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Posted: Tuesday July 18th, 2006 23:01 |
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This movie was simply brilliant, I really enjoyed it.
It's based on life of the martial artist Huo Yuanjia who challenged foreign fighters and started the Jin Wu Sports Federation.
If you simply want to enjoy a really good, Asian (non Hollywood)martial arts flick without the Peter Pan flying nonsense then this is probably the best film you'll see for a long time.....understandbly it's also Jet Li's last martial arts movie.
If you're looking for accuracy then forget it....many parts are highly fictionalised and you'll know this if you have any knowledge of the real life Huo Yuanjia.
Overall it's definitely worth your money and it's the only good movie out at the cinema IMO.
8.5/10
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Posted: Wednesday July 19th, 2006 04:53 |
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@ PH
Thanks for the recom. I am a bit of a Jet Li fan so I will be sure to see it.
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Posted: Wednesday July 19th, 2006 06:03 |
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Thanks PH
I used to be a Jet Li fan but got annoyed with him since he went Hollywood, too much flying. Now you've said he doesn't fly in this movie I'm going to watch it 
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Posted: Wednesday July 19th, 2006 09:31 |
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| Nah the film is pretty much average.. 5/10, nothing special, nothing that hasn't been done, quite predictable....
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Posted: Wednesday July 19th, 2006 19:18 |
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| BT: sorry can't agree, with you I thought it was moving, sensitive and orginal..I like it a lot....
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Posted: Wednesday July 19th, 2006 19:36 |
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I've seen it, It's a good film. I enjoyed it and would recommend it.
It's been out for a while, so see it soon!
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Posted: Wednesday July 19th, 2006 19:42 |
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Blackthought wrote: Nah the film is pretty much average.. 5/10, nothing special, nothing that hasn't been done, quite predictable....
Nah sorry man this film is off the chain. Believe it or not I actually walked in the cinema half expecting it to be crap but I was pleasantly surprised at how good it was. I didn't even predict it to end the way it did.
Plus it was the best fighting i've seen on film for ages minus all the flying and CGI so prevalent in films today.
At least Jet Li went out good in his last kung fu movie and didn't end on a rubbish note.
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Posted: Wednesday July 19th, 2006 19:48 |
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| Does anyone know WHY its his last martial arts film?
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Posted: Wednesday July 19th, 2006 20:01 |
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@Kunjufu
Jet Li quits martial arts movies
Tuesday, December 6 2005, 14:51 GMT - by Daniel Saney
Jet Li has stated that his upcoming martial arts movie Fearless will be his last.
Speaking to students at Fudan University, the actor explained that his future projects would most likely be more philosophical, family-based affairs than the martial arts films for which he has made a name, reports newspaper Youth Daily.
He said that the change in focus stems from a greater interest in spiritual matters in the past few years, explaining that he decided "it wasn't enough to have a strong body, you had to have a strong soul."
While Li has nothing specific on the horizon, he has been approached with regard to over twenty Hollywood projects, intending to "shoot whichever one comes to fruition first." One possibility is a further collaboration with Luc Besson, writer of Li's Kiss of the Dragon, reports The Associated Press.
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Posted: Wednesday July 19th, 2006 22:31 |
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I liked the film but couldn't understand how it formed part of a trilogy. It's supposed to be house of the flying daggers, hero, then fearless, but if memory serves me correctly he wasn't even in house of the flying daggers? Thats the first film where I've seen jet li smile nuff, defo something I can watch again and again.
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Posted: Thursday July 20th, 2006 12:10 |
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@PH yep Fearless is a good movie. Had it on DVD for a while now. Li went out in style. I loved the end particularly, after he presumed that master had beat down his disciple only to find out the man was flexing incorrectly with his daughter...and kicking off a whole chain of uncessary events shaped by my man's lower self and ego.
