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Posted: Thursday March 29th, 2007 10:43 |
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"They have never altered this forward motion. Even the pretense of infighting is clearly a defensive act. As the outcome of all of their wars against each other has shown, their infighting is nothing more than periodic explosions in their ongoing bickering over political philosophy and whose social order will be used to exploit and control the greater share of the world's people of color.
European infighting has only been over who would be on the throne and who would be the still privileged but dispossessed elite, of who would lead their domination ovr others. In that the European people form one nation, wars between European countries over their internal or external distribution of power and control are civil wars. The Cold War, which raged for decades between two brothers, is but one example of how Afrikans are destabilized and distracted by taking sides among Europeans.
Before, during and after the Cold War, Europeans ruled the politics and economics of Afrikans."
Mwalimu Bomani Baruti
Homosexuality & the Effeminization of Afrikan Males
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Posted: Thursday March 29th, 2007 12:10 |
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"....That racism, however defined, has finally come to be conceded by European intellectuals and their audience as a permanent social fixture should not be news to us. The power it gives the beneficiaries of white supremacy should never have been thought to be relinquished easily, if at all. Racism is not logical.
It is not susceptible to moral reason. It cannot and will be not be peacefully negotiated away."
Clarence J. Munford
Race and Reparations: A Black Perspective for the 21st Century
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Posted: Thursday March 29th, 2007 18:49 |
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Europeans are not blaming Africans for their present day wealth and privilege. That would give this (blame) game away, wouldn't it? - Breadfruit.
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Posted: Thursday March 29th, 2007 19:53 |
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"Negroes are the only people in this world who are set apart because of who they are, and at the same time told to forget who they are by the very people who set them apart in the first place."
John Oliver Killens
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Posted: Thursday March 29th, 2007 20:12 |
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The renaissance we speak of in Africa today is not confined to the physical boundaries of the African continent, but includes Africa's sons and daughters in the Caribbean and elsewhere on our globe.
The fact that we share these challenges, is a clear pointer to the reality that we share a common destiny. We therefore need to build on our close historical ties of solidarity and friendship, developing our cooperation to deal with the problems of poverty, underdevelopment and global marginalisation.
In as much as we have said that we need unity within Africa to achieve the advances Africa must make, we have also said that all people of African descent, wherever they are, in Africa and in the Diaspora, should act in unity to overcome the problems we all face universally.
Our advances in this new context of struggle are predicated on tapping all our resources, both on the continent and in the Diaspora.
Marcus Garvey championed the unity of the oppressed as a condition for our movement forward. This unifying philosophy still resonates today, though in a different world, a world marked by globalisation as the defining characteristic of the world social and economic system. The honourable Marcus Garvey raised the need for all Africans in the Diaspora to return to the 'mother continent', Africa, where they could make a contribution, by helping to fight colonialism and rebuilding their continent once freedom was achieved.
The terrible journeys that brought our ancestors to these shores have given you Jamaica as your physical and beloved home. Yet, we could achieve "the return to Africa" that Marcus Garvey spoke of, in many symbolic and practical ways, by for example responding to the call to combine our efforts and resources for the upliftment of African people everywhere.
ADDRESS OF THE PRESIDENT OF SOUTH AFRICA, THABO MBEKI, ON RECEIVING THE FREEDOM OF THE CITY OF KINGSTON, JAMAICA, 30 June 2003
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Posted: Thursday March 29th, 2007 21:18 |
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I love this thread! This is probably the best thread on the forum, and should be pinned imo. So much real words of wisdom here.

Respect to Breadfruit, you've posted the bulk of the quotes and you post some really great stuff, keep up the good work.
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Posted: Friday March 30th, 2007 12:32 |
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comfortandjoy wrote: I love this thread! This is probably the best thread on the forum, and should be pinned imo. So much real words of wisdom here.

Respect to Breadfruit, you've posted the bulk of the quotes and you post some really great stuff, keep up the good work.
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Glad you appreciate the thread.
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Posted: Friday March 30th, 2007 15:19 |
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"revolutions are made by women and men who think as women and men of action, and act as women and men of thought."
Kwame Nkrumah
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Posted: Friday March 30th, 2007 15:41 |
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"Afrikan peoples and nations across the Diaspora must apprise themselves of a full, ongoing knowledge of the social, economic and cultural history of Afrikan nations as well as their contemporary status and reorganize their sociocultural and economic structures so as to initiate and fuel continental Afrika's growth and development.
