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Posted: Thursday January 11th, 2007 20:39 |
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They are claiming James Brown as one of their own! I eat my words, a huge slice of humble pie. Pass the muskets!
rarely have I ever seen such anti-african hatred. They dont seem to be claiming white icons as being mixed race either..er Tom Jones etc
http://www.intermix.org.
Could MGL out the mixed up morons behind this site. We need to know.
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Posted: Thursday January 11th, 2007 20:59 |
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Posted: Thursday January 11th, 2007 21:37 |
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I think that this is the website that you were referring to
http://www.intermix.org.uk/homepages/homepage_default.asp
I have had a look at their forum and some of the discussions are interesting.
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Posted: Thursday January 11th, 2007 21:48 |
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interesting
Well Done Leona
 But will the media ever wake up?
One of the most heart-warming stories of 2006 is that of Leona Lewis the The 21-year-old Londoner who became the first woman of colour in the UK to win a major reality show.
Of course Leona has a rare talent and would have gone on to do big things even if she had not won ITV's X Factor and what is particularly refreshing is the large vote she received from the British public. Votes her mother several days before the final had doubted would appear. Never was a mother more pleased to be wrong.
However with the success of Leona winning the X Factor come familiar media referrals. Despite being of English, Welsh and Jamaican parentage, Leona is now being officially described as a Black artist. Do they think that Black people are blind and will be compensated with Leona winning when Lemar who is an equally exceptional talent did not or is it because Leona's parents are still together and she does not fit their stereotypical image of a confused mixed-race individual.
Leona definitely deserved her win but let's not pretend it's something it isn't yes she is a woman of colour but in most parts of Africa and the Caribbean she would be described as white. It's highly unlikely that most of the five million people who voted for Leona thought of her as a Black young woman or a white one for that matter. Let's hope Leona has the confidence to speak up and acknowledge her mixed-race background before she too gets nominated as one of the UK's 100 Black Britons.
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Posted: Thursday January 11th, 2007 21:56 |
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check_check wrote: They are claiming James Brown as one of their own! I eat my words, a huge slice of humble pie. Pass the muskets!
rarely have I ever seen such anti-african hatred. They dont seem to be claiming white icons as being mixed race either..er Tom Jones etc
http://www.intermix.org.
Could MGL out the mixed up morons behind this site. We need to know.
Well Check_Check, we misunderstood. . .James Brown made this other song called. . ."I'M Mixed and I'M Proud!!!!"
James Joe Brown, Jr. was born on May 3rd, 1933 in Barnwell, South Carolina. His father, Joe Garner Brown was of black and American Indian parentage and his mother, Susie Behlings Brown was of black and Asian parentage.
He nearly didn't make it into this world being a stillborn baby delivered by his aunts. His Aunt Minnie however did not give up after he was born, blowing into his lungs until he finally started crying.
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Posted: Thursday January 11th, 2007 23:26 |
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Judging by the number of black Americans, and white Americans too, who claim native heritage, James Brown wasn't any more mixed than your average black American. So what exactly is their point? I bet you the majority of the people on that site are mixed with white, which James Brown was not, so what does he have to do with them again? 
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Posted: Friday January 12th, 2007 00:02 |
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Aryek wrote: Judging by the number of black Americans, and white Americans too, who claim native heritage, James Brown wasn't any more mixed than your average black American. So what exactly is their point? I bet you the majority of the people on that site are mixed with white, which James Brown was not, so what does he have to do with them again?
Hey, even I "claim" American Indian heritage. . .but I am not an American Indian. I am African because of culture. My father and my grandmother who have Cherokee heritage would say the same thing. We have always been "Black" people. And "Black" people are the only ones who have accepted us as their own.
The point being made is that "mixed people" are defined differently. For them it is not about being accepted. They are looking for disconnected racial definitions. All I can do is wish them luck. If they can do it, that's on them. But James Brown sung a song. . .and it was called. . ."I am Black and I am proud." He didn't say he was "Black", American Indian, "White", Asian and proud. There was one community that accepted him and he in turn embraced that community. "Mixed" folks didn't accept him. Neither did "Whites". Asians, American Indians may have possessed the ability, but probably not the opportunity.
So he became a "Black" man.
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Posted: Friday January 12th, 2007 12:53 |
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Posted: Friday January 12th, 2007 15:40 |
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| yeah me too that explains his hair
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Posted: Friday January 12th, 2007 18:05 |
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CheckCheck,
Even if james brown is mixed/not mixed he does has a little 5 year old son who could relate to this. He's mixed.
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Posted: Friday January 12th, 2007 18:18 |
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..and your point being ceecee?
wtf!!
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Posted: Friday January 12th, 2007 19:07 |
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cherrypie wrote: yeah me too that explains his hair
**Dying on the floor in shock**
PLEASE tell me you aren't for real!
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Posted: Friday January 12th, 2007 19:58 |
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Posted: Friday January 12th, 2007 20:00 |
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The Watcher wrote: cherrypie wrote: yeah me too that explains his hair
**Dying on the floor in shock**
PLEASE tell me you aren't for real!
