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Posted: Tuesday October 21st, 2003 19:30 |
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 Would someone be so kind as to explain what the Matrix is. The rest of the film makes so much sense but when Morphius explains what it is to Neo, I get lost, somewhere in the matrix I reckon (lol no being silly!!)
So could someone who knows, tell me what it is. I am refering to the first movie.
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Posted: Friday October 24th, 2003 04:42 |
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does no one know?
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Posted: Friday October 24th, 2003 12:15 |
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Do you want to know about The Matrix...or the BN Matrix!!! 
- Essentially, The Matrix is the computer program that creates what you and I perceive as "the real world". I think that's it in a nutshell. Btw, this is one of my all-time favourite movies so if you have any more questions, fire away!
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Posted: Friday October 24th, 2003 19:32 |
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@ Happiness and Chique
The Matrix seems to be Hesaid fav aswell ain't none of you seen the brother go off on one I think his the oracles father. By the way Chique whats up ain't you got the dime to spare to ask Hesaid......if your a little short I can lend you a few pennies just in case Happiness charges more.....we got to support our young students for they are the future..........
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Posted: Saturday October 25th, 2003 18:56 |
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Thankyou Mafdet and Happiness.
Yes i think i may ask hesaid too. Good idea! And i got another question brewing for him but its half term this week so got plenty of time to catch up on my posts.
Do u know that every time i hear the word Matrix, in whatever context, i instantly develop a brain block. Its after watchin the film many times and being totally puzzed about what on earth it is!! Even finding it hard to take it in by the description. And then when i hear it in a biology class or about black net i am totally fizzled! Think i will look it up in the dictionary some time. Got a big, good one 4 me birthady so yes might utilise it 4 this purpose, amongst others!
Thankyou sisters.
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Posted: Monday October 27th, 2003 14:09 |
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@ Chique - what exactly dont u get?
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Posted: Saturday November 8th, 2003 10:26 |
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OK so the computer programme creates what we percieve as the real world. So is that ship that the ppl are on, the real world? I just dont geddet!! He takes Neo to that place and says this is the real world and its all burnt and broken and dead. Whats that all about? And where do they do all those things like the jump and where the hell do they go to get to places like when they fly the hellicopter. 
I dont understand!
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Posted: Saturday November 8th, 2003 19:18 |
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Okay boo.
ARE YOU READY?
VERY DEEP!!!
Everytime you see them dressed in designer wear they are
in the program (computer program) everyone else apart from
those in zion remain there forever with no consciousness of
a world outside,as though we were born on the internet and
we have no experience of the outside world(soon to come)
What Neo was shown was the way that humans are manufactured
and put into this pod from birth (the same one which he was
unplugged for the first time from)now this to most Matrix
lovers is similar to real life today just like Morpheus
said:
"The matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy.
But when you're inside, you look around. What do you see.
Business men, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of
the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people
are still a part of that system, and that makes them our enemy.
You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to
be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly
dependant on the system that they will fight to protect it. Were
you listening to me Neo, or were you looking at the woman in
the red dress?
and then theres comments based on the systems fabricated
norm like "In Stars kissing on stage comment":
honest guy:
Theres absolutly nothing wrong with lesbianism. Hell if I had it my way i'd make it compulsary for you to be involved with 2 or more women and a least 1 guy (doesn't apply if you are a guy) by the time your 18! Doesn't matter if your male or female the same rule would apply.
Thoses girls were being role models. the problem is they wern't setting the kind of example that you aprove of..... well you can't please everybody, so why try. Id LOVE to hear what any Lesbians have to say.
and:
"I dont see sex as a colour thing...if both partners are sexually explosive in bed then you get an eruption!! I do see sex as a joint effort. I hear the same complaint from a lot of men:
No offence just making a point.
People have been so lead to a life of TV entertainment
that their principles are rhetorical designer jargon
that has found a home in our subconscious mind and is
regurgitated unaware of its origin.
Morpheus again:
The very minds of
the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people
are still a part of that system, and that makes them our enemy.
You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to
be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly
dependant on the system that they will fight to protect it.
There are those of us who know there is an agenda
(unplugged) with entertainment and conveniently PROGRAMS.
(If you look on this site even you can see who's who)
yet others do not have a clue or even analyse the simple
use of words.
Neo on a Spiritual level is all of us
blinded from birth to nno longer no our purpose
and origin look how long the thread you started
in reference to race goes on for, indeed we
have lost ourselves. Anyway he wakes up to realise
that fear is his enemy therefore he is his own
nme and when he changes his mind state he achieves.
