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Posted: Tuesday February 21st, 2006 09:40 |
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Anyone heard about that new film Kidulthood?
It looks kinda good. I just watched the trailer and I finally think we have something (in the UK) to be proud of. It's got that black guy from the bill in it ( the new police officer) and also that black guy in doctor who. For once they way they talk is done right. I mean does't it annoy you when they tried to do UK sang and it sounds so fake?
Any does anyone think it's gonna be good?
PS. I have a feeling it might be better than bulletboy, which was alrite in my book.
Oh yeah. Does anyone else rember Storm Damage? Why is it that BBC hve never shown it since it first came on?
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Posted: Tuesday February 21st, 2006 10:41 |
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Kidulthood, clever title. Yawn. A film by 'Revolver Entertainment', LOL! What gun and crime entertainment..nothing new there.
I'm wondering whether the young actors have been exploited. But the only way for young actors to make it is by playing these types of sensationalist roles.
The young people being portrayed in this film would go to see it for jokes (and fresh ideas) more than anything else. Adults in the 'hood' already know what's going on. So just what is the purpose of this film?
I would ask who are the people behind it and what are their motives? The director, the writer (both pawns in the film industry) but most importantly who funded it.
I say that because it's funny how films like this always get made and the positive storylines that would actually show people different lives outside of the 'hood' that are available to them instead of glamourising it never get made.
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Posted: Tuesday February 21st, 2006 19:05 |
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Perpetuating a bad situation by glamorization. This film will give youth them even more of a right to 'get on bad' because the film establishes the lifestyle/mentality. Now its all there for them painted in a perfect picture. Now they have something clear to aspire too and ''be''.
I wonder who/what forces are behind the film.
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Posted: Wednesday February 22nd, 2006 10:10 |
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Check out the largest collective of deadheads on one site:
http://www.myspace.com/kidulthood
The right-wing Rupert Murdoch owner of myspace (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4697671.stm and http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=122948) would be rubbing his hands together with glee..that's if he even had to give one F*** about black people.
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Posted: Saturday March 4th, 2006 16:54 |
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Have you even seen the film to say those things......It doesn't glorify violence.....At the end of the movie everyone see's how stupid violence is.....Damn you elders wonder why the youths are growing up lost and confused but where are you all? You talk about our generation being messed up.....
What about yours?..... Fix up and help do something about our community if you don't like the way its being portrayed instead of b**ching and whining behind a computer screen and do something.....
And don't judge the film before you see it because the trailers don't show everything...
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Posted: Monday March 6th, 2006 11:08 |
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@ Lady Stirrer
I must say I'm not going to watch the film. One of the reasons I don't indend to watch it is because I've seen this type of story told 1000 times and I feel the need for a little more actual progression on the issues behind it that have created this dire situation. Another one is because I'm too old for this s*** so I just don't find it cool or funny. I've actually been giving up some of my free time to community projects so I do believe I'm making an effort to 'do something about our community'. I do believe in doing and not just saying.
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Posted: Wednesday March 8th, 2006 09:56 |
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You can't give opinions on a film on a film if you haven't seen it. I was watching GMTV today and the actors in the film siad that the film was not glamourising the lifestyle, but just giving an insight into what life is really like. It's all fine to say that it will make kids think the this lifestyle is good, but what you also have to remember is that for some kids it's like looking into the mirror. The film is based on what they go through in everyday life.
Don't be so quick to condemn .
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Posted: Wednesday March 8th, 2006 11:42 |
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| One of the main characters in the film (one of the black guys) actually wrote and produced it so props to him. Will get it out on DVD as I'm not really into the story but I'm glad a black guys film is being promoted and that its not purely been made by others.
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Posted: Wednesday March 8th, 2006 12:59 |
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Realone wrote: You can't give opinions on a film on a film if you haven't seen it. I was watching GMTV today and the actors in the film siad that the film was not glamourising the lifestyle, but just giving an insight into what life is really like. It's all fine to say that it will make kids think the this lifestyle is good, but what you also have to remember is that for some kids it's like looking into the mirror. The film is based on what they go through in everyday life.
Don't be so quick to condemn.