The Afrikan American community, especially, should vastly overhaul and reconstruct its educational orientation toward a knowledge of the Motherland. It must realize that its own economic salvation is coterminous with or tied to that of Afrika's. It must invest money and human resources in Afrika's development and perceive its economic prosperity as its special responsibility and mission…
The Afrikan American community must become vigilantly and jealously interested in U.S. and European policies toward Afrika and seek to influence those policies in both its own and Afrika's favor."
Amos Wilson
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Posted: Friday March 30th, 2007 16:18 |
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"What Britain needs to do as a nation is acknowledge the scale and magnitude of the crimes it committed and then having made that acknowledgement find the appropriate way to right historic wrongs."
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Posted: Friday March 30th, 2007 17:09 |
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"Americans have never been able to explain how it came to pass that the most articulate defender of their freedoms, Thomas Jefferson and the greatest hero of their revolution and history, George Washington, both were large-scale, largely unrepentant slaveholders.
Slavery, for all who look to Enlightenment Europe and revolutionary America as the source of their most cherished political values, is not the peculiar institution but the embarrassing institution."
Orlando Patterson
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Posted: Friday March 30th, 2007 19:18 |
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"[Once] when we had a smooth sea and moderate wind, two of my wearied countrymen who were chained together, preferring death to a life of misery somehow made through the [deck] netting and jumped into the sea; immediately another fellow followed their example; and I believe many more would very soon have done the same, if they had not been prevented by the ship's crew. Two of the wretches were drowned, but they got the other and afterwards flogged him unmercifully for attempting to prefer death to slavery."
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Posted: Friday March 30th, 2007 19:34 |
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"Almost all the early black institutions in the North used the adjective "African" in their titles--the Free African Society, the African School, the African Church of Philadelphia. [Thus] these ex-slaves identified positively with their ancestral homelands and did not subscribe to the common white characterizations of Africa as a dismal, cultureless environment."
Gary B. Nash
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Posted: Friday March 30th, 2007 21:43 |
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"If you talk to a man in a language he understands, that goes to his head. If you talk to him in his language, that goes to his heart."
Nelson Mandela
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Posted: Friday March 30th, 2007 22:02 |
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"Man was viewed as the fundamental metaphor for all higher truth. The gods (neters) and most importantly the Pharaoh all stood as symbols of profound truth. So clearly, the understanding of man (mind) was viewed as paramount in the science, the wisdom and theology of Ancient Egypt."
Naim Akbar
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Posted: Saturday March 31st, 2007 02:28 |
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"The patriarchal principle would rule the whole life of the Indo-Europeans, from the Greeks and Romans to the Napoleonic Code, to our day. This was why woman's participation in public life would arrive later in European than in Negro societies. If the opposite seems true today in certain parts of Black Africa, it can be attributed to Islamic influence."
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Posted: Saturday March 31st, 2007 13:18 |
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"My enemies in America have done much to hold me up to public contempt and ridicule, but have failed. They believe that the only resort is to stir up national prejudice against me, in that I was not born within the borders of the United States of America.
I am not in the least concerned about such a propaganda, because I have travelled the length and breath of America and I have discovered that among the fifteen million of my race, only those who have exploited and lived off the ignorance of the masses are concerned with where I was born. The masses of the people are looking for leadership, they desire sincere, honest guidance in racial affairs.
As proof of this I may mention, that the largest number of members in the Universal Negro Improvement Association (of which I am President-General) are to be found in America, and are native born Americans. I know these people so well and I love them so well, that I would not for one minute think that they would fall for such an insiduous propaganda."
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Posted: Saturday March 31st, 2007 13:36 |
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Did everyone know, just how big our Motherland really is? How many times could Europe or the USA fit into that landmass??
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Posted: Saturday March 31st, 2007 17:42 |
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"The writing of the history of one culture from the milieu of another culture...raises serious questions of cultural bias and distortion. It does not necessarily offer objectivity, and indeed could not offer it in any sense in which this involved freedom from cultural colour.
In terms of objectivity, where it touches evaluation of facts and events, a cultural alien can only offer an alternative set of prejudices."
Willie E. Abraham
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Posted: Sunday April 1st, 2007 17:14 |
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"We are engaged in struggle for the regeneration of all Africans, in the Americas, the Caribbean, Africa and everywhere, because we want to ensure the struggle of our people here in Haiti, in the Caribbean, in the Americas, Europe and Africa must never be in vain.
In this way, we will contribute to the renaissance of Africans everywhere in the world and ensure we are no longer an object of ridicule and pity, nor a tool of exploitation to be discarded at the fancy of the powerful, but that we become what we really and truly are: proud and confident human beings who occupy their pride of place as equals among the peoples of the world."
