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Posted: Wednesday May 31st, 2006 17:13 |
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Kunjufu wrote: Miss Nellia..I've been a fan from time....however the mistake is that Director strayed away from the comic story line that made sense, in respect of making a rather obvious social comment.. He/she failed, because in the end the whole premise then fell apart....
Sorry I love the Xmen too..but this fim had big holes all the way throught it....Imagine Pheonix Kills Scott, but one one appears concerned where he is, she is brough back to the School medicalised, with Wolverine fawning all over her...Not a mention of where's Scott? Nope not working..
I agree with most the points you made but I think most of the problems Brett had were out of his control. He was brought on board as director right at the last minute after Brian Singer walked/left to do Superman Returns and most of the story line and script had to be changed. Singer also t ook with him James Marsden who plays Cyclops, so that's a major character that's effectively written off. Had Marsden stayed on I think Cyclops would have lived and probably ended up killing Pheonix.
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 02:46 |
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Mmmmm....
i saw x men 3 today....
 if you are an average movie goer..
if you know anything about comics.... why oh why... do these directors.. INSISt on straying from the comic storyline... and embelishing.... why....? this x men movie was the wrost of the 3... I have seen.. absolutely terrible....
where do i start.... mmm ok i wont even start from a comic point of veiw...
ok an unwritten rule in movies are you dont kill of a major character... without ofsetting some dramatic developments... scott and professor x died... FOR?
what difference did it make to the movie...none... heck only wolverine asked for scot in the middle of trying to slam jean.... damn this movie sucked....
now comic flaws and no brainers
dm kunjufu and hakeem will understand where im coming from with these
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ok juggernaut... nothing stops the jugernaut save mental attack NOTHING... if magneto got a hold of what should have been the real juggernaut he wouldnt need anyone else...
ok this is where the movie started to piss me off... wwhen magneto went into the house and told juggernaut no one get in then sh*t start poppin and wolverinne decides he's going in.
1.why did wolverine decide to run head on into a running juggernaut head on?
was it because he recognised that it was only vinnie jones in a dyam fool fool costume... must have been...
2. why did the director see it fit have juggernaut fighting a 14yr old gurl kitty insted of fighting big ol colossus? why is a strength guy like juggernaut what a waste of charcter
3. And for this scene soley do i despise the movie.. the scene where "juggernaut" was chasing kitty throuhg the walls then she uses the mutant kid who drains mutant powers to trick juggernaut into runnin into a wall like some kinda tom and jerry sh*t... for one juggernaut is not a mutant... not one bit.... juggernaut... is just a regular guy.. brother in law of charles xavier who found the caves of cytorakk and put on the crimson bands of cytorak turnin him into juggernaut... so his powers are purely magic...so that scene where they had him run into the wall double pisses me off...
xmen 3 is the WORST marvel movie... ever... in fact its the worst superhero movie... batman and robin from back in the day with adam west in dem batty bwoy shorts... is 10 times better... why? because it tried to stick as closly to the the comic.. as corny as those flicks were... there were a lot more authentic than x men 3
hakeem was right x men 3 is rubbish .. a dissapointment to say the least...
i went for this job interveiw... and if i dont get the job... and im feeling down.. i'll just go to the cinema and watch x men 3...again that will remind that life aint that bad ...
becase that movie was bad...
1 out of 10....
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 08:19 |
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While I agree Lucas that X3 was a terrible film it is by NO means the worst. My friend you have had a memory lapse...
The debacle that was Hulk
The disgrace that was Daredevil
The insult that was Fantastic four
X3 was poor... but better than those stinkers!
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 11:08 |
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Hulk and dardevil were miles better than.... xmen3
drunk... xmen 1 and 2 is better than x3...Xmen 2 in particular
i read both comics...
atleast they made daredevil true to his character....
hulk was even better the only flaw with hulk was that they made the audience wait to long to see the hulk... but hulk is hulk in the movie... big strong savage.... just like the hulk of comics.... that hulk movie stomps all over x 3...
x men 3 was just wrong....
i didnt waste my time to go see fantastic 4 so i wont speak for that one....
but xmen 3 from what i have seen is the worst superhero movie so faar..
terrible...
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 11:25 |
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They rewrote the Hulk story in a far worse way than the X rewrite. His daddy is electric? WTF? And what the hell was that ending about? Hulk looked crap as well. Really bad. Hulk is the worst of the lot.