Was watching a bad movie last night by my bredrin's. One of the best martial arts movies we had seen for the longest time...A young brother from Thailand a Muc Tai specialist...His techniques are unbelievable and simple and I have never seen them before on film..
Had to leave half way through but going to get the title and post it. My boy is wicked..and none of this prancing about Chinese stuff make pretty animal shapes and patterns. Pure double knee and elbow strikes...Straight to the point and devastating. None of this flying about on strings Hong Kong style..Pure martial arts..Pure economy of effort every blow direct and a killer..
This youth is hot really hot....
Will post the info.
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Posted: Thursday July 20th, 2006 14:58 |
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It's not a trilogy. The movies you mentioned are unrelated.
Hero is actually a historical movie about the formation of China itself. An assassin goes to kill a warlord and abandons his mission because he realise that the mans conquest is the only way to finally bring peace to the mission so he kills himself instead. Admitedly they changed it a little and made it a bit more exciting but in essence that's Chinese history.
House of flying daggers was pure bollocks and had nothing to do with Hero!
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Posted: Thursday July 20th, 2006 17:29 |
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ok dm so I heard wrong
I have seen all 3 films and house of the flying daggers became a joke towards the end. Everyone in the cinema was like "ahhh ain't she dead yet"
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Posted: Friday July 21st, 2006 18:36 |
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FredB wrote: @PH yep Fearless is a good movie. Had it on DVD for a while now. Li went out in style. I loved the end particularly, after he presumed that master had beat down his disciple only to find out the man was flexing incorrectly with his daughter...and kicking off a whole chain of uncessary events shaped by my man's lower self and ego.
Was watching a bad movie last night by my bredrin's. One of the best martial arts movies we had seen for the longest time...A young brother from Thailand a Muc Tai specialist...His techniques are unbelievable and simple and I have never seen them before on film..
Had to leave half way through but going to get the title and post it. My boy is wicked..and none of this prancing about Chinese stuff make pretty animal shapes and patterns. Pure double knee and elbow strikes...Straight to the point and devastating. None of this flying about on strings Hong Kong style..Pure martial arts..Pure economy of effort every blow direct and a killer..
This youth is hot really hot....
Will post the info.
Peace..
I think you're talking about Ong Bak.....yeah dat was a killa film.
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Posted: Friday July 21st, 2006 18:40 |
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Posted: Friday July 21st, 2006 21:27 |
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| That film compared to fearless was better IMO
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Posted: Friday July 21st, 2006 21:43 |
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| For Ong Bak fans http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcUF6xgUKDQ
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Posted: Friday July 21st, 2006 21:52 |
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BT: sorry got to seriously disagree, Ong Bak, was good..because it had good technique demostrated, and so good fight sequences...but come on the story line was crap..and some of the scenes too contrived...
Fearless: was good all round, good fight sequences and an excellent story line..that was for once intelligent..
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Posted: Friday July 21st, 2006 21:59 |
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The fight scene in fearles is good.. but really it's nothing that hasn't been seen before, they have perfected it so much that it doesn't stand out that anymore.. the fight in the bar was good and the rematch with the man he fought when he was young was also good, that's about that.
Storyline.. maybe it's good becuase PH mentioned it's based on a true story, but to me it was still rather dry.. why fight on when you know you have been poisoned.. .. to much heroic, pride stuff.. again typical.
What else about the film.. 
Pretty much the same hype about house of the flying dagger.. to much arty farty colours and movement
Ong Bak fight scene is brilliant.. look almost real and raw.. action film and doesn't beg for something else, it does exactly what it says on the cover.. and more, will definetly watch it again...
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Posted: Friday July 21st, 2006 22:16 |
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Blackthought wrote: The fight scene in fearles is good.. but really it's nothing that hasn't been seen before, they have perfected it so much that it doesn't stand out that anymore.. the fight in the bar was good and the rematch with the man he fought when he was young was also good, that's about that.
