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http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2007-03-08-frog-princess_N.htm?csp=34
This release could go a couple of ways
A stereotyped black princess (from Harlem)
Your archetypal white princes just painted black
Or a realistical black princess with stereotypical animalistic sidekicks ala dumbo the crows singing “ I see a elephant fly�
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Posted: Saturday March 10th, 2007 13:35 |
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Posted: Saturday March 10th, 2007 14:32 |
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It sounds like a long wait though, 2009.
Mar 10, 2007
Disney's newest princess
For the new film "The Frog Princess," Walt Disney will introduce its first black princess. » What's her name?
DISNEY'S 2009 ANIMATED RELEASE "THE FROG PRINCESS" TAPS INTO STUDIO'S RICH FAIRY TALE LEGACY
OSCAR-WINNER RANDY NEWMAN TEAMS UP WITH ACCLAIMED VETERAN DIRECTORS MUSKER & CLEMENTS
NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana – (March 8, 2007) -- The Walt Disney Studios will continue its fairy tale legacy in animation by taking moviegoers on an all-new "once upon a time" musical adventure with its 2009 release of "The Frog Princess," it was announced today by Dick Cook, chairman of The Walt Disney Studios, and John Lasseter, chief creative officer for Disney and Pixar Animation Studios. A musical set in the legendary birthplace of jazz – New Orleans -- "The Frog Princess" will introduce the newest Disney princess, Maddy, a young African-American girl living amid the charming elegance and grandeur of the fabled French Quarter. From the heart of Louisiana's mystical bayous and the banks of the mighty Mississippi comes an unforgettable tale of love, enchantment and discovery with a soulful singing crocodile, voodoo spells and Cajun charm at every turn.
"The Frog Princess" is based on an original story written by Disney's acclaimed filmmaking duo John Musker & Ron Clements ("The Little Mermaid," "Aladdin," "Hercules"), who will also direct. Oscar®-winning songwriter/composer and New Orleans native Randy Newman ("Toy Story," "A Bug's Life," "Toy Story 2," "Monsters, Inc." and "Cars") will write songs and the score for this project. Peter Del Vecho, a 12-year Disney animation veteran, will produce.
Commenting on the announcement from The Walt Disney Company's 2007 Annual Meeting of shareholders, Cook said, "We're pleased to be here in the heart of New Orleans to announce 'The Frog Princess,' a great story with all the ingredients that go into making an extraordinary motion picture experience. Like many of Disney's most popular fairy tales, it has elements of magic, fantasy, adventure, heart, humor, and music. The film's New Orleans setting and strong princess character give the film lots of excitement and texture. We're also thrilled to have John Musker, Ron Clements and Randy Newman lending their talents and creative energies to this project. John and Ron helped to usher in Disney's second golden age of animation nearly two decades ago with 'The Little Mermaid,' and are on track to create the Studio's next great fairy tale adventure."
John Lasseter added, "Aside from being longtime friends and colleagues, John and Ron are two of the most influential and imaginative filmmakers in the animation medium, and I am so excited to be working with them in bringing their creative vision
for 'The Frog Princess' to the big screen. They've come up with an original story that is deeply rooted in the fairy tale tradition, and it's filled with great humor, emotion, and musical moments. Randy Newman brings fun and excitement to every project, and I couldn't think of a better choice to deliver some wonderful New Orleans style music."
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Posted: Monday March 12th, 2007 14:06 |
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mike pain wrote: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2007-03-08-frog-princess_N.htm?csp=34
This release could go a couple of ways
A stereotyped black princess (from Harlem)
Your archetypal white princes just painted black
Or a realistical black princess with stereotypical animalistic sidekicks ala dumbo the crows singing “ I see a elephant fly�
What is a stereotyped Black princess from Harlem? The Film is set in New Orleans.
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Who cares about this.
Disney has no problem portraying everybody else's historical greatness except Africans - why not do something based on an ancient African kingdom?