Ben Afleck was a terrible Daredevil even though I don't even like Daredevil as a character. Punisher was a better flick than that... which is saying something.
I didn't like X3 but it's not in the league of flops like the others. X3's problems were far too numerous to count.
Kitty in love with Bobby instead of Collosus, Collosus being American, Collosus hardly being used, Killing Cyclops (HOW DARE THEY), Calisto moving fast, Leech not being green, Mystique betraying mutants (pure bollocks), Angel being a lil p***y, Juggernaut being a mutant, Callisto putting up half a fight against storm... storm beat callisto in the comics WITHOUT HER POWERS lol... Bolivar Trask being black, Bolivar Trask with no robots, Wolverine bigger than Storm... Wolverine bigger than anybody is wrong damnit! Pyro DARING to be audacious enough to fight Iceman FFS!
Jean did do the whole Phoenix thing well though. What was the point of Magneto moving the whole GG bridge when he could have just lifted up his army and carried them himself? Bit of pointless overkill...
So far Marvel has only gotten the Spiderman films good. I don't want any more comic movies until they get their act right. I'm gonna watch DC films from now on. Batman begins was heavy and I expect Superman returns to be as well.
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 12:03 |
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hulks dad wasnt electric.... he was the absorbing man... who is crusher creel in comics.. titania man.. i dont know if you are familiar with him.... yes they did embelish a bit... on that front but the hulk was good.... the hulk they depicted in that movie was akin to... peter davids hulk....when he was in the pantheon.. i dunno if you are familiar with the hulk as in collecting .. you seem to be an x-man fan.....
one thing you cant fault the huld for is... he is true to his character... and was mad powerful
yes that bridge thing was overkill... big time... thing is magneto looked so damn cheesy... when he was doin that magneto in comics is a cool dude... not some old geezer pensioner...
i thnk what hurt me the most out of all the x men trilogy.. well 2 things...
1. wolverine... in comics.. wolverine is a complete badass.. a cool muthaf**ka.. who doesnt talk much..... and is dangerous as hell.... 1990's trading crads put wolverines fighting skills at 7 which is the highest... wolverine is one bad muthaf**ka to say the least.. deadly..
in the movies he is joke... a sham..a fake a charlatian.... a dyam eeydiat... who tells jokes.. and gets battered.... in the cartoon they depicted him that way as well but i could undersatnd there,.. why they did so... because they couldnt have him going around gutting people like he does in comics because the cartoon was more aimed at kids. but in the movie they should have made him true to character....thed frenchconnectionuked it up.
2. juggernaut.... fisrt of all they have juggernaut the same height as everyone...terrible flaw... then they had juggernaut imprisoned.. which is impossible.. the only thing that can thwart or hold juggernaut is mental attack or in the latter case mental comatose.... so i dont see how they could have the juggernaut in chains... not many people have stopped the juggernaught.. physically i can only think of 3...
the hulk.. thor.. and onslaught who punched him from canada to the states i think or something like that....
to have juggenaut knocked out by some stupid tom and jerry trick was cheap and low...
i spit on xmen 3
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 19:49 |
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| The only comic installment I have faith in now is Spider Man. Even though I didn't think much of the first film, the second one was superb. The next one you just know is going to be off the chain.
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Posted: Thursday June 1st, 2006 23:28 |
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spider man... the only thing good about spiderman is actually spiderman himself... as in his battles... because he is akin to his comic counterpart...
his personal life etc is CRAP... cack rubbish...
mary jane (kirsten dunst) is flippin butterz... and perter parker is like some love sick puppy... oh i love mary jane... rubbish
i am an avid spiderman readre.. and in his teen yrs... he was never a love sick idiot like they potray in movies...
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Posted: Friday June 2nd, 2006 03:17 |
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Disappointed in you guys, it wasn't that bad, was a powerful storyline and it dared to move away from the comic to bring the story to masses that didn't read the comic book.
last score count
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Posted: Friday June 2nd, 2006 04:01 |
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| Most of the characters don't look right to me. Only Charles Xavier and Magneto's characters look like a good fit. The other actors/actresses look soo off.
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Posted: Friday June 2nd, 2006 07:01 |
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Miss Nellia wrote: Disappointed in you guys, it wasn't that bad, was a powerful storyline and it dared to move away from the comic to bring the story to masses that didn't read the comic book.