Storyline.. maybe it's good becuase PH mentioned it's based on a true story, but to me it was still rather dry.. why fight on when you know you have been poisoned.. .. to much heroic, pride stuff.. again typical.
What else about the film.. 
Pretty much the same hype about house of the flying dagger.. to much arty farty colours and movement
Ong Bak fight scene is brilliant.. look almost real and raw.. action film and doesn't beg for something else, it does exactly what it says on the cover.. and more, will definetly watch it again...
BlackThought: Maybe its a life experience thing....because I thought Fearless was good because the storyline was original..and not the formulaic good fighter, shows off, good fighter gets beat down...good fighter seek redemption, learns obsecure new moves and happy ending he redeems himself...
What stood out was how they played his arrogance, and how that destroyed his reputation when he let that blind him..to his contradictions..and the truth.. in this film a good man was killed by the arrogance of a man driven by the need to prove himself as the BEST fighter to the exclusion of all else in his life..his friends, family and reputation...
He finds redemption and a purpose from a blind girl, who opens his eyes to the beauty of life...he comes back to put right the wrongs he did with his arrogance.....but not through his POWER..but through his deeds, he fought on I felt because the reputation of his race wa at stake... it was clear that he needed win, in order to give his school (read into that the Chinese way of life) a reputation beyond his existence.... he spilled his blood for his mantra....that is POWERFUL!!!
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Posted: Friday July 21st, 2006 22:33 |
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Posted: Friday July 21st, 2006 22:43 |
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Yeah he spilled his blood for the sake of his school.. typical nothing new.. I can't relate to that.
He was a fighter blinded by arrogance to win.. nothing new
His eyes was opened by a blind girl.. again nothing new..
I watched the film and I could predict what was going to happen in the next scene.. except the ending.. where he died, I am unimpressed. Even the part where he went on a rampage becuase he thought the other teacher had beaten up his students..
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Posted: Friday July 21st, 2006 22:48 |
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Blackthought wrote: Yeah he spilled his blood for the sake of his school.. typical nothing new.. I can't relate to that.
Can I try this on you, to se if you get now....Martin, Malcolm, Garvey, Bogle, to name but a few..didn't they sacrifice themselves....Couldn't we also THINK, why didn't Martin run, why didn't Malcolm hide when he knew his life was in danger...
Isn't the fact that they died for what they believed more powerful, than only going so far for your beliefs?
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Posted: Friday July 21st, 2006 23:05 |
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Kunjufu wrote: Blackthought wrote: Yeah he spilled his blood for the sake of his school.. typical nothing new.. I can't relate to that.
Can I try this on you, to se if you get now....Martin, Malcolm, Garvey, Bogle, to name but a few..didn't they sacrifice themselves....Couldn't we also THINK, why didn't Martin run, why didn't Malcolm hide when he knew his life was in danger...
Isn't the fact that they died for what they believed more powerful, than only going so far for your beliefs?
I understand/understood what your point is, but in the context of a film like Fearless, it's nothing new, I have seen countless of chinese films were the Master died for the sake of the school.. if that is what I am supposed to be expecting from a film like this, then I would have simply watch some old chinese film, becuase the script here didn't touch on a subject that hasn't been dealt with before. The only difference IMO is that it's based on a true story which tbh I wasn't aware of until PH mentioned it.
If it's was one of its kind, I would have been on the same boat as you guys praising the film.. (not saying the film isn't good), just didn't bring anything new to the table that hasn't been done countless of times before.
The storyline doesn't compare to the likes of "Old Boy"..
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Posted: Saturday July 22nd, 2006 11:48 |
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@Kunjufu. That's the name of the Thai Film Ong Bac.....The most brilliant roundhouse kick I have seen in the first fight scene. Straight in the face and ended the matter.
Wicked film for the fighting techniques. Nothing flash and to the point and deadly. Counted only five basic offensive fighting techniques in the whole film.
Brilliant movie.
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