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Protest over Blunkett's Sizzla ban on 11.11.04
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 Posted: Wednesday November 10th, 2004 19:33

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I wrote a couple of weeks ago about Homosexuality being racism and white supremacy I hope you were taking heed.   These peoples action prove my point, this has got nothing to do with men putting their penises into another mans gastro intestinal track, this is all about whites using their power of us as a people

So let us fight back we don’t have to kill these people  but we can resist them just the same way as the African Anglican church will no longer be sending their bishops to be trained in Europe or America because their promotion of Homosexuality within the church constitutes an anti Afrikan act.  We as African in the UK, British Black, Afrikan British what every you want to call yourself as long as you have been bless with Melanin.  You can also say we are not going to promote or endorse homosexuality because it against one of the fundamentals of being Black.  Simple straight and to the point.

All who can make it please be there and please remember there are always negros (Black Face with white heart) who will want to see you fall, they maybe there instigating us into violence. That is not what we are there for.

Protest over Blunkett's Sizzla ban
Thursday 11th November
3-5pm
Outside the Home Office, Petty France, SW1
(Opposite St. James’s Park Underground - Circle and District Lines)


Sizzla is the artist who gave us tunes like Black Woman and Child.  Thank You Mama for the nine months you carry me and can your white god save us from white man oppression.

This is what the so called homosexuals are afraid of. Black women and child with their Black man next to them. They want men and men to co- habit and drive us in gender confusion and racial suicide

 

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 Posted: Wednesday November 10th, 2004 20:15

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runfromyourwife wrote:
Derrick

My Boy

Count me in!

Save one chicken neck homostanksual for me!

Hope it kicks off

Gots ta kick me some faggoty ass! and throw away dem shoos

Got to *light* up that Fridge bizniz!


I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET OUR POINT ACROSS SERIOUSLY AND WITH THE RIGHT NEWS COVERAGE. ANY WHERE THESE ANTI-REGGAE PROTESTERS ARE, WE SHOULD BE THERE.

I HOPE THAT THIS CAN BE CONDUCTED PEACEFULLY AND WITHOUT VIOLENT INCIDENT SO THAT OUR POINT WILL NOT BE SUPERCEDED BY ACCUSATIONS OF MOB MENTALITY (A POPULAR STRATEGY IN MEDIA CIRCLES!).
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All the best for tomorrow

Hope it all goes well

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 Posted: Wednesday November 10th, 2004 20:33

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I hope it goes well for tomorrow..unfortunately i think you choose a really bad day.. given that it is Armatice Day tomorrow i think you message will be lost!!



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Derrik_Kerr, what is wrong with you, you fool, being gay isn't against being black? What kind of stupidness is that? Do you know how many black men and women are gay and live in fear because of idiots like you.

And before i start getting accused on dis ting, no i'm not gay, i'm completely straight BUT i respect someone's decision to live their life how they feel.

I despair of all of this foolishness :(

You are just scared, of sumfing that isn't you, you just hate and don't embrace a person for who dey are.



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IM NOT SURE HOW THE DATE OR TIME WAS CHOSEN.  I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OUR PROTEST WILL FALL ON DEAF EARS OR NOT BUT THE IMPORTANT THING IS FOR US (PROTESTERS) TO BE UNITED AND TO FOCUS ON OUR AREAS OF CONCERN.niceone.gif



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I am not homophobic or anti anything. I am pro Black end of story. I am against the promotion of this type of misbehaviour especially to children as an alternative lifestyle and I am against anyone who say I cannot say that I cannot resist white supremacy because of my Afrikan morals  The Afrikan Anglican church did so why can’t we. I know the system of white supremacy and I know negros who want to integrate into the white mainstream most don’t even participate in this type of behaviour but would never raise voices to defend their Afrikanness. When all these rapper are killing N****rs and b**ches in their songs I have never you raised your voice so why are you so concern about a rich well financed white homosexual?  Do you even understand the morality of survival?

Homosexuality is Racism and White Supremacy

This article is taken from a piece I wrote called “An introduction to white supremacy� but I have extracted and expanded this part on so called “homosexuality� as they have made it clear their intentions to attack the Afrikan community, so we should counter strike and setup plans of action to prevent them from holding us to their economic terrorism of boycotts and bans.

I want to first and foremost want to thank a Washington based think tank called Positive Kemetic Vision (PKV) for this piece of research and especially The Irritated Genie of Soufeese who has produced a DVD called “The Effeminisation of African Males�. And also Brother Keidi Obi Awadu for owns http://www.libradio.com for airing the programme.

Over the last say 10 years there has been a sustain campaign to link so called “Homosexualityâ€? with our struggle for freedom and justice (I deliberately omitted equality as I personal do not want to be equal with a race of people who destroy, murder and kill so we will leave that one out). 

We have people like Peter Tatchell who targets Black entertainers for boycotts and attempts to get then throw off tours and their music banned.  He never does the same for white entertainers like Eminem who talk about killing so called “Homosexualâ€? (we will get why so called later). So what I saw was duplicity in his logic.  