Lol, oh I've seen enough of it to know. In 10 or 20 years time when you've seen the black community grow and become poorer with more people turning to crime, drugs and violence, with the % of black males with white partners upto 80% and domestic abuse doubled you'll see my point. I know I sound a little extreme and obviously I only want to see the problems in the black community tackled but I do think my opinion about this film is not popular simply because it's not cool. It's not about a black man writing the film it's about the black stereotypes being put out there again and again to condition people. So what if these young people are looking at their sadly restricted lives on the big screen. Does this film have some mind-blowing ending that will truly inspire kids to fix up? I really hope so and if the film does somehow prove to be positive I would gladly eat my words.
So why isn't anyone saying what they enjoyed about the film or what the good bits of the film are?
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Posted: Wednesday March 8th, 2006 15:13 |
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Posted: Wednesday March 8th, 2006 18:12 |
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babygirl44 wrote: Is it even out yet?
Hi babygirl44
yea it is, the film came out on March 3rd, it is a film i am planning to go and see myself this weekend.
Hope its good and worth my money.
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Posted: Wednesday March 8th, 2006 18:52 |
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You're all very judgemental!
I HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THE FILM!
And yes, it was interesting. I stimulate conversation, among other things. I don't think it works as a professional, rounded film like the ones from large Hollywood studios and most of the 'exciting' scenes would work better in a music video or a montage (such as the film trailer). But it is watchable.
You're all criticizing this but would you rather see the Last Holiday with the 'hilarious' Queen Latifah or buffonery from Martin Lawrence in Big Momma's House 2?
So props for Noel Clarke for getting the film made! It cost less than £1 million! This movie had to compete for screen space with Syriana and 8 others at my local cinema. It's amazing the cinema thought it was worth showing... Same with Bullet Boy.
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Posted: Wednesday March 8th, 2006 19:37 |
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Sure I love to see black people doing their thing. I just don't want to see tired stereotypes because black stereotypes are already over-represented on the big screen. It's just not new! But you know you have a point, if it's not crime and drug related it's the buffonery stereotypes and we've seen all of that s*** a thousand times.
My point is that we support stereotypes of ourselves on the big screen because naturally we are always happy to support our own. We now have to get past this barrier by not supporting the stereotypes and demand something more original that doesn't undermine us as a people.
Here is my point: Can anyone name me a black uk film that doesn't contain the stereotypes?
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Posted: Wednesday March 8th, 2006 19:44 |
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It's the first depiction of modern London I actually recognise. Remember movies like Notting Hill or Love actually where we saw an amazing fantasy London with no black folk around. I never have seen that London before.
I watched Kidulthood and I recognised everything in it. OK the torture scene was a little be far fetched but the rest was the London I grew up in and the kids were those I see and spend time with.
Some people dont want to see London like that because it might mean having to face the issues involved as opposed to pretending "oh the youth can't possinly go on like that". They bloody do. I did and most of it is no exaggeration. Some people NEED to see this movie. Parents especially.
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Posted: Wednesday March 8th, 2006 19:56 |
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Michelle33 wrote:
Here is my point: Can anyone name me a black uk film that doesn't contain the stereotypes?
Can anyone name me FIVE Black UK films released in the last five years in cinemas, period
I'd prefer 5 more Kidulthoods and Bullet Boys to any of the tired trash 'starring' Cedric The Entertainment, Queen Latifah, Mike Epps, Ice Cube, Steve Harvey and the rest of those embarassments. America can keep the Johnson Family Vacation and White Chicks 
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Posted: Wednesday March 8th, 2006 20:01 |
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You see my point though? We have to settle for either one or the other.
I mean, films like Kidulthood and Bullet Boy (I shudder at both of those titles) are progressing things ever so slowly but why should we have to settle for this mediocrity?
I say some of that Lottery money needs to fund a positive black film SHARPISH. AND pay the workers on the film a decent wage!
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Posted: Wednesday March 8th, 2006 20:06 |
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By asking for Lottery money you seem to be asking whites to do something. That's not progressive because then they control the output of the film. That's a step backwards. This movie (to the best of my knowledge) was made FUBU.
We need to see more black directors and movie makers doing this. Small scale movies, taking things into their own hands. I'm all for this type of thing. Of course one could do black london romcoms and personally I might even watch it. But in the mean time you should see kidulthood before lambasting it. View it as an object lesson.
