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Posted: Saturday April 8th, 2006 17:17 |
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http://www.flight93.net/index.php
Very powerful trailer.
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Posted: Saturday April 8th, 2006 23:53 |
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| Should have been released sooner.
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Posted: Sunday April 9th, 2006 19:19 |
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| Personally I think this film is in very poor taste....and is yet more anti Islam propoganda
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Posted: Sunday April 9th, 2006 20:02 |
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***kiss teeth***
I'm sick and tired of America and their propaganda machine. When other people suffer, you don't hear bleep from them. But Americans will whine and cry like a bunch of b**ches over any injustice they endure. What about the sh*t they do to people all over the world? Why aren't Iraqis making a movie about the innocent people Americans killed when they bombed their country?
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Posted: Sunday April 9th, 2006 23:30 |
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| I dont really know what this film is about and just assumed it was events surrounding 9-11. If it has an anti-islam or american agenda then to hell with it.
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Posted: Sunday April 9th, 2006 23:34 |
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| Le Moor: its about oneof the Hi jacked planes..and how the Americans passengers fought back against the odds....cue stirring music, cue sentimental nod to the strenght of the American character... and cue heart string moments...yuk!!!
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Posted: Monday April 10th, 2006 01:43 |
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Islam doesn't need any propaganda these days.Its messing up its name fine all by itself. But I think this will be the first on many 911 films coming your way.
BTW we'll never know what happened on that flight.All I know is I'm damn glad the passengers fought those savages and prevented it from crashing in DC.They're heroes in my book.
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Posted: Monday April 10th, 2006 11:18 |
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there is a turkish film in the cinemas right now about the US military and its "behaviour" in the middle east...very popular among muslims...of course
banned in the USA...of course
they just cannot find any distributor in the States
the film itself, is actually the first answer on Hollywood propaganda films. 100% entertainment and exactly like all MIA, Rambo, Delta Force and other crap movies...just showing the other side
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Posted: Monday April 10th, 2006 21:38 |
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| Cmon huskegee the film is already here bootleg and will be released on DVD soon.
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Posted: Monday April 10th, 2006 21:51 |
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Burning Spear wrote: BTW we'll never know what happened on that flight.All I know is I'm damn glad the passengers fought those savages and prevented it from crashing in DC.They're heroes in my book.
Savages!!?
Sorry Burning Spear, but I keep saying this some Americans have their heads truely up their collective arses... I found your comments Amazing..considering the behaviour of your president and your Military in Iraq..
Lets get this into context...the US military bombed and killed 14 innocent people in an attempt to kill Saddam.. You missed the man...Did anyone every apologise to the family of the 14 dead... did they get compensation for their lost?
Your lot killed 10's of thousands of innocent Iraqi's in a bid to create Regime change... Regime change of a Dictator the CIA armed to the bloody teeth to fight IRAN... Yet you have the termerity to call people savages... How many times has the CIA gone into other countries and committed terrorist activities in those countries... Sorry but I find your comments hypocracy at its worse...
Note I haven't even touched on Norad..the American fund raising Arm of the IRA...who bombed the sh*t out of people in london..
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Posted: Monday April 10th, 2006 22:20 |
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Posted: Monday April 10th, 2006 22:40 |
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Posted: Tuesday April 11th, 2006 02:12 |
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Kunjufu wrote: Burning Spear wrote: BTW we'll never know what happened on that flight.All I know is I'm damn glad the passengers fought those savages and prevented it from crashing in DC.They're heroes in my book.
Savages!!?
Sorry Burning Spear, but I keep saying this some Americans have their heads truely up their collective arses... I found your comments Amazing..considering the behaviour of your president and your Military in Iraq..
Lets get this into context...the US military bombed and killed 14 innocent people in an attempt to kill Saddam.. You missed the man...Did anyone every apologise to the family of the 14 dead... did they get compensation for their lost?
Your lot killed 10's of thousands of innocent Iraqi's in a bid to create Regime change... Regime change of a Dictator the CIA armed to the bloody teeth to fight IRAN... Yet you have the termerity to call people savages... How many times has the CIA gone into other countries and committed terrorist activities in those countries... Sorry but I find your comments hypocracy at its worse...
