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Posted: Friday May 4th, 2007 20:01 |
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I'm stuck at work so can't watch it (if anybody knows any of "those" sites PM me now!)
What are your predictions people? Reasoning too!
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Posted: Friday May 4th, 2007 20:19 |
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whens it on and wht channel??
let me know and Ill see if I can hook up a "special" link for you
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Posted: Friday May 4th, 2007 20:25 |
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| It's on tomorrow night probably on sky box office (ppv)
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Posted: Friday May 4th, 2007 20:30 |
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Big fight? Just one great boxer and one boxer who used to be great. De la Hoya ist history...no chance.
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Posted: Friday May 4th, 2007 21:27 |
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2am sunday morning sky sports 1.
Tough one to call. The fight is evenly mathed up with regards to experience.
I think Mayweather might just shade it, he is very fast, has a great chin, never goes downand technically sound. Mayweather trains at greater intensity than Oscar, he trains even when he has no fight agenda. He also has great defence, very difficult to hit.
The slight hiccup might be Mayweather’s stepping up a weight class, Oscar has been performing at this division for ages.
Oscar De La Hoya appears to be the bigger man and might be too powerful for Floyd, that’s if he can get in close and land good body shots and his favourite quick left hooks.
The issue with Oscar is he has only fought once since losing to Bernard Hopkins back in 2004, he has lost 3 of his last nine fights; he also had to lose some weight to make the fight weight.
Its hard to call but im going for Mayweather
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Posted: Friday May 4th, 2007 22:02 |
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I putting money on OSCAR KO1, KO2 KO3 or KO4
He is just too big for Mayweather. I'm pretty sure Prety Boy gets in a couple of sharp body shots but I doubt he has the firepower to really worry ODH who I have never seen really proper hurt
Oscar has that left hook and Mayweather defence is sometimes open to a left hook. Oscar will only have to catch him couple of times flush and it will be goodnight vienna
I want Mayweather to win but he jst bitten off more than he can chew this time round
I worry for his confidence if he loses. Will he 'get on with it' or will he be like Naseem and just crumble
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Posted: Friday May 4th, 2007 22:04 |
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@ CM
FM says he's retiring after this fight either way
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Posted: Friday May 4th, 2007 22:17 |
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Shame if he does. Still feel he has alot to prove. He hasnt dominated a division since he was 135lbs and his resume is missing some i portant fighters( cesameyor, hatton, cotto, etc)
Tell you how clueless the bookies are
Ladbrokes has Mayweather 80/1 to win in the first round, Fair enough you may say
Checked DLH's odds of winning in the 1st round
100/1
So the bookeis are essentially saying that Mayweather has more punch power or better chin. Or both
I'm gettin rich on Saturday
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Posted: Friday May 4th, 2007 22:37 |
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CashMoney wrote: I putting money on OSCAR KO1, KO2 KO3 or KO4
He is just too big for Mayweather. I'm pretty sure Prety Boy gets in a couple of sharp body shots but I doubt he has the firepower to really worry ODH who I have never seen really proper hurt
Oscar has that left hook and Mayweather defence is sometimes open to a left hook. Oscar will only have to catch him couple of times flush and it will be goodnight vienna
I want Mayweather to win but he jst bitten off more than he can chew this time round
I worry for his confidence if he loses. Will he 'get on with it' or will he be like Naseem and just crumble
Yes I do see your point regarding Oscars supposedly superior strength. But he is the one who has been wondering whether to fight. He is the one who hasn't boxed for a year. And he is the one effectively coming out of retirement one more time.
He looked decent in his last fight against Ricardo Mayorga but Ricardo Mayorga isnt in Mayweathes class.
We shall see if his sparing sessions with Shane Mosley have helped him cook up a game plan to nullify FM’s speed.
We all know Mayweather has been boxing regularly, he is at the top of his game and the peak of his powers. He is a different class to those out there. Speed neutralises a lot of disadvantages and I think it might be a telling factor.
Mayweather hasn’t really been hit in all his 37 fights; except when he fought Castillo, he had some sticky moments but he over came that with aplomb. I believe if he can take ODH’s power, then its Good night Vienna to Oscar.
lol@bookies. They can be clueless at times.
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Posted: Friday May 4th, 2007 22:37 |
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| Nah they're saying he'll come out faster and probably assuming Oscar will try to stretch him.
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Posted: Friday May 4th, 2007 23:00 |
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Should be interesting.
Styles make fights.
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Posted: Saturday May 5th, 2007 15:08 |
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Betfair
stuck £2 on Oscar from rounds 1-12 exluding round 2 where I put £3
£25 in total covering every single round and the lowest I will get if oscar wins inside the distance is £70, the highest is £282 if he wins in the 2nd
Ladbrokes, put a pound on Oscar to win in rounds 1-3 at 40/1, 4-6 at 20/1, 7-9 at 17/1 and 10-12 at 16/1
Put a pound on pretty boy to win 10-12 at 17/1
There is no good value bet for a mayweather win. He is unlikely to stop Oscar and he is 2/1 on to win on points.
All in all I've put 30 boys on this fight,
Much like when I put 30 on England to win the world cup, this will be one bet I dont mind losing, although i certainly wont be crying if I win
Last edited on Saturday May 5th, 2007 15:09 by CashMoney
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Posted: Sunday May 6th, 2007 11:55 |
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lol@CM.
How much did you win CM?
I told you guys it was Mayweathers fight. Mayweather stole the fight.
