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Posted: Saturday May 28th, 2005 00:18 |
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Posted: Saturday May 28th, 2005 11:58 |
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| I dont understand the matrix from reloaded onwards.
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Posted: Saturday May 28th, 2005 12:43 |
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Guess I'm the only person who thinks they're a load of trash.
Anyone else think the movies 'ain't all dat!'?
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Posted: Saturday May 28th, 2005 21:26 |
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man dont let me slap u with this fish
bout matrix is a load of trash...
just say u dont understand it...
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Posted: Saturday May 28th, 2005 23:04 |
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Now how the Jiminy Jilikers you gonna say I don't understand it? I do, I really do. I can't be bothered to do it right now, but i'll come back and explain myself.
I just think the Wachowski bros have got a rod up they ass, they believed there own hype.
Buy yeah I'll come back to this one.
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Posted: Saturday May 28th, 2005 23:44 |
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Posted: Sunday May 29th, 2005 00:31 |
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mmm ok
as you all can tell..
i love the matrix...
what are
your favourite acton scenes..
and fav dialogues
found in the matrix trilogy
and why?
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Posted: Sunday May 29th, 2005 08:44 |
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Morpheus (before giving the red pill):
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This IS how I have actually felt all of my life.
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Posted: Sunday May 29th, 2005 09:18 |
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The ship in MATRIX RELOADED was the LOGOS. Logos is translated as "Word" at the beginning of the Gospel of John but that translation is at best incomplete. The word LOGIC is derived from LOGOS.
Maybe Mr. Spock was a better Christian than most Christians.
What is Gnosis/Knowledge?
"The danger facing humanity requires getting beyond the usual mind or self sense. Political action, social programs, humanitarian work and so forth are good, but not enough. Only transformed consciousness can transform the world. The ultimate action then, is no action at all except to change consciousness." (1)
"Gnostic," from the Greek term gnosis, means factual knowledge, specifically knowledge about the logos/logic of God. Gnostic Christianity is not about Jesus' public teachings; it is about the gnosis, or practical knowledge, that Jesus taught in private.
The private teachings of Jesus are mentioned in Mark 4:10-12, 4:33-34; Matthew 13:10-11, 13:34; and Luke 8:9-10.
In Mk 4:33-34 jbv, for example, Mark said: "Using many parables…he [Jesus] spoke the word* [again, meaning the logic or reasoning of God]…so far as they [the general public] were capable of understanding it. He would not speak to them except in parables, but explained everything to his disciples when they were alone." In Rm 1:9-14, Paul explains that "pneumatic truth [Jesus' logos/logic teachings] cannot be communicated by means of written documents but only through oral communication. For this reason, the apostle says 'we [Gnostics] speak wisdom [Jesus' Christ or logic teachings] among the initiates (teleioi [perfect], 1Cor 2:16) and to them only 'in secret', since most people remain incapable of receiving it."
Scholars refer to Jesus' private teachings as his "logos," logic or oral tradition. Mystics refer to those teachings as Jesus' lost or secret teachings. The important thing to remember about Jesus' public and private teachings is that both are his. Jesus used his public teachings to inspire us, through mystical awe and spiritual insight, to love one another. He used his private/Gnostic teachings to provide us with the foundations for a nonjudgmental system of logic that makes it reasonable for us to relate ideas in ways we now think of as spiritual and loving. |
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Posted: Sunday May 29th, 2005 17:42 |
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umbrarchist wrote: Morpheus (before giving the red pill):
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This IS how I have actually felt all of my life.
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that dialogue between morpheus and neo... before he took the pill is one of my fav parts...
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Posted: Sunday May 29th, 2005 19:38 |
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well my thought on the whole matrix triology is thatI think the (Wackowsky brothers or who ever came up with the script if it was really that black lady) used the bible and story of Christ, and twisted it up with similar relating stories to greek, roman, egypt myths and mythology etc and all that, including, literature, fairytale and other parts of popular culture even hiphop to make a movie.
the main end theme of Matrix Revolutions the final movie, you can clearly see that Neo was compared to jesus and sheds his blood for all mankind. same as the bible and jesus. thats pretty much it really as far as i can tell.kinda like a modernized christ story or whatever you wana call it.
besides i think the name third eye would have been a better name for the movie, if it was that black lady that really wrote it. maybe that explains why they got alotta black folks in that movie for some kinda compensation. or in other sense as some once said i think on this forum or maybe not. it could be a movie telling black people to wake up. it all has some hidding agendas it hard to grasp them all anyways. everone has thier own theories. all the same cool movie and one of my favorite movies ever, but the final movie was disapointing. the action scence in realoded was of the hook, but by the final movie i had seen all the tricks.
(of topic)
lord of the rings final movie however did not disapoint.
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Posted: Sunday May 29th, 2005 23:47 |
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finally someone who recognises .. relaoded was amazing...
revolutions was a let down...
i was completely bown away by the fight scenes ...
particularly when he fought those guys in the great hall...sleek
and love the dialogue
eg.
the restaurant scene with the Meriovingin: ...
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Meriovingin: But do you? You think you do but you do not. You are here because you were sent here, you were told to come here and you obeyed. [Laughs] It is, of course, the way of all things. You see, there is only one constant, one universal, it is the only real truth: causality. Action. Reaction. Cause and effect.
Morpheus: Everything begins with choice.
Meriovingin: No. Wrong. Choice is an illusion, created between those with power, and those without.
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brilliant
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Posted: Monday May 30th, 2005 14:44 |
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