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Posted: Sunday February 12th, 2006 17:41 |
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Thoth B3 wrote: Tears cannot be seen in pouring rain, nor can sweat be seen in a dark night
~Mali Proverb
What does that mean?
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Posted: Sunday February 12th, 2006 18:47 |
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Omoshango wrote: Thoth B3 wrote: Tears cannot be seen in pouring rain, nor can sweat be seen in a dark night
~Mali Proverb
What does that mean?
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I am not from Mali, so I can only give my interpretation.
[Tears cannot be seen in pouring rain] I think it means that a person's suffering will go nearly unnoticed in the event of overwhelming circumstances. For instance, during the genocides of Rwanda, ongoing in Sudan, and even of Jews in East Germany, the people's suffering tends to go unnoticed. You even found this during the African Maafa (enslavement & colonization) where our suffering went nearly unnoticed for hundreds of years due to the overwhelming circumstances.
[nor can sweat be seen in a dark night] This part of the proverb, I believe, is a bit more simplistic basically meaning no one recognizes how hard one works unless they can actually be seen.
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Posted: Monday February 13th, 2006 17:59 |
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"Why is black-on-black crime such an issue? Why do our young men hate each other so much that they look their brother in the face and they will take a gun and kill him in cold blood?"
Ray Nagin Jr
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"If you do not understand White Supremacy (Racism) What it is, and how it works everything else that you understand, will only confuse you"
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Posted: Monday February 13th, 2006 18:55 |
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"Any Black child being educated in this country runs the risk of becoming schizophrenic.�
James Baldwin
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Posted: Monday February 13th, 2006 18:58 |
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"Disconnectedness is destruction's keenest weapon against the soul."
Ayi Kwei Armah (2000 Seasons)
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Posted: Monday February 13th, 2006 20:14 |
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"In later years I came to wonder why so many of the black intellectuals in Britain and Europe at that time seemed so uncomfortable and ambivalent about Garvey. The impulse was to scoff at him, to mock him, to jeer at his ideas, to dismiss them as unreal, far-fetched black racism.
For a time I was one of those.
Looking back, I think now that our discomfort with Garvey and his ideas stemmed from a subconscious awareness that he was different from all the rest of us in one singular respect.
He was his own man as none of us was.
We thought, functioned, formulated ideas in a European context. Our ideologies came from Europe: we were socialists, communists, would-be capitalists, liberals, democrats - creatures of the West.
The only thing Garvey took from the West - he had no choice - was its language and its mode of dress and living, otherwise he fitted no Western label.
Where did a black man born near the close of the nineteenth century find the inner resources to be his own man in a world controlled and dominated by white men?"
Peter Abrahams
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Posted: Tuesday February 14th, 2006 16:45 |
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When manhood is shackled, into its place
Nature oft forces a courageous race
Of women, who with heroic spirit,
Stamp within unborn children the merit
Denied their fathers
For what man's disdain
Keeps from one generation, the next will gain
Drusilla Dunjee Houston (1876-1941)
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Posted: Tuesday February 14th, 2006 19:41 |
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"Black man, you are on your own.�
Steven Biko
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Posted: Tuesday February 14th, 2006 19:45 |
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“Liberate the minds of men and ultimately you will liberate the bodies of men.�
Marcus Garvey
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Posted: Tuesday February 14th, 2006 20:04 |
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Breadfruit wrote: “Liberate the minds of men and ultimately you will liberate the bodies of men.�
Marcus Garvey
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I like that one.
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Posted: Tuesday February 14th, 2006 20:17 |
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[The colonizer] provokes and develops the cultural alienation of a part of the population, either by so-called assimilation, or by creating a social gap between the indigenous elites and the popular masses.
As a result of this process of dividing or of deepening the divisions in the society it happens that a con-siderable part of the population, notably the urban or peasant petit bourgeoi-sie, assimilates the colonizer’s mentality, considers itself culturally superior to its own people and ignores or looks down upon their cultural values.
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Posted: Tuesday February 14th, 2006 20:23 |
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Thoth B3 wrote: Breadfruit wrote: “Liberate the minds of men and ultimately you will liberate the bodies of men.�
Marcus Garvey
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I like that one.
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I hear you African!
Many of our great leaders said great things that seemed so simple. This shows us that there are simple solutions to our negative conditions.
We just need to implement them.
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Posted: Tuesday February 14th, 2006 22:04 |
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The distance one must go to find a miracle is the distance between their knees and the floor....
You work it out!
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Posted: Tuesday February 14th, 2006 22:20 |
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"The Tookie Williams execution by the state of California is not just about the efficacy of the death penalty in America, or punishment for a heinous crime, but about the ethics of atonement and redemption in a racist culture and society.
Indeed, the Governor of California in his Hollywood portrayal as the 'terminator' and other violent monosyllabic killers is himself a role model for countless thugs, bandits, and murder[er]s around the globe, some of whom I've met personally.
Liberia's murderous rebels, Sierra Leonean butchers of children, and scores of other misguided youth have adopted the violent persona of .. Sylvester Stallone's "Rambo" and Arnold Schwarzenegger... the 'Terminator!'"
Dhoruba Bin Wahad
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Posted: Tuesday February 14th, 2006 23:00 |
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"The great white man has succeeded in subduing the world by forcing everybody to think his way, from his God to his fireside. He has given to the world, from the Bible to his yellow newspaper sheet, a literature that establishes his right and sovereignty to the disadvantage of the rest of the human race.