I am not even defending dancehall music or hip hop as I find it misogynist and promotes hypersexual behaviour but I will defend Black people who are under attack and don’t even know it.


Origins of White Sex

So let us break down this type of behaviour remembering that in any type of argument like this if you take it out of its historical context in makes no sense.   I call this behaviour “white sexâ€? because this is purely a European phenomenon.  The first literate Europeans and the corner stone of western â€?whiteâ€? civilisation can be found in Greece and an empirical part of Greek culture was for men even married men to have relationships with young boys this is why I do not call this misbehaviour homosexuality. Intimate relationships between older adult men and male youth were not only common, they were considered “a social duty to the state.â€?  They would meet the boys at the gymnasium, which was the place men could look at the naked adolescence and then they were taken away for their sexual deviance.

So within this Greco-Roman Culture this is not Homosexuality this is child molestation which they called pederasty (man to young boy sex.  So deeply rooted was this type of misbehaviour that within the Greek mythology, Zeus (King of the Greek gods) turned into an eagle and descended on to earth to kidnap Ganymede (The most beautiful young boy) and take him to Mount Olympus for a sexual encounter. Further still the greatest European philosopher Plato says “pederasty alone can fulfil a man’s highest and noblest aspirations, a woman’s love is totally inferior, a purely physical impulse who’s sole purpose is the procreation of life.â€?   So every other year in the UK they attempt to bill passed through parliament for lowering the age of consent. In the “united snakes of Americaâ€? they have NAMBLA (North American Man-Boy Love Association) promoting the same ideology, lobbying the senate to legalise this type of misconduct.

How did we get it?

European culture is full of this type of decadence but today we follow willingly into this cesspit of degeneracy.  Afrikan people have NEVER indulged in this type of behaviour no matter how many Black men they say are on the “down lowâ€?.

In his book “No More Lies about Africa: Here is the Truth from an Africanâ€?, Chief Musamaali Nangoli writes these words:  "Homosexuality is taboo in African society.  Ten years of exhaustive research across the continent didn't produce any evidence of homosexuality having been a part of African life".  He went
on to write that "Men in Africa for example hold hands, but only as a brotherly gesture.  Yet Western scholars have misinterpreted this as an act of homosexuality.  “Yet another cruel lie!â€? Afrikan men will walk with arms over shoulder but this would never mean putting a penis into another man’s gastro intestinal track.

This is interjected behavioural patterns and one thing which should be analysed is when these so called homosexual got their first sexual encounter.  You will find that most of them were molested but they will tell you it was them expressing their own sexuality even thought they were only 8 years old.

Afrikan people first experience with this was during slavery and colonialism, where young girls and boys were raped and ravaged by slave masters.  What type of trauma would a person go through if for hundreds of thousand of years your people have known that sex is between a female and male who were meant to be complimentary partners in the journey of life and then you are forced to accept this perversion by a sexual predators.

Effeminisation of Afrikan Males

If you have ever studied European history and you should because it is the only history taught all over the world to Afrikan people then you should know the extent of this anal fixation. Once again I must thank Brother Mwalimu Baruti who has a book called “Homosexuality and the Effeminisation of Afrikan Malesâ€? in which he broke down how a homosexual climate was force upon us during slavery with a method called “Buck breakingâ€?.  If an Afrikan males resisted white power and was rebellious then they would create a circle with all the Sister and Brothers on that Plantation and the man would be raped in the middle in front of everyone. This created a psychological impact of there is no black authority.  This Black male cannot protect his mother, wife or children he cannot protect himself and hence mothers would grow their children passive, effeminate and gender confused this continues even today. 

That is in our history which can never be forgotten but in 2004 the same terrorism comes from the mass media.  They use Ving Rhames who stared in Rosewood as a strong black man who resist white power, then they put him in Pulp fiction again as the strong rebellious man but then out of the blue he is raped in the middle of this movie (psychological “Buck breakingâ€?). And then he his turn out and gender confused in a movie called Holiday Heart where he is in drag for the whole movie.  If this does not start to define paradigms in your head about your sexuality they pull out their stealth bomber in the shape of Oprah Winfrey who does a show about gender confused 5 year olds boys who want to be girls.  This woman is sick.  Oprah Winfrey, Bill Cosby, and all these other self hating negroes who perch down on our people from their comfort zones and criticise our people (Personally I did not have a problem with Cosby’s critique per se) but when you take our behaviour out of the context of this terrorist society we live in then I have to raise question of their knowledge of the situation we are in.  Cosby also produced a cartoon called “Fat Albertâ€? and he also did some of the voices, which spoke Ebonics and slang the character and got up to  nothing but degenerate behaviour so he has made millions define how are kids should act and when they do exactly what he has define he criticise.   So he has donated millions of dollars to Morehouse and Spelman colleges and both are home to some of the largest Homosexual fraternity in America. 