"Your archetypal white princes just painted black" - for real. Just looking at the drawing it's pain to see that this "princess" was drawn with european features. It may as well be a cartoon about Barbie for all I give a toss.
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Prince Hakeem wrote: Who cares about this.
Disney has no problem portraying everybody else's historical greatness except Africans - why not do something based on an ancient African kingdom?
"Your archetypal white princes just painted black" - for real. Just looking at the drawing it's pain to see that this "princess" was drawn with european features. It may as well be a cartoon about Barbie for all I give a toss.
Because Disney is an American company.I'm glad our young girls will have something to look at that reflects them.
Hell if it was set in an African kingdom folks will moan about that.
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Burning Spear wrote: Prince Hakeem wrote: Who cares about this.
Disney has no problem portraying everybody else's historical greatness except Africans - why not do something based on an ancient African kingdom?
"Your archetypal white princes just painted black" - for real. Just looking at the drawing it's pain to see that this "princess" was drawn with european features. It may as well be a cartoon about Barbie for all I give a toss.
Because Disney is an American company.I'm glad our young girls will have something to look at that reflects them.
Hell if it was set in an African kingdom folks will moan about that.
Hell if it was an African Kingdom folks wouldn't moan about that.
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Posted: Wednesday March 14th, 2007 07:09 |
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Prince Hakeem wrote:
Disney has no problem portraying everybody else's historical greatness except Africans - why not do something based on an ancient African kingdom?
Because, everyone knows that our history didn't start until they rescued mine and your ancestors from those uncivilized barbarian savages in Africa. Our Heros
are punk ass rappers, dope dealers basketball players and ho's. I thought you knew Prince Hakeem.
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Posted: Wednesday March 14th, 2007 13:48 |
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Prince Hakeem wrote: Burning Spear wrote: Prince Hakeem wrote: Who cares about this.
Disney has no problem portraying everybody else's historical greatness except Africans - why not do something based on an ancient African kingdom?
"Your archetypal white princes just painted black" - for real. Just looking at the drawing it's pain to see that this "princess" was drawn with european features. It may as well be a cartoon about Barbie for all I give a toss.
Because Disney is an American company.I'm glad our young girls will have something to look at that reflects them.
Hell if it was set in an African kingdom folks will moan about that.
Hell if it was an African Kingdom folks wouldn't moan about that.
Yes we would !
We would complain because the writer would likley be non-black and wouldnt 'understand' the culture/struggle.
If the accents were supposedly 'off' we would complain about that as well. Which leads on to my next point
No doubt there will be anti-African American sentiments as well if they took up most/all of the voice jobs
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Posted: Thursday March 15th, 2007 00:46 |
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Huh, this isnt African American history. This story makes absolutly no sense, theres no "princesses" in America let alone in New Orleans, we dont practice voodoo, and what black parent names thier daughter Maddy?
Id rather see something about slavery or katrina spun into a love story..I respect what thier trying to do but the whole story as it is sounds retarted.
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impactplayer wrote: Huh, this isnt African American history. This story makes absolutly no sense, theres no "princesses" in America let alone in New Orleans, we dont practice voodoo, and what black parent names thier daughter Maddy?
Id rather see something about slavery or katrina spun into a love story..I respect what thier trying to do but the whole story as it is sounds retarted.
Voodoo is practiced in some parts of New Orleans and I don't think that she's actually a princess in that sense. Anyway jazz is a part of AA history and if they highlight that then that's a good thing. Also black parents name their children all kinds of things, lol, so I don't think Maddy is so farfetched.
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Posted: Thursday March 15th, 2007 04:23 |
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in America let alone in New Orleans, we dont practice voodoo, and what black parent names thier daughter Maddy?
If you really believe that, then please heed this warniing and I am being very serious. If you are down there and a single woman offers you spaghetti or any dish with red sauce in it do not eat it.
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Voodoo is practiced in some parts of New Orleans and I don't think that she's actually a princess in that sense. Anyway jazz is a part of AA history and if they highlight that then that's a good thing. Also black parents name their children all kinds of things, lol, so I don't think Maddy is so farfetched.