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Posted: Sunday May 6th, 2007 12:01 |
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| Yea Mayweather won, but he didn't exactly beat up on Del La Hoya as he predicted....it was an ok fight nothing more..
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Posted: Sunday May 6th, 2007 12:36 |
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Come on, you know he was never going to beat up Oscar as he claimed, Oscar aint exactly a soft mint.
All his pre-fight bluster and chat, were for show. Its all part of boxing.
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Posted: Sunday May 6th, 2007 13:37 |
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Mayweather was superrbbbbbbbbbbb!
I turned to my friend after the 3rd round and said i've just lost my money
It was not as if he was on his bike for 12 rounds either He stood in front of oscar plenty times and he hurt oscar wheras oscar did not make a single impression on Floyd
Infact if Floyd was a little more reckless I think he could have won the fight y stoppage. As they say, Speed Kills
I worked on the assumption that oscar will catch him eventually. Boy was I wrong
shame if he retires though. I think if he could have two more meanigful fights. Against two of Cotto/hatton/Paul Williams/Margetrito/Winky Wright and then retired on 40-0 that would be better
He hasnt been a champion for 5 years
He has won belts since then but a champion is more then just colecting belts, you have to defend them as well
I reallyw ant him to come over here and spank Ricky hatton
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Posted: Sunday May 6th, 2007 13:58 |
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Im with you on the Ricky Hatton business, i really want Mayweather to take that fight. He will hand Hatton his Ass.
I think Winky Wright might be a tricky fight, Wright is technically superb and has a serious defence system.
I hope he doesnt retire, he still has a lot to offer furthermore 40-0 will look very impressive.
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Posted: Monday May 7th, 2007 16:14 |
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Posted: Monday May 7th, 2007 16:37 |
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I'm going to be contravesial here and state that I've seen Mayweather fight twice and I really can't see what the hype is about this fighter....
And as for handing Hatton his Arse...Personally I thought Mayweather looks a shot fighter nearig the end of his days and I think he knows it too.... If he came back I think there is a good chance he'd get beat..
I still can't understand how he let De la hoya of the hook in the fifth when he clearly had him, then the last three rounds Hoya was clearly there for the taking yet Mayweather couldn't finish him....I just don't think he had in him to put together a sustain attack or the firepower to deal with a 'good' fighter.
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Posted: Monday May 7th, 2007 16:58 |
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Mayweather. Shot???
If I live till I am 150 I will never hear a more ridicolous statement in my life
Mayweather was at his absolute imperious best.
He 'let' Oscar off the hook because if he rushes in to finish and Oscar tags him then he is going to sleep. The only time I ever seen Mayweather hurt- against Demarcus Corley- was when he foolishly rushed in to try and stop the fight
As for The Hitman
Ricky Hatton has two hopes of winning, bob hope and no hope
If at 140lbs I may give him a 10% chance but at 147lbs where the fight would take place Hatton's advantages(strength, intensity) wane and Mayweather will get arrested for assault
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Posted: Monday May 7th, 2007 17:07 |
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CM: Ok you saw the fight right......if Mayweather was sooo good how come de la Hoya face's was totally unmarked after the fight, apart from the fifth when Mayweather staggered the man... Mayweather barely had the man in trouble....in his last fight if memory serves he had trouble putting the last geezer away....
Now i don't doubt he can beat Hatton, but come on, if he meets a fairly compentent boxer with a heavy hand I think he's in problems....if a 35 year old can rough him up in the EARLY rounds think what a fresher fighter will do to him....sorry by like it or not Mayweather is on the slide..doing a Sugar ray on del la hoya doesn't mask that...
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Posted: Monday May 7th, 2007 17:08 |
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CM, You've just echoed my thoughts.
@K
Mayweather did what he had to do, win the fight. He boxed intelligently, there is no way he could have slugged with Oscar.
Hatton was less than impressive in his last few fights and that is at 140lb, you realise he has to step up in weight class and Mayweather would be at his natural weight.
I will tell you this, he will knock out Ricky Hatton within 8 rounds.
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Posted: Monday May 7th, 2007 17:15 |
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| Ok so highIQ...you're telling that mayweather meant to win on a split decision ooooh that makes complete sense NOT!!!!
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Posted: Monday May 7th, 2007 17:16 |
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Kunjufu,
Golden Boy promoted the fight.I seriously think Pretty Boy will be working for him before the year is out ala Hopkins.Can't hurt your boss too much.
I gotta hand it to Oscar at least he fights the best.
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Posted: Monday May 7th, 2007 17:20 |
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| You lot talk such rubbish..so lets get this straight he can trash talk his future boss and virtually insult him in the most disgusting way, but he can beat down on him.....like duh!
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Posted: Monday May 7th, 2007 17:24 |
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Kunjufu wrote: Ok so highIQ...you're telling that mayweather meant to win on a split decision ooooh that makes complete sense NOT!!!!
lol
His first mission is to win the fight, Once Mayweather felt Oscars strength in the early rounds, he knows he cant go gung-ho. That would be suicidal. Most boxers pace themselves in the ring which is what mayweather did. If in the process of the fight there is a chance of Knocking Oscar out, he would have gone in for the kill.
If he got careless he would have gotten tagged by Oscar. Simple as.
The only person that has ever knocked out Oscar ie Bernand Hopkins, So you know Oscar has got a very good chin
But he knew it might be difficult to knock Oscar out, so he decided to steal the rounds. Thats just simple boxing. Roy Jones did it most of his fights.
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