Note I haven't even touched on Norad..the American fund raising Arm of the IRA...who bombed the sh*t out of people in london..
Kunjufu,
Sorry "mate".But at times you want to have it both ways.Argue a point and then ban them when the respoonse doesn't suit your taste.So,I fully expect this response to b deleted shortly.
The savages on 911 and their followers derserve the deaths the American military rains down on them.We can't kill them fast enough in my book.The more the merrier.
Sorry,I lost friends in 911 here in DC,so I'm vested in this..We can argue till the cows come home on why we're in Iraq.But America did not deserve 911.But since the war was brough to our shores, please don't throw revisionist history on some sort of justification.
Al-Queda bombed embassies in Tanzania and Kenya ( I visied the site in Niarobi) and killed many Africans at both sites,so their hands have African blood.So, while you can dig up facts on why America somewhy deserved to be bombed please sir don''t ge anmesia on them killing Blacks in Africa.But as usual the BN cabal turns a blind eye on that.Al-Queda KILLED hundreds of Africans in those bombing.Not the CIA,Mossad or M1^,but al-Queda..So, until you get those facts straight,I'll just take your rants with a grain of salt.
But this is athread on a film.I for one am glad its come out.Like all things Hollywood it's somewhere between the truth and what really happned.
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Posted: Tuesday April 11th, 2006 06:58 |
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Burning spear: Hold the phone a moment...where did I BAN anyone or removed the post of ANYONE in this debate....sorry but you're talking utter rubbish...
Why would i need to DELETE your response, my point is perfectly clear that I feel your response is typical of some AMERICANS who just don't get it... WHO refuse to accept responsibility for the behaviour of their Goverment... Who live in this false notion that THEY are civilised and everyone else is 'SAVAGES' for not buying into your Utopia...
You lost friends..well you know I'm truely sorry to hear that..but that does not detract from the central point that the American administration's double standards BEFORE, DURING and SINCE 9/11 has been noting short of scandalous....
You state that America did not deserve 9/11..well you know there are a lot of people who felt that it was divine justice for all the outragous things your CIA and your Military has done around the globe...
That does not mean that I think Al queda is totally white as snow, nor does it mean I believe that they are on the side of the african, as you quite rightly poijnted out they bombed American interests in Africa and killed many INNOCENT Africans into the bargain..I cannot deny that...
But savages!!??...This from a country whose leader goes on NATIONAL TV and states he wants the leader of another country DEAD OR ALIVE..is that CIVILISED behaviour..unconfused me on this...
The same leader who KIDNAPS people from different countries not in the WAR zone and holds them without trial in someone elses country for how many years now.. EVEN your allies Shoulder to shoulder Blair the dyam liar THINKS you're wrong on this...
This civilised country who talks about not even offering people natural justice, but lynch mob justice so that it can wreck revenge.. What gets me is that since 9/11 whats changed..how has this bloodlust improved anything...since then Administration has gone around the world fecklessly attacking anyone and everyone it regards as its enemies..how is the world a safer place...?
Finally when it comes to killing Africans who has been better at doing that Al queda or America..maybe you ought to tell the family of Patrice Lamumba how NICE the CIA are..or invite discussion from Africans in South Western African states about American help... Better still go to Central Americas..The west Indies in particular Grenda and Jamaica and tell those people the CIA helped to murder to get their puppets into power just how NICE and CIVILISED the American Administration is..
The problem with people like you Burning Spear, is that your myopic admiration of YOUR version of the fact blinds you to the truth..thats why you don't GET why people would feel strongly enough to do what they did on 9/11... The simple fact is outside of America most people got that and could see why it happened.. the only thing that amazed most people was that it took so long to happen..not that it did happen...
But its ok..you go back to sleep and enjoy the Hollywood version of events and roll over like a good poster boy..