MADdy is billed as being a literal princess in 1920's America, and I dont care how much Voodoo is practiced its not representative of blacks and that bothers me more than anything. Voodoo is not seen in a good light here at all, its like theyre trying to make us complain.How come all the other princess get pretty names but we get this frog princess named "MADdy". MADdy is farfetched, its a dogs name.
I rather have this film cancelled than have my people humiliated.
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Voodoo is practiced in some parts of New Orleans and I don't think that she's actually a princess in that sense. Anyway jazz is a part of AA history and if they highlight that then that's a good thing. Also black parents name their children all kinds of things, lol, so I don't think Maddy is so farfetched.
MADdy is billed as being a literal princess in 1920's America, and I dont care how much Voodoo is practiced its not representative of blacks and that bothers me more than anything. Voodoo is not seen in a good light here at all, its like theyre trying to make us complain.How come all the other princess get pretty names but we get this frog princess named "MADdy". MADdy is farfetched, its a dogs name.
I rather have this film cancelled than have my people humiliated.
Well according to Disney she's a chambermaid, okay. Where did you get princess from that? And where does it say that they are using Voodoo to represent all African Americans? They're not even using it to represent black people in New Orleans. Voodoo comes in because her "fairy godmother" is a voodoo priestess and the villain of the story is an evil voodoo master. They're showing both positive and negative aspects of Voodoo. And some black mothers will name their kids after all kinds of things. The singer Brandy is apparently named after her family dog. I think Maddy is a cute name, probably a short form of Madeline or something so get off your high horse.
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impactplayer wrote: Huh, this isnt African American history. This story makes absolutly no sense, theres no "princesses" in America let alone in New Orleans, we dont practice voodoo, and what black parent names thier daughter Maddy?
Id rather see something about slavery or katrina spun into a love story..I respect what thier trying to do but the whole story as it is sounds retarted.
I take it you've never been to the American south. Voodoo or hodoo was and still is practiced in Loiusiana and parts of Alabama and coastal South Carolina.Ever hear of the Gullah Islands?
Also, why are you knocking it ?It as not been relaised yet.I mean why would you do a musical on slavery? or Katrina? That's asinine.The jazz period seems as good as any other time period.
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| why are we discussing this shyte????? wgaf what crap Diss-ney is flogging now?
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I take it you've never been to the American south. Voodoo or hodoo was and still is practiced in Loiusiana and parts of Alabama and coastal South Carolina.Ever hear of the Gullah Islands?
You acting like Im supposed to have a Phd in Louisianaology, I couldnt give two drops a piss about the dump and since when did parts of Lousiana represent the entire south?.Okay so voodoo is somewhat popular in NO, they even have a AFL team named voodoo but the south is called the bible belt for a reason. I guess it dosent matter because its not like im going to watch it anyway..The movie is narrowly targeted at little black girls, they couldnt even put a black prince in there for the boys.
I mean why would you do a musical on slavery? or Katrina? That's asinine.The jazz period seems as good as any other time period.
Asinine? and this nonsensical pile of frog princess sh*t isnt lol..Hey, dont knock the slavery love story idea thats our history. If it was tastefully done id be first in line to see that.
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I take it you've never been to the American south. Voodoo or hodoo was and still is practiced in Loiusiana and parts of Alabama and coastal South Carolina.Ever hear of the Gullah Islands?
You acting like Im supposed to have a Phd in Louisianaology, I couldnt give two drops a piss about the dump and since when did parts of Lousiana represent the entire south?.Okay so voodoo is somewhat popular in NO, they even have a AFL team named voodoo but the south is called the bible belt for a reason. I guess it dosent matter because its not like im going to watch it anyway..The movie is narrowly targeted at little black girls, they couldnt even put a black prince in there for the boys.
I mean why would you do a musical on slavery? or Katrina? That's asinine.The jazz period seems as good as any other time period.
Asinine? and this nonsensical pile of frog princess sh*t isnt lol..Hey, dont knock the slavery love story idea thats our history. If it was tastefully done id be first in line to see that.
