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Posted: Sunday October 26th, 2003 19:21 |
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I'm sorry but I think that Berry and Denzel won the Oscars due to politics and I feel they were both undeserved. However, there have been some great performances from black actors/actresses that should have been awarded
Samuel L. Best Supporting Actor: JUNGLE FEVER, PULP FICTION
M. Freeman. Best Supporting Actor: SHAWASHANK REDEMPTION
Denzel. Best Actor: MALCOLM X
These are just a few, there must be tons more.
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Posted: Monday October 27th, 2003 06:35 |
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Definitely agree Denzel for Malcom X, Angela Bassett for "What's Love Got to do with it?". Although Cuba Gooding Jnr was very good in Jerry McGuire, I was surprised he won the Oscar, I didn't feel he gave an Oscar winning performance, if anything maybe Boys in the Hood, I would have given Ice Cube a nomination, he played his character very well!! Whoopie should have received her Oscar for "The Colour Purple" as opposed to "Ghost"
Apart from Denzel, Samuel, Angela and Morgan, I don't feel there are any black actors that really have that "X-factor" for Oscar potentiality yet, of course my theory is their not getting good script offers.
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Posted: Monday October 27th, 2003 07:23 |
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I think Denzel should have at least been nominated for Antwon Fisher, as best Director. That was a very powerful film. If you watch the opening sequence you will see what I mean. I was also surprised that Derek Luke didn't get a nomination for the title role, he was outstanding in it. I agree definitely that Denzel should have gotten it for Malcolm X but it went to Al Pacino that year for Scent of a Woman. I personally was glad Denzel got it for "Training day"...he was again amazing and so outside of his usual character in that.
But he put it best in a recent interview with USA Today that he felt the training day win, was for a past performance, He says the academy tends to reward for a past performance. Actually many thought he should have won for "The Hurricane" too, he was outstanding in that as well.
I also believe Halle was deserving as well with her win. The scenes with the young boy who played her son were not only outstanding but heartfelt especially when she learned he had died. She really relayed the pain of a mother who had just lost a child in that scene. I cried endlessly in the theater the day I went to see the film.
Other notables who should have won or at the very least got a nomination...Jaime Foxx for "Any given Sunday", he also did a good job in "Ali"...
Danny Glover, Oprah Winfrey and few others from "The Color Purple", Angela Bassett and Lawrence Fishburn from "What's Love Got to do with it?" Fishburn was dead on with his portrayal of Ike Turner. Hill Harper for "The Visit", he had a wonderful performance as an inmate afflicted with aids. I also agree Sam Jackson should have got a nod for "Jungle Fever"...Don Cheadle for "Devil in a Blue Dress"...this brother always brings it in whatever he stars in, he just doesn't get the credit he deserves nor does Jeffery Wright.
There are others I can't remember at the moment.
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Posted: Friday November 7th, 2003 23:33 |
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Maybe it was due to politics, but Denzel in Training Day was damn good, I mean i like the guy he is a likeable guy almost in every film, but in Training Day he made me hate his character so's I forgot it was my man Denzel, now that was a powerfull performance and I think he did deserve the oscar although it was surprising he got it for that type of a film.
Now another thing, I want to mention about Halle Berry's acceptance speech, man what the f**k was wrong with her? alright I know its the first time a black woman won and all but the state she was in and the scene she made. What I did not like about it was it took away the glory from Denzel , the fact that she caused that scene , the fact the she as a black women won the oscar as well, man that took a little well a lot away from Denzel big night who rightly deserved it. So for that reason Halle Berry is an idiot, talkin bout how this is good for black people , man she chat sh*t even Denzel said himself it dont mean sh*t for black people man she did not even deserve it and she made an ass of herself. and yes I have seen moster's ball but I also seen Angela Bassett in What's love gotta do with it.
What's black gotta do with it?
I tell you Denzel should of won for Malcolm X,
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Posted: Monday January 22nd, 2007 17:48 |
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CashMoney wrote: I'm sorry but I think that Berry and Denzel won the Oscars due to politics and I feel they were both undeserved. However, there have been some great performances from black actors/actresses that should have been awarded
Samuel L. Best Supporting Actor: JUNGLE FEVER, PULP FICTION
M. Freeman. Best Supporting Actor: SHAWASHANK REDEMPTION
Denzel. Best Actor: MALCOLM X
These are just a few, there must be tons more.