You know the hardcore fans are soo hard to please
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Posted: Friday June 2nd, 2006 09:44 |
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Miss Nellia wrote: Disappointed in you guys, it wasn't that bad, was a powerful storyline and it dared to move away from the comic to bring the story to masses that didn't read the comic book.
last score count
So 5 and 7
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mmmm a powerful storyline...??????
lol
.... am i dreaming....
you actually said that x3 has a powerful storyline????
scott summers... cyclops one of the founding members died.... how did that affect the movie?
professor xavier died.. how did that affect the movie?
????
cyclops died and not one person aside from woverine asked for him... and that was while he was about to get it on with jean grey......"mmmm your so sexy... i want you... by the way what happened to scott?
what storyline...
x3 is one of the worst movies.. i have ever watched....
i hated x men 1 and 2....
but since i watched x 3 .. it has given me a new found respect for them...
and i still think x 1 and 1 are rubbish....
the director who wrothe the cript and story for x men 3 should be publicly caned
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Posted: Friday June 2nd, 2006 11:46 |
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@ Lucas
Juggernaut ain't ALL that. Gladiator messed him up you seem to have forgot but there are many who COULD that just haven't encountered him yet. Though I agree with your general point that they weakened him in the movies and he shouldn't be a mutant.
Oh and btw Spiderman was brilliant and very true to the comics. Peter Parker is a whinger over Mary Jane and he DOES whine to himself quite a bit... Only NOW in the comics they have been married and everything so you prolly forgot that before they were together he did fuss about it and her quite a bit. Besides, if he isn't being a baby over MJ then he is being a baby over Aunt May (who irritates the hell outta me). Spiderman movies were brilliant... nothing to moan about.
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Posted: Friday June 2nd, 2006 12:04 |
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drunk careful drunk... u are stepping into the comic zone ... with a comic..legend..
ok point one.. gladiater NEVEr beat gladiator... ever and he cant... you are talkin about the x men kiddie cartoon.....where they encountered...
comic universe.. which is the reall universe for these characters... gladitor cannot match juggernaut...
galdiator has had his ass handed to him.. by..
thor...
hulk.. hulk virtually killed him....
only 3 beings have "stoped" the juggernaut physically... hulk... and thor... and onslaught
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peter mary jane....ok.. ima be real with you i have read nearly every issue of spider man ever printed... and im talkin all titles... amazing spider man spectacular spider man.. web of spider man.... etc etc.. all parallel running titles...
PETER never fawned ver maryjane... peter was a geek in high school but the women loved him.. betty...liz... and gwen was always fighting over him... in fact he was introduced to maryjane by... his aunt who tried to set them up on a blind date.. to which peter always tried to duck out of... thoughh he had not seen her admittedly.... i vividly the issues leadin up to when they met.. betty and liz were vying for peter... and peter had just ducked out to be spiderman... so they went round to his house.. and maryjane was there waiting to meet peter....for the first time.. so that was 3 girls right there peter had on his case...
trust me the way they depict peter... in the movie....is pityful...
as a deep deep comic and spider man fan as in i have read spider man comics from age 5...
im in my 20's now...
spider man films are a-ight... nothing special...
to someone not really into spider man or not overly knowledgebla of the "character" then that movie may seem great...
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Posted: Friday June 2nd, 2006 12:11 |
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here drunk...
some pics of hulk.. destroyin gladiotor
gladiator is just some cheap superman knock off...
he gets no ratings in the comic universe...
but i will alllo you because once again u were decieved the stoopid people embelished in the cartoon
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Posted: Friday June 2nd, 2006 12:13 |
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Lucas... wrote: @
drunk careful drunk... u are stepping into the comic zone ... with a comic..legend..
ok point one.. gladiater NEVEr beat gladiator... ever and he cant... you are talkin about the x men kiddie cartoon.....where they encountered...
comic universe.. which is the reall universe for these characters... gladitor cannot match juggernaut...
galdiator has had his ass handed to him.. by..
thor...
hulk.. hulk virtually killed him....
only 3 beings have "stoped" the juggernaut physically... hulk... and thor... and onslaught
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peter mary jane....ok.. ima be real with you i have read nearly every issue of spider man ever printed... and im talkin all titles... amazing spider man spectacular spider man.. web of spider man.... etc etc.. all parallel running titles...