The white man's propaganda has made him the master of the world, and all those who have come in contact with it and accepted it have become his slaves." - Marcus Garvey
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Posted: Wednesday February 15th, 2006 18:45 |
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Who are you?
You don’t know. Don’t tell me Negro, that’s nothing.
What were you before the white man named you a Negro?
And where were you?
And what did you have?
What was yours?
What language did you speak then?
What was your name?
It couldn’t have been Smith or Jones or Bunch?? or Powell.
That wasn’t your name. They don’t have those kind of names where you and I came from.
No. What was your name? And why don’t you now know what your name was then?
Where did it go?
Where did you lose it?
Who took it?
And how did he take it?
What tongue did you speak? How did the man take your tongue?
Where is your history? How did the man wipe out your history?
How did the man, what did the man do to make you as dumb as you are right now?
Malcolm X
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Posted: Wednesday February 15th, 2006 19:32 |
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"I consider culture as a rampart which protects a people, a collectivity. Culture must, above all, play a protective role: it must ensure the cohesion of the group.
Following this line of thinking, the vital functions of a body of African human science is to develop this science of collective belonging through a reinforcement of culture.
This can be done by developing the linguistic factors, by reestablishing the historical the consciousness of African and black people so as to arrive at a common feeling of belonging to the same culture and historical past.
Once this is attained, it will become difficult to ‘divide and rule’ and to oppose African communities one against the other.�
Dr Cheikh Anta Diop
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Posted: Wednesday February 15th, 2006 19:34 |
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We must accept the fact that all activities are political and whether they operate for or against our interests will be determined by our developing the ability to realistically assess and control the dynamic relationship between us and our enemies.
Bobby E. Wright
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Posted: Wednesday February 15th, 2006 19:41 |
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The African people cannot be read out of history. Not to know what one's race has done in former times, is to continue always as a child. The African himself, expresses the thought in saying 'knowing thyself better than he who speaks of thee. not to know is bad; not to wish to know is worse'
Julius Nyerere
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Posted: Wednesday February 15th, 2006 19:44 |
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Nice thread:
I like this one.
Can you create a spiritual son with the grace of God
If he is righteous
If he conforms to your values
And if he takes care of your goods as well
Shower him with gifts
He is indeed your true son
He carries the seed of your kin, of your soul.
Do not let your hearts be sundered
But the seed of a man can engender conflict
If your son goes wrong
If he ignores your advice
If he is disobedient and insolent to all that you say
If he is rude and contemptuous
Drive him away
He is not your son.
Ptah Hotep
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Posted: Wednesday February 15th, 2006 20:06 |
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For the Black people to adopt their methods of relieving our oppression is ludicrous. We blacks must respond in our own way, on our own terms, in a manner which fits our temprament. The definitions of ourselves, the roles we pursue, the goals we seek are our responsiblity.
Kwame Ture..
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Posted: Wednesday February 15th, 2006 20:19 |
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The individual, the race, the nation, that helps itself is helped by god. The individual, the race or nation that leaves its destiny to forces completely exterior is doomed, and in the destruction there is no remorse, there is no shedding of tears by anyone but the sufferer himself.
Marcus Mosiah Garvey
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Posted: Wednesday February 15th, 2006 20:29 |
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We are aware that the white man is sitting at our table. We know he has no right to be there: we want to remove him.....strip the table of all trappings put on by him, decorate it in true African style, settle down and then ask him to join us on our own terms if he wishes..
Stephen Bantu Biko..
(An analogy for our times in respect of Blacknet non?)
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Posted: Wednesday February 15th, 2006 21:42 |
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My detractors in the media and elsewhere have questioned my redemption. Their doubt is driven largely by my open apology (....at http://www.tookie.com) to Black folks and others who might have been offended by the fact that I helped create the Crips youth gang in Los Angeles 34 years ago.
My detractors argue that I could not be redeemed because I have not apologized to the family members of the victims that I was convicted of killing.
"But please allow me to clarify. I will never apologize for capital crimes that I did not commit -- not even to save my life. And I did not commit the crimes for which I was sentenced to be executed by the State of California.
"Being a condemned prisoner, I am viewed among the least able to qualify as a promoter of redemption and of peace. But the most wretched among society can be redeemed, find peace and reach out to others to lift them up.
Redemption cannot be faked or intellectualized. It must be subjective, experienced, and shared. In the past redemption was an alien concept to me. But from 1988 to 1994, while I lived in solitary confinement, I embarked on a transitional path toward redemption. I underwent years of education, soul-searching, edification, spiritual cultivation, and fighting to transcend my inner demons.
"Subsequently, the redeeming process for me symbolized the end of a bad beginning--and a new start.�
Stanley Tookie Williams
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Posted: Thursday February 16th, 2006 20:54 |
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"The struggle against racism all along has been a struggle to regain the essential manhood lost after the European expansion into the broader world and their attempts to justify the slave trade.
This struggle has brought us to where we are now, standing on the "Black and Beautiful" plateau. From this position, Black people will walk into another stage, much higher and more meaningful for mankind.
After reclaiming their own humanity, I think they will make a contribution toward the reclamation of the humanity of man.
First they will have to realize that in the kind of world we live in, being Black and beautiful means very little unless one is also Black and powerful.
There is no way to succeed in the struggle against racism with out power. That is a part of our new reality and our new mission."
John Henrik Clarke
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