Your thoughts
My thoughts are as follows;
It would be nice if "Whites" were truly "race neutral" when it came to picking films and acting performances. But they are not. They simply lie and pretend that they are. Of course, there are many brilliant performances by Africans that should have been rewarded, but why kid ourselves? It will never happen. Movies about African/African-American Culture(s) just don't have any appeal. "Whites" will fawn all over Asian fantasy movies like "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon", but the truth about the African experience bothers them.
So we need to continue to have our own high standards for our own Cinema. We need to continue to reward great peformances with award shows such as "Essence", "NAACP", etc., etc. We have to make sure that we appreciate Africans who make culturally themed movies for us. If we do not, we cannot then blame them for doing more mainstream material.
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Posted: Monday January 22nd, 2007 19:52 |
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Denzel for The Hurricane (best actor)
Eddy Murphy for The Nutty Professor (best actor)
Ludacris for Crash (best supporting)
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Posted: Tuesday January 23rd, 2007 19:45 |
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Best Actor:
Denzel Washington - Malcolm X, The Hurricane
Chitwetel Ejiofor - Dirty Pretty Things
Cuba Gooding Jr - Boyz n the Hood
Laurence Fishburne - What's Love Got to Do with It
Morgan Freeman - The Shawshank Redemption
Terrence Howard - Hustle & Flow
James Earl Jones - The Great White Hope
Danny Glover - To Sleep with Anger, The Color Purple
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Best Supporting Actor:
Denzel Washington - Cry Freedom
Samuel L Jackson - Jungle Fever, Pulp Fiction
Don Cheadle - Devil in a Blue Dress
Adrian Lester - Primary Colors
Zakes Mokae - The Serpent and the Rainbow
Scatman Crothers - The Shining
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Best Supporting Actress:
Marianne Jean-Baptiste -Secrets and Lies
Halle Berry - Jungle Fever
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Best Actress:
Angela Bassett - What's Love Got to Do with It
Whoopi Goldberg - The Color Purple
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Best Director:
Spike Lee - Do the Right Thing, Summer of Sam, 25th Hour, Malcolm X
John Singleton - Boyz n the Hood
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Posted: Tuesday January 23rd, 2007 20:11 |
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I see this thread has been dragged from the dead. It is quite a naive OP from me
One must consider who did win when dscusiing who you think should win. (e.g) Malcolm X. Pacino won for Scent of a Woman( and the 6 other snubs probably hepled as well). Clint Eastwood and Robert Downey jr were nominated for career best performances in Unforgiven and Chaplin respectively. the outsider was probably Chris Rea in The Crying Game
Check on Wikipedia. They list all the winners.
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Posted: Tuesday January 23rd, 2007 20:11 |
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I see this thread has been dragged from the dead. It is quite a naive OP from me
One must consider who did win when dscusiing who you think should win. (e.g) Malcolm X. Pacino won for Scent of a Woman( and the 6 other snubs probably hepled as well). Clint Eastwood and Robert Downey jr were nominated for career best performances in Unforgiven and Chaplin respectively. the outsider was probably Chris Rea in The Crying Game
Check on Wikipedia. They list all the winners.
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Posted: Tuesday January 23rd, 2007 21:58 |
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you know ur movies but I am not feeling:
Cuba in "Boyz and the Hood"
Adrian Lester in Primary Colours
Zakes Mokae in Serpent and the Rainbow
Samuel L Jackson in Jungle Fever
Halle Berry in Jungle Fever
Denzel Washington in Cry Freedom
Spike Lee for Summer of Sam or 25th Hour
..everything else is spot on.
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Posted: Wednesday January 24th, 2007 18:29 |
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check_check wrote:
@Newstyle
you know ur movies but I am not feeling:
Cuba in "Boyz and the Hood"
Adrian Lester in Primary Colours
Zakes Mokae in Serpent and the Rainbow
Samuel L Jackson in Jungle Fever
Halle Berry in Jungle Fever
Denzel Washington in Cry Freedom
Spike Lee for Summer of Sam or 25th Hour
..everything else is spot on.
Ok I'm pushing it with Adrian Lester ( Don't know how good his accest was!) Denzil also acsent wise and wasn't in the film long enough, then again no was Judy Dench that much in shakespear in Love in which she won the best supporting actress. Ok cuba did look a touch lost sometimes in Boyz, but Sam and Halle in Jungle Fever I feel put in pretty good performances. Zakes the man and is always worth a mention maybe change the film to "The Comedians"? I also think those two Spike Lee films are very underrated.