PETER never fawned ver maryjane... peter was a geek in high school but the women loved him.. betty...liz... and gwen was always fighting over him... in fact he was introduced to maryjane by... his aunt who tried to set them up on a blind date.. to which peter always tried to duck out of... thoughh he had not seen her admittedly.... i vividly the issues leadin up to when they met.. betty and liz were vying for peter... and peter had just ducked out to be spiderman... so they went round to his house.. and maryjane was there waiting to meet peter....for the first time.. so that was 3 girls right there peter had on his case...
trust me the way they depict peter... in the movie....is pityful...
as a deep deep comic and spider man fan as in i have read spider man comics from age 5...
im in my 20's now...
spider man films are a-ight... nothing special...
to someone not really into spider man or not overly knowledgebla of the "character" then that movie may seem great...
Lucas it happened in the comics as well as the cartoon. On board the starjammer... I'm not sure how up to date you are btw... did you know Juggernaut and Sabretooth are goodies?
That Ironman is like baddie now and treating Spidey like a punk? LOL keep up man.
Yes Spiderman was all over Gwen and Gwen died. THEN Peter became MJs lil puppy. Go dig up those comics dude. When she was in danger every five minutes and Peter thought of quitting every five minutes... always ready to pack it in. Always talking to himself about is it worth it and so on... you know Peter can talk to himself LOL
Kirsten Dunst might not have been pretty but I thought she was a good Mary Jane and the relationship between them was true to the comics. Baring in mind STAN LEE was behind the movies... you gonna argue with Stan Lee?
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Posted: Friday June 2nd, 2006 12:23 |
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drunk... did u check the pics i just posted...
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lhwhen i say love sick puppy i mean he wasnt running down.... maryjane... like how they depict. in the movie...
in fact it was him always breakin the dates.. cause he was busy being spider man...
peter had wanted to quit loads of times... whenever anyone close to him... or if someone died because of his spider man alter ego...
not just for maryjane....
eg he wanted to quit when ned leeds died in the spider man vs wolverine story ...
he wanted to quit when aunt may got hurt... he wanted to quit when gwen died... etc etc etc..
please dont make me have to go find pics to bring my point across...
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Posted: Friday June 2nd, 2006 12:26 |
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i dont have to argue with stan lee here is proof
here is one.. just to illustrate my point.....
does meter look like he's love sick over gwen,..
she asked him to the part notice
like i told u... gwen liz betty.. was runnin down pete
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Posted: Friday June 2nd, 2006 12:27 |
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Lucas... wrote: drunk... did u check the pics i just posted...
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lhwhen i say love sick puppy i mean he wasnt running down.... maryjane... like how they depict. in the movie...
in fact it was him always breakin the dates.. cause he was busy being spider man...
peter had wanted to quit loads of times... whenever anyone close to him... or if someone died because of his spider man alter ego...
not just for maryjane....
eg he wanted to quit when ned leeds died in the spider man vs wolverine story ...
he wanted to quit when aunt may got hurt... he wanted to quit when gwen died... etc etc etc..
please dont make me have to go find pics to bring my point across...
Lucas I never doubted Hulk could beat Gladiator. I don't think anybody can beat Hulk and I still don't accept that namor did.... annoys me. Gladiator can beat Juggernaut though.
Your point is irrelevant, yes Peter whines about everyone getting hurt but with MJ it was a big thing. He did break dates and when she got mad at him he b**ched about it to himself FOREVER. I have no idea why you're denying it. The movie Spiderman was true to the comics. Only time Spiderman wasn't running down MJ was when his mind was on Blackcat for obvious reasons 
RE your pic... GWEN IS DEAD! I'm talking AFTER that
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Posted: Friday June 2nd, 2006 12:35 |
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yes.. you said.... pete was lovesick for gwen.. i posted that pic to illustrate that u wrere wrong...
pete was never lovesick for mj...
simply because he didnt have time to....
being spider man... workin at the bugle.. studying...
he loves mj.. but he was never lovesick... never..
trust me... you know a lil suttin suttin bout spider man.. but i told u.. i have read nealy ever issue ever printed... do u realise the magnitude of that statemet?
i dont thin you do...
and no gladiator is not on par with juggie...
thor and hulk is...
but hold on a sec
ima post pics to illustraye all my points..
cant argue with pics right?
lol
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Posted: Friday June 2nd, 2006 12:37 |
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ok picture no 1...
i dont play
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Posted: Friday June 2nd, 2006 12:38 |
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pic 2
dont test me when it comes to comics man
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