Interestingly the mind is truly where all things
become manifest so if the mind (which most people
dont know is the Soul)is given up from birth (as
our parents trust the government to school their
children)then your morals and ethics will be geared
towards failure and living below your potential.
A slave as Morpheus put it.
Notice how Agents can turn into the people, the
symbol that because they built their minds they
can manipulate them DEEP.
You asked on another thread "What spoon?"
The spoon represents the fact that its all
just control of the mind and because your
mind makes these things manifest there really
actually is'nt anything but what you percieve.
(Oh chique girl you gonna learn suppen today)
I'd rather say "It's your movie"
Your the director and the Star but if your
not conscious of this you play the victim.
This is why Fear is thrown out through the media
911, War, destruction, violence, its all to keep
you in place as a helpless slave.Look at how
Bin Liner is used to send the weak minded patriots in a
panic to the point that they agree to send thier
children out to defend they're country when the
[censoredword]ry(sorry) was never in danger.
..anyway its a lesson in self mastery and politics
for those who see but you really have to see it
a few times
NOW go back and watch it again.
It was you on my computer. How did you do that?
Hesaid: Right now all I can tell you is that you're in danger.
I brought you here to warn you.
Chique: Of what?
Hesaid: They're watching you, Neo.
Chique: Who is?
Hesaid: Please just listen. I know why you're here, Chique. I know
what you've been doing. I know why you hardly sleep, why you
live alone, and why night after night you sit at your computer.
You're looking for him. I know, because I was once looking for
the same thing. And when he found me, he told me I wasn't really
looking for him. I was looking for an answer. It's the question
that drives us mad. It's the question that brought you here. You
know the question just as I did.
Chique: What is the Matrix.
Hesaid: The answer is out there. It's looking for you. And
it will find you, if you want it to.
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Posted: Saturday November 8th, 2003 20:21 |
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@ HS - simplify your answer because if she really doesn't understand the concept of the Matrix world vs the real world, I think your explantion will be more confusing
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Posted: Sunday November 9th, 2003 03:21 |
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True dat
Errmm uuhh
I cant,I'll come back to it!
Hey Happiness
Is your flag is pulsating?
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Posted: Sunday November 9th, 2003 08:59 |
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@Hesaid
My brother my brother when I saw you was going to respond to Chique I said to myself oh my days this is going to be interesting, since I called your name into this thread When I read your reply I thought oh my days my poor girl Chique.
Bro me thinks you got a little excited in the question being about the matrix you forgot about who or why the question was being asked as observed by Happiness. All in all I have to say your style of writing and your humour gives me some of the best laughs on this forum you are unique I give you that, you were absolutely out of your mind on this one, but I love it all the same
Over to you sister Happiness.......no doubt you have more work to do now after that little ....cough ......cough....... explanation from Hesaid.
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Posted: Sunday November 9th, 2003 13:33 |
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@ Chique...let me try......
ok "matrix" in non- movie terms usually refers to something that forms a system, framework or a pattern for something else to exist. People sometimes refer to the womb as a "matrix" and using the previous explanation, you can see why.
As far as the movie goes, using the above explanation, you can say that The Matrix is something (in this case a program) which forms a system/framework/pattern (in this case programming codes) for a certain reality to exist. In this case the reality is refered to as the Matrix or the Construct World.
some background stuff: humans created machines (computers) which led to the birth of artificial intelligence and the AI wanted equality with humans which led to a war between humans and AI. In order to win, the humans scorched the sky thus removing the AI's power source(the sun).....so the AI found another power source: humans beings.
But the AI had to keep the minds of the humans occupied in order to harvest their physical bodies for their energy power. So, the AI created a massive software program that created an interactive reality based on earth as it was before the sky was scorched; then the human brain was "wired" into this software program and humans "lived" their lives much like you and I do. The humans were born, went to school etc...went to work, got married, had babies etc....and eventually died...all the while not knowing that their lives were nothing more than a simulated reality. A software program. A virtual reality life lived within The Matrix.
However, there were those humans who were so self-aware (or enlightened) that they were able to mentally "unplug" themselves from the Matrix program and they came to realise that the Real world was actually a desolate place without light (because the sun has been scorched) and in which AI (machines) ruled and humans were kept mentally enslaved and imprisoned in the Matrix so that their physical bodies could be harvested for power.
