appears that your one-dimensional view sounds clearly..

You wrote:

" Now if we could only do the same with our children....lol"

What I gather from your response is that you assumed that "our children" aren't raised (in mind) to think that they are desirable.. And it shows when you wrote this:

So you dont feel that young black children dont feel that Black is the ish?.......

 And my exact words to you were: I almost bet that you are not a black woman nor have black children...lolconfused3 so your statement bears no relation to reality in the department of what "our children" feel or identify beauty with.  

Therefore, by your own one-dimensional stance, you frame the response to incite that ..."if we could only do the same with our children" reinforcing that you know the reality of "our children" affect of identity or what they deemed desirable qualities.

Rather than expound on what has been stated you twisted the discussion by attack after I generalised that :*I almost bet that you are not a black woman nor have black children...lol.*

So, I can only surmised that your true intent is to ill-form or create more confusion about black children. (Because you asked if I felt that young black children is the *it*, when I have already told you from the beginning, that you have no idea what "our children" feel or identify beauty with). 

Rather than address the issue, you engage in projection; displaying a low level of maturity toward engaging in a conversation with this REAL African woman by suggesting that:

we know that many Black children dont feel beautiful and many Black men do not feel that Black women are beautiful...........so if you choose to bury your head in the sand thats on you......but the rest of us know the often sad truth.

Well, honey you are wrong. Like I said before, beauty begins in mind and is placed there by parents, and with self; to feel not attractive comes by way of social antagonism that is ingrained by processes of other individuals, or information consumption that attribute beauty in ways that is set by its creator. And dear, white children also are wrapped up with this feeling of unattractiveness as well. 

So, your stance of ...many black children don't feel beautiful" and "many black men do not feel that black women are beautiful" is distorted. blkkiss 

If this was the case, there will be genetic annihilation of my race which of course has not occurred despite history. And, what your statement reveals demonstrates once again, that


















You are NOT an African woman nor have black babiesblkblah.

So, honey I will not *remain bend* over what one brother says about women, therefore no *bury my head in the sand* has occurred or will not. blkclap

What you fail to realised about US is that women like me do not need to demonstrate what beauty and grace is: its appeal resonates by action reinforcing what I have already stated: Men like what they like.blkbrukteet

As for your statement... "rest of 'us know the often sad truth... All I will say is that honey there is no one crying over a spilt milk or less its your ownconfused3

To feel like you are *it* starts (in mind) and presents with attitude no competition is required. And, for the record, I heard what that one black male said, so I wonder what really is the problem here? Is it his lack of interest in his own women or his lack of attraction in you?

Stop trying to pretend to be a black woman when you are not!! Like I said, its not about race or what negative attributes that is equated with unattractiveness, its about arousal that appeal to one's own pleasures, and dear that goes for any MAN:

What happens to the little boy who grows up believeing that Black features are ugly?.......I'm talking about the point at which ideas about beauty are formed.

Like I said before, I do not care about what any woman be it black or white feel when it comes to the pool of mate selection, because as I have been taught years ago, by very own dear old dad--MEN LIKE WHAT THEY LIKE, and there is no absolute validation range for men to gravitate toward one specific race of women.blkexercise

I know that and we are not talking about attraction to other races, but disgust towards your own......its not the same thing. A man can be attracted to other races without finding Black women "disgusting".

 That dear shows your own *head being bury in the sand*. blkidea 

I was a young girl who blossom into a nice chocolate wonder, bless in own way to have admirers before meeting the love of my life (My husband): Men like what they like. Okay! it will be all right.  Like my Mother taught me, if you want your honey, then maintain your honey!!blkrubhead

This is NOT about grown people, this is about kids feeling they are unattractive. Its not about honey or some type of adult sexual attraction its about self image.