You say we keep seeing movies like this but the thing is, parents and people don't believe it happens in London. They think naughty teens is something that is confined to LA and that it. London is as tame as Grange Hill. Do you see? That view needs challenging imo. It's getting serious out there. Bullying in schools is on the increase in a big way.
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Posted: Wednesday March 8th, 2006 20:33 |
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I know there are large chunks of money going to flourishing white companies to produce this or that for some project or other. The point is that to create more of a level playing field in the film industry we need a leg up, a big one. Why should we have to struggle to find the big bucks for a film? I think one major black british film should be funded without delay because it's overdue. AND it should be money given without strings (puppet strings) so it doesn't have to include stereotypes!
I really don't want to watch it but if people like this film so much they can all say what's so good about it here. I would rather read their comments than watch the film.
People know what's going on because of the reports in the media. As long as the problems are contained in the less-privileged areas and schools then middle-class britain is happy, they can turn a blind eye to all the problems..that is unless Timmy takes a wrong turn on his way home..but oh no, of course Timmy gets picked up by mummy in the land rover so he's cool.
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Posted: Wednesday March 8th, 2006 20:45 |
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En Sabah Nur wrote: Michelle
By asking for Lottery money you seem to be asking whites to do something. That's not progressive because then they control the output of the film. That's a step backwards. This movie (to the best of my knowledge) was made FUBU.
We need to see more black directors and movie makers doing this. Small scale movies, taking things into their own hands. I'm all for this type of thing. Of course one could do black london romcoms and personally I might even watch it. But in the mean time you should see kidulthood before lambasting it. View it as an object lesson.
You say we keep seeing movies like this but the thing is, parents and people don't believe it happens in London. They think naughty teens is something that is confined to LA and that it. London is as tame as Grange Hill. Do you see? That view needs challenging imo. It's getting serious out there. Bullying in schools is on the increase in a big way.
True. From what I know about the film put me off...but I MAY go to see it, just so I know what I am criticising (if I still feel that way after watching it).
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Posted: Saturday March 11th, 2006 16:18 |
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I loved it , it was really interested , makes a refreshing change from american films. It highlights the day to day lifes of young people in London.I hope next time a film is made it can be made elsewhere like birmingham , London life does not reflect the whole of U.K. PS AML AMEEN A.K.A TRIFE IS VERY SEXY ALSO NOEL CLARKE A.K.A SAM! HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM! 
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Posted: Friday March 17th, 2006 22:39 |
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| There have been a lot of judgements made about the film without people seeing. It does promote some stereotypes but there is a lot of truth behind the film. I would advise those judging it to go and see it to make a decision for themselves.
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Posted: Saturday March 18th, 2006 01:28 |
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I saw Kidulthood last week and I think they whole film has been over hyped. A lot of the film is based on stereotypes, like one of the characters crazy drug dealing yardie uncle. I also thought most of the characters weren’t true to life you had these posh white kids who parents obviously had money and lived in big houses, but they were supposed to be going to a inner city school which makes no sense.
Then you had the black characters who lived in high rise council looking flats. I also thought the acting was very poor and nearly the whole of the cast were unconvincing, looked to old for the parts they were playing and couldn't act.
To me the whole film seemed like the writer had just read a load of stories in newspapers about violent kids then decided to write a film not knowing what he was really talking about.
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Posted: Thursday August 10th, 2006 12:45 |
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I saw this movie recently on sky box office and I have to say it was an entertaining film set in the rough streets of London. The movie is about the ASBO generation of school kids where a girl gets bullied and commits suicide, it has the usuall sex, drugs and a funny Jamaican gang leader. I had trouble keeping up with the slang IE 'skit' which I think means slag and 'innit-doe' which means isn't it though lol along with 'Blawd' which means blood or bruv.
A new trend of British made urban movies is becoming popular thus I feel more should be made in the offering. George Issac produced Kidhulthood it's an opportunity for film makers to make their mark. I feel alot of people can identify to these type of films and it also creates awareness amongst the elder generation as to what's going on. There should be more movies based in Birmingham and Manchester IE the History of gangs such as Burger and Gooch and their day to day runnings.
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