Now, you know she is just playing.
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Posted: Friday January 12th, 2007 23:01 |
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I saw a post on that board about Oprah being biracial but most of the forum members thought that she was black.
On some of these type of boards aimed at biracial people not that board in particular but on some of these type of boards some forum members really do not like black people at all it seems. Maybe they have gone through nasty stuff to make them feel that way who knows. It seems though that some people like that are forgetting that their mother or father is black.
Naomi Campbell claims to be multiracial i didn't believe it at first i thought that she was one of those type that maybe just said it because she thinks that it makes her seem more interesting but now i think that she could well be.
I learnt that Trisha Goddard was biracial one white parent and one black parent and that surprised me because i would have never guessed if i never read it. Last edited on Saturday January 13th, 2007 00:00 by rachie
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Posted: Friday January 12th, 2007 23:18 |
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Posted: Saturday January 13th, 2007 16:31 |
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rachie wrote: I saw a post on that board about Oprah being biracial but most of the forum members thought that she was black.
On some of these type of boards aimed at biracial people not that board in particular but on some of these type of boards some forum members really do not like black people at all it seems. Maybe they have gone through nasty stuff to make them feel that way who knows. It seems though that some people like that are forgetting that their mother or father is black.
Naomi Campbell claims to be multiracial i didn't believe it at first i thought that she was one of those type that maybe just said it because she thinks that it makes her seem more interesting but now i think that she could well be.
I learnt that Trisha Goddard was biracial one white parent and one black parent and that surprised me because i would have never guessed if i never read it.
Trisha Goddard IS NOT BI-RACIAL .... Far from it. Naomi Campbell is part chinese 1/4 ... Her mother is mixed. Tyson Beckford the model is also the same. His mother is Half Chinese, Half black. They are both considered mixed on multi-racial forums. And they both IDENTIFY and BLACK for a fact. Naomi Campbell states very well that she's the most successful black model
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Posted: Saturday January 13th, 2007 16:37 |
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| OMG.... Trisha Goddard is MIXED RACE .... I just checked out her profile and damn, she is mixed race. I'm shocked..... It just goes to show how many black people u must see everyday and not even realise that they are mixed race. I never would have guessed
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Posted: Saturday January 13th, 2007 19:51 |
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My query is: Where do you draw the line when sating that you are mixed?
is it two, three, four generations. I think it is valid if one parent is a completely diffrent race, but what is happening now is we get into 1/4 or1/8 and this hatred of ourselves gets ridiculous.
Due to white supremacy we live in a racially based society. White people will never fully except mixed race ppl as there own, yes they may get a few purks but that's it.
Historically whites trying to create mixed race classes have been used as a tactic to divide and conquer us as a people, they have been used a s a buffer between blacks and whites. Which leaves many in an awkward space.
In this country they encourage mixing because it benefits them not us. Statistically mixed race are more likely to marrying or procreate with white, this Afrikan ancestory can be diluted within a few generations, although we know that some characteristics may persist,also you create people who have a divided loyalty because they don't want to deny or chastise a part of themselves. The numbers of of Afrikan Caribbeans is dewindling because of race mixing. Race mixing is part of the reason that findiong a suitable donor is more difficult within our community.
We seem to have a great tendency for proclaiming part Ancestory of other races, but i don't notice them doing the same, invariably they try to hide it.
At the end of the day when the white people are ready to attack they couldn't care less if your mother is Scottish and father is Jamaican, they will go after you like they would any other Afrikan.
Race mixing is nothing new, and it wil always ocur when people are in close proximity, but in 2007 the impilications ae quite profound.
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Posted: Saturday January 13th, 2007 22:25 |
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Who is the owner of that poor bunny. I keep seeing him in different pictures with all manner of objects on his head. I will consider writing to the SPCA about the abuse of this poor bunny. Rabbits should not have pancakes and loo rolls attatched to their heads.
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Posted: Saturday January 13th, 2007 22:36 |
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R'uh R'oh... PH has whipped out the bunny!
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Posted: Saturday January 13th, 2007 22:42 |
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Look, waffles, pancakes, loo rolls and other bunnies... it's extremely cruel and exploitative of the owner. I wonder if the bunny recieves any of the proceeds
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Posted: Saturday January 13th, 2007 23:23 |
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I'm sure dude is just fine!
Put it this way, seeing how bunnies are known for sexing on the regular, I bet dude must now have a legion of female fans now that he's got internet fame. If I was him I would gladly pose with all kinds of objects on my head ROFL. 
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Posted: Saturday January 13th, 2007 23:28 |
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| So you're saying the bunnies' celebrity status within the bunny world justifys the exploitation? Look at he's expression in the pictures. He doesn't look pleased to me
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Posted: Saturday January 13th, 2007 23:43 |
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I bet he looks a lot happier than that when the groupies and carrots roll in though!