Now, chique, the ship you refered to is in the Real World but from the ship the human rebels are able to hack into The Matrix and infiltrate the Virtual World. Just their minds go there but because they understand that this is just a computer s/w and that nothing is real, they are able to manipulate The Matrix and do extraordinary things hence the fighting which defies logic and gravity..amongst other things....but they can only do this in the Matrix...not in the Real world (because the laws of physics still hold in th Real World)
Chique, Im tired. tell me u understand so far and we will continue tomorrow!
Later.
Last edited on Sunday November 9th, 2003 20:40 by Happiness
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Posted: Sunday November 9th, 2003 13:41 |
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Hesaid wrote:
True dat
Errmm uuhh
I cant,I'll come back to it!
Hey Happiness
Is your flag is pulsating?
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LOL!!! My flag is doing whatever u say its doing!!!
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Posted: Monday November 10th, 2003 21:38 |
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My son and I watched Matrix Reloaded on DVD Saturday night, and I've since been reading the reviews for the last in the Trilogy. Unfortunately the reviews are not good but then I try not to be influenced by other people's opinions..... For me, Reloaded was ok, excellent graphics, spfx but the script was poor in places and I felt that the films was "padded" out with fight scenes and not much in the way of content. Which apparently is the general opinion of "Revolution". Anyway, I'm still gonna go see it on the big screen and take things from there.
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Posted: Tuesday November 11th, 2003 05:07 |
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| Saw Revolutions on Saturday and apart from a few moments the film SUCKED!!! I heard it was nothing to rave about but it was unforgetable IMO.
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Posted: Tuesday November 11th, 2003 07:07 |
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AQ:Exellent summary
Prince:Your summary was spot on too
it just lacked the dimensions of the first one
which I ecpected, the decline in reloaded was'nt
that bad but as AQ said it hid behind the action
but Revolution was (and it pains me to say it)
the essense of fresh Diarrhea.
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Posted: Wednesday November 12th, 2003 09:45 |
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You are all so kind to sit down and type all that out 4 me. I am gonna print both ur descriptions off and read them becuase this comp is not the easiest of places to read and absorb lengthy information!!!!
I will be back, hopefully with a totally new understang of the matrix.
Thankyou Happiness, Hesaid and Mafdet.
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Posted: Sunday January 4th, 2004 21:53 |
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Hesaid. I know you are a matrix lover and I have had this web site lined up for u for ages. I dont know where to put it and know that u will find it. I dont know which pages u check regulary. I put it here in hope so let me know when u find it.
It was remommnded to my by a Muslim friend of mine and although I have not read it all yet, its highly recommended and I am told its very interesting - so naturally I thought of Hesaid. Let me know what u think.
http://www.harunyahya.com/matrix02a.php
ps: I watched the film again the other day and it finally all makes sense! Thankyou for ur efforts Hesaid, Happiness and Maffy. Much appreciated. Its a very good film. I kinda wish it was true!!
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Posted: Monday January 5th, 2004 12:02 |
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THank u Chique for starting this thread. I myself was confused by the matrix, i understood parts of it but i did not understand it in its entirety (have only seen the 1st one). Understood both HeSaid and Happiness' posts (though Happiness' was easier to grasp 1st hand!)
THank u.
@mafdet-where u been?
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Posted: Sunday January 18th, 2004 06:27 |
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thank you chique thats some hot sh*t im
downloading it now.
Oops  forgot how old you were
better let go of you before
The last Samurai a mean Mafdet
comes back.
LOL
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Posted: Sunday January 18th, 2004 06:46 |
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Thank you blackbeauty.
Your deep to overstand my crazy metaphorical
references.
I like you.
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Posted: Sunday January 18th, 2004 06:50 |
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Well done Chique
Kareem needs to peep this as well
since he said he did'nt see what all
the fuss about Matrix was.
That is so Ironic that its from a Quranic
perspective.
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@Chique
Your welcome :-)
@Black Beauty
I am here now :-)
@Hesaid
Put my cyber baby down NOW...I got me some new swords/blades....watch it. :-<
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Posted: Sunday January 18th, 2004 07:49 |
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Uh oh shes back im out!
OH my GOD what a Book!
Lifechanging!
Chique where did you come from?
How old are you again?
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Posted: Sunday January 18th, 2004 09:19 |
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Hesaid:
Yes I like blackbeauty too. Wondering where she's gone tho. She hasn't been around for a while I think. Correct me if I'm wrong girl.
@Hesaid
Put my cyber baby down NOW...I got me some new swords/blades....watch it. :-<
Be afraid - very afraid
ROTFLMAO. Hesaid I came from - well u know where I came from. And I am currently 19 years and 8 months. Hmmmm thats got me thinking now - how old r u?
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