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Posted: Wednesday January 24th, 2007 21:49 |
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Three that stick out in mind but not alone are,
Best Director:
Spike Lee - Do the Right Thing and Malc X
Best Actor:
Denzel Washington - Malcolm X, The Hurricane
Instead they chose Kevin Spacey in the 'American Beauty' which i honestly thought was a pile of sh*t to put it midly.
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Posted: Wednesday January 24th, 2007 22:12 |
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Oscars won't 'Listen' — Beyonce disqualified in song race
You can not only forget about Beyonce Knowles winning an Oscar for best actress this year. (If you haven't heard, a certain ingenue keeps upstaging her throughout "Dreamgirls.") Now it looks like Beyonce won't win as a songwriter either — for "Listen," one of the original new tunes added to the original Broadway score. Officially, she's listed as one of the song's four writers, but the motion-picture academy only permits three names — max — as a credit. To see the specific language of its Rule 16, click here: http://www.oscars.org/79academyawards/rules/rule16.html The Oscars' songwriting branch has decided to qualify Henry Krieger, Anne Preven and Scott Cutler. No explanation is given for why Beyonce is excluded over the others. Is this just one of those cases of where the singer insisted upon having her name added to credits as part of her performance deal? Beyonce says "No!" In media interviews, she's often said that she was truly involved in its songwriting. Apparently, not to the extent as her three collaborators.
Take heart, Beyonce fans. Not only is she nominated in the actress race at the Globes, but she'll be among the people who share the credit for "Listen" if it wins best song there.
http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldde...l.html#comments
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Posted: Wednesday January 24th, 2007 23:13 |
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Off topic slightly, but watched Paul Verhoeven "Black Books" recently which was excellent. Oddly enought, it would make the perfect companion piece to Spike's Inside Man - they are both about wartime thievery and exploitation. In fact i it is better to watch Spike's film first and then Verhoeven, it would give an eerie but good feel about that history "experienced" retroactively, and it would show off spike casting of Chris Plummer as being spot on. They are both great films about greed and exploitation.
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Posted: Thursday January 25th, 2007 18:46 |
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check_check wrote: Off topic slightly, but watched Paul Verhoeven "Black Books" recently which was excellent. Oddly enought, it would make the perfect companion piece to Spike's Inside Man - they are both about wartime thievery and exploitation. In fact i it is better to watch Spike's film first and then Verhoeven, it would give an eerie but good feel about that history "experienced" retroactively, and it would show off spike casting of Chris Plummer as being spot on. They are both great films about greed and exploitation.
Sounds interesting, good to see that old pervert Paul Verhoven has rediscovered his touch
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Posted: Thursday January 25th, 2007 20:33 |
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| Don't be too hard of Verhoeven. He just likes to bring a touch of Northern Europen raunchinessto hollywood. There is, as expected, nudity in this one as well with a flash of the now infamous verhoeven beaver shot....the heroine is sitting on a chair putting blonde hair dye on her crotch when in walks one of her admirers. Cue some playful crossing of legs and hiding of beaver...its a funny homage to that scene in basic instinct.
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Posted: Monday January 29th, 2007 07:36 |
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Who deserves oscars and did not get one?
This is not restricted to Black Actors or Actresses.
Peter O'Toole
Richard Burton
Richard Harris
None won an oscar.All of them quality actors.
Halle Berry and Denzil Washington won oscar for mediocre roles and performances.
Certainly:
Forrest Whitiker deserves one for Best Actor (Last King of Scotland)
and Jennifer Hudson Best supporting actor (Dream Girls) That girl blow me a way with her performance brilliant.
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Posted: Tuesday January 30th, 2007 18:43 |
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i was amazed o'toole didnt win for lawrence of arabia
he might win this time but forest is gonna be hard to stop
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Posted: Sunday February 4th, 2007 15:32 |
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That's the problem cashmoney He should have won one for LOA but if he was to win one now for his lastest film it would rob Forest like he was robbed.
Look at Burton................It's incrediable that he never got one, either he was severely robbed or the talent in thoses days was supreme!!!