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 09:55 |
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I guess my post will fall on deaf ears, but Africans I think the issue of mixed race sef-definition and cultural repositioning is potentially too important to get sidelined by a frigging bunny. Am I the one one in thinking that this renewed assault on our history(dont mess with history) can have grave implications for our future and children's futures? This "movement" has already gained credence with the adding of mixed race as a racial category on census forms (think about it) and is a potentially important intellectual development that might ensure the perpetutaion of african disadvantage. Look at our cherished history..how many achievers are in fact fully African. Look at the situation today.
Are we really who we think we are, and shoudn't we really do a rethink about who we are.Or can we simply opt in or out of "blackness" as Channel Four seem to think we can do?
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 16:52 |
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| Lil soulful....Trisha is Mixed race....her Dad is White English.
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 17:05 |
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so how she come out the same colour as me?
dang...come to think of it wheres the white in that chick?
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 17:17 |
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Black_Power wrote: so how she come out the same colour as me?
dang...come to think of it wheres the white in that chick?
.......it's in her father......lol
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I was thinking today it is a good thing that biracial people in general appear to be more confident in their identities then they were in the past. When some biracial people talk of their past and growing up they talk about not feeling that they fitted in and not fully feeling accepted by black or white people.
If people are biracial i don't feel that they should have to choose between black/white ethnicity if they do not want to. This may lend to stronger identities being formed for some by embracing parts of their racial makeup.
Of course some biracial people will want to be seen as just as being black i have no problem with that.
I don't see the new census classifications as a bad thing.Last edited on Sunday January 14th, 2007 19:42 by rachie
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 21:36 |
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Its not suffcient to just say its a good thing. Give a few reasons why you feel mixed race is being designated an,er, separate race. The confidence in their identities line is a bit bogus. Back in the sixties and seventies the radicalisation of black youth and the civil rights struggle meant that separate identity was never an issue. Black political philosophies which grew out of a full understandng of our history generated and sustained a shared identity. what has happened since? In part, the successful education of white people by black people has broken down social taboos and forced an inclusive economic reality..our success in breaking the beast has also been our disadvantage, just like the class mixing in the first world war led to todays meritocracy in Britain. But class, unlike race, is a creation of social conditions. Thats something which our mixed up mixed race friends must remember. Social conditions will change, and race will always be the ultimate marker of difference.
BTW Somebody mentioned to me once that mixed race people with white daddies are more likely to hate on black men than those with black daddies. Does anyone tend to agree? I'm just interested in the pathology of self hate. Any psychologists in the house?
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 21:43 |
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Sorry but I don't agree.
They can't be black and white .... They needa pick which one they are gonna be !
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Posted: Sunday January 14th, 2007 22:23 |
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As i wrote before I have read quite a bit over the years things that have been written by biracial people stating that they don't feel like they fitted in or was fully accepted by white or black people.
Some of these people appeared to not know who they were or where they belonged. I had a best friend at school who was Eurasian and she spoke of the same thing.
Some biracial people have spoken out loud about this census issue and asked for more census classifications because they didn't know what box to tick etc. It does seem to be an issue for some.
This is just an observation but some people who are biracial today appear to me to have a stronger sense of identity of self and appear to be proud of who they are as biracial people.
I think also in general my point was that biracial people shouldn't have to choose to either be black or white if they don't want to.
I have biracial and black nieces and nephews and i hope to encourage and teach them all to be proud of who they are because i do believe that it forges strong identities.Last edited on Sunday January 14th, 2007 22:51 by rachie
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Posted: Monday January 15th, 2007 08:47 |
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| In the REAL WORLD anybody who looks like James Brown and isn't a celebrity ever claimed to be "mixed" would either be assumed to be flat out crazy or called a self hating Negro. Money it seems changes everything.............
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Posted: Monday January 15th, 2007 13:01 |
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Black_Power wrote: so how she come out the same colour as me?
dang...come to think of it wheres the white in that chick?
Try the bad hair and dress sense!
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Posted: Thursday January 18th, 2007 02:01 |
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check_check wrote: I guess my post will fall on deaf ears, but Africans I think the issue of mixed race sef-definition and cultural repositioning is potentially too important to get sidelined by a frigging bunny. Am I the one one in thinking that this renewed assault on our history(dont mess with history) can have grave implications for our future and children's futures? This "movement" has already gained credence with the adding of mixed race as a racial category on census forms (think about it) and is a potentially important intellectual development that might ensure the perpetutaion of african disadvantage. Look at our cherished history..how many achievers are in fact fully African. Look at the situation today.
Are we really who we think we are, and shoudn't we really do a rethink about who we are.Or can we simply opt in or out of "blackness" as Channel Four seem to think we can do?
Check, I think most here understand. Mixed folks aren't "Black", they are seeking to become something different. We should let them. But when they try to claim another famous "Black" person, we should beat them over the head.
Mixed folks have a different history and a different culture.
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Posted: Thursday January 18th, 2007 02:03 |
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lilsoulful1 wrote:
Sorry but I don't agree.
They can't be black and white .... They needa pick which one they are gonna be !
Why can't they be neither? If they don't want to be "Black" that is all I need to know. What "Whites" do with them is their business.
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