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Posted: Tuesday April 11th, 2006 09:48 |
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Kunjufu,
Again you lump Americans with the actions of the government.I for one have many issues with what this government has done.911 was not on the battlefield where few "rules" exist Geneva Convention or not.But since the "savages" who planned the sneak attac of almost four thousand innocent civilians,I think addressing them as such is the least I can do.
As I've stated ad nauseum on this board.America is not the only nation who's hands are bloodied.Europe .Russia and the rest are almost equally guilty of terror throught the world but America is singled out seems strange to me.But this is a film thread and I'll just end it with I'll agree to disagree.
I guess if and when a terrorist state sets off a dirty bomb or chem/bio weapon those future victims deserves it fate as well?
I think not,and waiting around for it to happen is foolish and irresponsible for any government.
I can met you halfway on Gitmo.Obvious abuses were made.But try it in the World Court.The court of public opinion means little.Bring charges on the US,and try it at the Hague.
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Posted: Tuesday April 11th, 2006 16:40 |
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Kunjufu wrote: Le Moor: its about oneof the Hi jacked planes..and how the Americans passengers fought back against the odds....cue stirring music, cue sentimental nod to the strenght of the American character... and cue heart string moments...yuk!!!
Well since the catalogue of events around flight 911 was a load of fabrication the film will be pure fiction anyway. Given that most propaganda is about fiction, it should do its job nicely.
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Posted: Tuesday April 11th, 2006 18:00 |
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Burning Spear wrote: Kunjufu,
Again you lump Americans with the actions of the government.I for one have many issues with what this government has done.911 was not on the battlefield where few "rules" exist Geneva Convention or not.But since the "savages" who planned the sneak attac of almost four thousand innocent civilians,I think addressing them as such is the least I can do.
Burning Spear: look to have a decent convo on this subject you have to do one important thing..that is to actually READ what i wrote...Clearly from the statement above you failed to do that one obvious thing... If you reread my post you see that for you specially I went back and put in red all the points where i made the distinction of talking about the behaviour of the Administration and NOT the American people per se.. you will also see that when i did make reference to the American people I used the adjective SOME..not ALL americans..I was very careful to make that clear distiction between the people and the goverment or its agents...so now that I've clarified THAT point can you deal with that and NOt what you imagined I said..
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Posted: Friday April 14th, 2006 19:25 |
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If people can have Hotel Rwanda without collectively having a hissy fit, or even Sarajevo the movie then why not 9/11?
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Posted: Friday April 14th, 2006 19:46 |
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| I would love to see a film marketed in theatres about the collective conspiracies surrounding 9/11. I am simply not convinced that Al Queda carried out the attacks. Therefore, I find this film to only serve the purpose of brainwashing Americans from learning the truth. Last edited on Saturday April 15th, 2006 16:54 by Shemsi en Tehuti
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Posted: Friday April 14th, 2006 22:42 |
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| I think it's all part and parcel of the conspiracy.
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Posted: Saturday April 15th, 2006 00:22 |
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Well as sopmeone who the Pentagon on 911 and 912,trust me there was a plane.
But that's neither here nor there.The conspiracy theorists will believe everything put in front of them.
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Posted: Saturday April 15th, 2006 07:58 |
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Why is it that probably 99.99% of conspiracy theories are centred around America.
Do you think there could be no smoke without fire.
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Posted: Saturday April 15th, 2006 16:47 |
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In this world of secret and lies there is always something being covered up it just takes a hint of a conspiracy in one department to open the floodgates - but then maybe it's people who live conspiracy or devious lives that usually think this way - we call them politicians and diplomats don't we
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Posted: Saturday April 15th, 2006 17:03 |
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Burning Spear wrote: Well as sopmeone who the Pentagon on 911 and 912,trust me there was a plane.
But that's neither here nor there.The conspiracy theorists will believe everything put in front of them.
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I have friends in DC who the initial explosion at the Pentagon. One of them told me that they saw an airplane, but it never touched down to hit the building. However, they saw a military helicopter fly to the side of the building that got hit right before the explosion. I honestly think that if people took an objective look at the information available, then they would have to point at least one finger of blame on the U.S. government.
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