Thabo Mbeki
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Posted: Sunday April 1st, 2007 17:40 |
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"All people, all over the world, throughout history have shared in common the fact that they belong to a culture of origin. That is a universal reality. Another equally important universal reality is that there are many, many different cultures in the world and each of them is unique. The uniqueness of a culture is what gives specialness to its members. The members of a culture are bonded together by their shared culture, which gives them a sense of collective identity.
"We are an Afrikan people," simply reveals that there are values, traditions and a heritage that we share because we have a common origin."
"Our Ancestors live with us. They created the first civilizations thousands of years ago and they suffered the pain of the Maafa. And yet, they were able to endure the most disastrous and dehumanizing circumstances ever perpetrated against a group of people, only because of the power of the African spirit.
They did not have the freedom to affirm their cultural heritage. We now have that choice."
Marimba Ani
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Posted: Sunday April 1st, 2007 18:01 |
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What's the Hour of the Night?
After four score years of freedom
Our so-called leaders say
The the race has made great progress
And we face the dawn of day
But the day is not quite dawning
Millions of my peoples stand
Pleading at the bars of justice
For reparations and land
We're not free in this country
And the truth is the light
So I turn to ask my watchman
What's the hour of the night?
We died fighting for democracy
I admit this to be true
Yet countless African men & women
Have no homes or work to do
If we wish to see the daylight
Or the rising of the sun
We need our self-determination
Our own affair to run
Since only reparations will
Put freedom in our sight
Let us turn to ask the watchman
What's the hour of the night?
We fought with the mighty armies
When they battled with the Huns
Faced the fierce pangs of combat
Heard the roar of mighty guns
But no change came in our condition
When the smoke had cleared away
For the blood we shed in battle
Did not bring the dawn of day
All of our suffering and service
Left us in the same old plight
So I turn to ask my watchman
What's the hour of the night?
The whites are celebrating their freedom
A bicentennial whose praise they sing
But Africans are also jumping on board
Although we didn't get a thing
We're still struggling for Integration
As though it was a glorious fight
So I've got to ask my watchman
What's the hour of the night?
Music is an art or science
In which African men reign supreme
But the story of our progress
Is still a vision or a dream
But we have great voices for singing
But we have no voice in court
Imagine being attacked by police dogs
Just to register and vote
With self-determination
We would have our perfect right
So we turn to ask our watchman
What's the hour of the night?
African men boast of their religion
Though I wonder if they should
When you take an inventory
You'll find them not so good
We build thousands of fine churches
With the dollars that we give
Yet masses of our people
Have no decent place to live
We say God is our rich father
yet we're always in a tight
Watchman strike a match and tell me
What's the hour of the night?
Civil rights laws just for us
Is proof that we're not free
How could we be fooled to think
We had a share in this democracy
When foreigners come here
They're made citizens by choice
Citizenship was imposed upon us
We never had a voice
The passage of the 14th amendment
Took away the right
So you better ask your watchman
What's the hour of the night?
Time is running out for us
A deadline we must meet
To file reparations petitions
And make politicians earn their seats
If we're to win this battle
Every organization must join the Fight
Then we'll tell our watchman
What's the hour of the night.
Queen Mother Audley Moore
July 27, 1950
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Posted: Monday April 2nd, 2007 12:09 |
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"This region has, in song and verse, in political philosophy and action, long been a source for the articulation of both the lamentations and aspirations of black people everywhere.
We are bound by our common African heritage. When Africans were wrenched from their continent, they carried Africa with them and made the Caribbean a part of Africa.........
It is therefore no accident that the vision of an African continent reborn through the unity of its peoples has long drawn deeply from thinkers with their roots in the Caribbean. It is not surprising that our own Solomon Plaatje, a founding father of the African National Congress, should have drawn from that well."
ADDRESS BY PRESIDENT NELSON MANDELA AT THE CLOSING CEREMONY OF THE 19TH MEETING OF HEADS OF GOVERNMENT OF THE CARIBBEAN COMMUNITY AND COMMON MARKET (CARICOM) St Lucia, 4 July 1998
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Posted: Monday April 2nd, 2007 13:04 |
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"Take a glass of water for example. If we place two or three tablespoons of salt in a glass, stir it up vigorously and wait for a few minutes, some of the salt will dissolve but much of it will settle to the bottom of the glass. This is symbolically what happens to the Black collective (the salt of the earth) who are frequently stirred up in the church, which represents the cleansing affects of water. We are routinely stirred up in the church, yet we are consistently settling to the bottom of society."
~Holy Lockdown: Does the Church Limit Black Progress? by Jeremiah Camara, pg 22.
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