Your talking out the sided of your ass. Knocking the south but looking for a tastefully done love story between slaves!!!
Its been done.Called Sankofa.
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I think the main problem is that for the most part Afro-American culture varies very little from what Whites living in the same area would. So in that case, producers are often forced to use sterotypical cliches' to get the piont across that this is suppose to represent Black Americans.
The voodoo part is OBVIOUSLY one of these "cliches" that they are using in the story line to try to make her clearly "black" even though AA people, even the ones in New Orleans are overwhelmingly Protestant. The empahasis on Jazz I can see, it started in New Orleans and worked its way up north to Harlem- it was very popular amongst different AA people nationwide. Voodoo however, has only had a handful of participants and has always been frowned upon by the larger society.
I'm trying to become excited about this project, because its the step in the right directions but I also wouldn't want to take any child of mine to a cartoon rule of cooning and other horrible racial sterotypes!
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there are tons of Black, Latin and other.....companies that produce high quality animation and films for those that want to show their children things they can relate to.
it's the interent age..if you are interested in finding something...it can be found.
It's not Disney's job to validate us.....we validate ourselves...
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I just joined BNVillage, so I could contribute my 2 cents to this discussion. I'm writing you from the citadel of distortion and deception. No, not Washington, D. C.,.....but Hollywood. Actually from Los Angeles, but for some reason, many equate the two.
Last year, I got an email, that was bemoaning the fact, that Disney had no Black princesses. The writer was soliciting signatures, to send to the Disney Corp. and had acquired about 150 when the email got to me. Here's her email, and it's followed by the response I wrote the sister that was attempting to roust Disney to 'do right by us'.
Sent around the U. S.: May 31, 2006
Interesting thought
Subject "How come there's no Princess here that looks
like me?"
Dear Disney Company,
In December 2005, I made my first visit to Disney
World with my family. The experience was breathtaking.
Throughout our journey, the adults were astonished by
how the themes were brought to life. The children were
fascinated and engaged particularly by the Princess',
Minnie's House, the fake snow that fell at night, the
parade, meeting the characters and asking questions as
well as taking pictures with the characters. Above
all, the girls were intrigued by the Princess' mini
shows. However, my daughter had a question. She said,
"How come there's no Princess here like me?" I asked,
"What do you mean?" She replied, "You know, a Princess
like "That's So Raven or Penny Proud". I responded by
saying, "Unfortunately, Disney has not created
fairytales for children like you. In other words,
there are no Princess' of African American descent."
As the evening came to an end, I began to ponder on
her question. I thought to myself...well, why aren't
there any African American Princesses in such a place
where the motto is "We Make All Dreams Come True". I
decided to email your company to ask why. A few weeks
later, I received a surprising call. The woman I spoke
to reassured me that my question and concern was taken
seriously and would be looked into further.
During this conversation, I asked why there aren't any
African American Princesses. The woman stated because
there aren't any African American fairytales. She
said, "Well we have Pocahontas who represents Native
America, Mulan who represents the Chinese, Jasmine who
represents the descendants of the Middle East and the
African Americans have Lion King out of Africa". That
reply left me with the thought that she just compared
African Americans to wild animals. After that
statement, I just laughed and respectfully ended the
conversation. One thing I realized was that I can't
blame her for her response. Disney has not created an
African American fairytale.
As an educator/parent, we all know that through life
experiences what we can touch, see, feel, taste, and
hear leaves a lasting impression. Disney, you hold the
power to make life experiences become a reality to a
melting pot world, which includes African Americans.
Disney's motto is "We Make All Dreams Come True".
Well Disney, my child and other children like her have
a dream and through their Disney experience, they are
depending on you to make it come true.
Thank you,
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Here's my response sent to all on the list: 1, July 2006.
Y'all forgive me if I have offended anyone....I was gonna send this to my sister for editing, deleting or approval, but ...oh well....here it comes~
I appreciate the questions that your visit to Disney's playlands elicited. However, I will try to keep my response simpl |