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Posted: Monday February 5th, 2007 13:05 |
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After seeing Last King of Scotland I would be OK with Forest not winning
He was really good but he werent as unbeleivable as was made out imo
I'm actually surprised that McAvoy ddint get a bit of love in terms of nominations. I really thought he did well , not as well as Fores but well enough to get at least a GG nomination
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I am going to have to agree with you. McAvoy was good in his role and without forest being in it, he should have been in askance for a nomination, but I am going to have to say that forest literally and metphorically "overshadowed" him.
And I'll have to admit to being prejudice and nominate him for being a good Black Actor that should get his dues, The crying game, ghost dog ...........McAvoy is young there will be other roles 
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Posted: Wednesday February 28th, 2007 18:17 |
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Denzel for The Hurricane.
Larry Fishburne and Ice Cube best actor/supporting actor Boyz in da Hood.
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Posted: Thursday March 1st, 2007 03:57 |
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In my opinion the following were hugely overlooked
- Halle Berry - Their eyes were watching God
- Angela Bassett - What's love got to do with it
- Angela Bassett - How Stella got her groove back
- Morgan Freeman - Shawshank Redemption
- Morgan Freeman - Long kiss goodnight
- Samuel L Jackson - Jungle Fever
- Samuel L Jackson - Pulp Fiction
- Eddie Murphy - Beverly Hills cop
- Denzel Washington - Ricochet
- Wesley Snipes - New Jack City
- Whoopi Goldberg - Sister Act
- Martin Lawrence - Big momma's house
- Eddie Murphy - coming to America
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was just gonna say, Samuel Jackson in Jungle Fever - to this day the lines how blackmen with white women never have a penthouse b!tch but a white man with a black woman "I G-U-A-R-A-N-T-E-E you she'd be slammin! pow! pow!"
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Posted: Friday March 16th, 2007 19:16 |
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Footprints wrote: In my opinion the following were hugely overlooked
- Halle Berry - Their eyes were watching God
- Angela Bassett - What's love got to do with it
- Angela Bassett - How Stella got her groove back
- Morgan Freeman - Shawshank Redemption
- Morgan Freeman - Long kiss goodnight
- Samuel L Jackson - Jungle Fever
- Samuel L Jackson - Pulp Fiction
- Eddie Murphy - Beverly Hills cop
- Denzel Washington - Ricochet
- Wesley Snipes - New Jack City
- Whoopi Goldberg - Sister Act
- Martin Lawrence - Big momma's house
- Eddie Murphy - coming to America
Eyes Were Watching God was not released in theaters.
Martin Lawrence and Oscar will never be in the same sentence.
Same with Wesley
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| Jada Pinkett should have won Best Actress for Set it Off.
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Posted: Friday March 23rd, 2007 18:28 |
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Burning Spear wrote: Footprints wrote: In my opinion the following were hugely overlooked
- Halle Berry - Their eyes were watching God
- Angela Bassett - What's love got to do with it
- Angela Bassett - How Stella got her groove back
- Morgan Freeman - Shawshank Redemption
- Morgan Freeman - Long kiss goodnight
- Samuel L Jackson - Jungle Fever
- Samuel L Jackson - Pulp Fiction
- Eddie Murphy - Beverly Hills cop
- Denzel Washington - Ricochet
- Wesley Snipes - New Jack City
- Whoopi Goldberg - Sister Act
- Martin Lawrence - Big momma's house
- Eddie Murphy - coming to America
Eyes Were Watching God was not released in theaters.
Martin Lawrence and Oscar will never be in the same sentence.
Same with Wesley
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Dijmon Hounsou-Armistad or Black Diamonds
Chitwetel Eljifor- Pretty Things
Angela Bassett-What's Love Got To Do With It
Laurence Fishbourne- Othello
Thandi Newton-Beloved
Samuel L. Jackson-Driving Miss Daisy or Time To Kill
Morgan Freeman.... Pick one.
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Posted: Saturday May 5th, 2007 15:56 |
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BLOCK THE PERV PLEASE MODS!!! 
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Posted: Wednesday May 16th, 2007 23:48 |
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i laughed for few minutes when i saw someone say martin lawrence shouldve won AN OSCAR FOR BEST ACTOR for big mommas house.
that was some good sh*t. (your dream).
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Posted: Saturday June 9th, 2007 17:54 |
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If you look real hard, you can see an Oscar nominated actor from back in the day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3AyKLRT4M4
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