What I trying to get out is that we never started this way, generational rape and assault and left us damaged mentally.  Think about it 10 years after the “Trench Coat Mafiaâ€? shot up a school in Columbine. Doctors, psychologist and other are counselling the victims.  We have NEVER had any healing from the trauma we have face and you wonder why we participate in our own demise.

So when Beverly Knight (10 Minutes on Newsnight chastising Beenie Man) and all these other talk about alternative lifestyle.  Just give them a short lesson in their history which was not in “Rootsâ€?. The Europeans consider the ultimate death of an African was the white hot rod up the anus or left to bleed to death after a stake in the ground has been rammed and perforating the anus and guts. You must know that when brothers were lynched their penis was usually cut off. So this anal and penis fixation is deep, too deep, I not even going to try to analyse that mess. 

Defending African Culture

So as a Man I resist “white supremacyâ€? and I will allow the morals of our ancestor who lived and died so we can be here, guide us.  Our ancestors were against this so called “homosexualityâ€? not as some bigotry but it was one definition of White dominance and power. This is not Afrikan culture it constitutes an anti-African act.  Being a homosexual is Anti-African end of story and I have the right to defend our culture.

In most African and Caribbean countries this type of buggery is illegal.  In Zanzibar they have had to increase the sentence to 25 years for this because European men where going on holiday and taking advantage of the poor young boys, this is the same in Haiti, Asia and others places, they are called sex tourist and in fact my recent trip to Egypt reveal that they have tried to ban single white males from going south pass Aswan (Nubian Territory) because they are infesting that area with their amoral activity.

Real Agenda is White Supremacy

We know Peter Tatchell hates Robert Mugabe we hear the stories of him attempting a citizen arrest and boycotting of the Zimbabwean cricket team but again taken out of context you would think this has something to do with the Europeans fantasy of so called Democracyâ€? and “Rule of lawâ€?. We never hear the part about Robert Mugabe spending 11 years in prison for resisting white power, and the torture and sodomy he was subjected to which would make Abu Gharib prison look like nothing at all;.  So as I say we must resist this and try to get our Sister and Brothers who indulge in this mess to come to their senses.  Part of the horrors of our enslavement and colonisation was the imposition of white sex upon us, on our children as a show of white power. So their real agenda is total white supremacy.  We accept their economics system, their laws, and their standards of beauty everything from Euro-Americans and now the ultimate they can get us to accept their decadent maladaptive sexual behaviour through a process called cognitive conditioning using mass media.  Every night you are bombarded with a barrage of so called homosexuality, Will and Grace, Queer eye for the gay guy, MTV Base etc and after a while through a process of cognitive conditioning you begin to believe “hey this is ok this is how “normalâ€? people behave.â€? 

Standing up and defending our community

Where is our Black/African (wo)manhood who will stand up against this so called homosexuality and child molestation? We are not Europeans, we have our own ethics and morality but they have been so far eroded that known child sex offenders with questionable ethical behaviour of putting children who are not family, into their beds with them are being defended by our community because they make good music and when I raise questions about this I am sidelined as a “haterâ€?. Where same sex endeavours is being promoted on TV at 5.00pm when my children are watching.  I do not want to see two men or women giving each other a tongue bath any time before the 9.00pm watershed.  We must start using people like http://www.ligali.org to complain or go straight to the ofcom about this type of clandestine behaviour.

If fact let us start calling out this type of misbehaviour and the members of our community who engage in these deviant sexual practices. This is not homosexuality they have cleverly used the power of lexicon to make you believe that you have a choice of being either heterosexual or homosexual by making close word association.  The type of misbehaviour use to be called Greek Love or Socratic Love but I like PKV definition “White Sexâ€? and people who engage “white sex offendersâ€?.  Now we can group all that mess under one title.  I talking about people you love rapper with their pornography video woman and woman grinding on each other “white sexâ€?.  R Kelly pissing on our under age daughters “white sex offenderâ€?.  E Lynn Harris the ladies favourite man with his carnal activities in his books “white sex offenderâ€?.  And of course everyone favourite Michael Jackson putting children in his bed, matter not whether he trouble them he might of just being looking at the naked adolescence he is a known “white sex offenderâ€?.

Turn off the Idiot Box

We have to first get out of our minds this “celebrity worshipâ€? putting these degenerate who would pimp their mothers if there was a pound to be made, out of the houses.  Parents start listening to the music your children listening too. If you can’t make decision for a 5, 10 or 15 year old then hand back in your parenting license and give your kids to someone who understands how to guide children into the right direction.  . Young Black male need strong male role models in their lives uncle, brother anyone especially if their father is gone. But be careful remember there are predators in our mist who prey on the vulnerable and defenceless for sexual gratification. Someone who can replace 50 Cents and Ja (I cant wake up without doing drugs) Rule as the images of how to be powerful and effective men in the community. We must also start turning off the damn TV and let our children and ourselves take pride in reading a book (non-fiction).  Remember during slavery not only were we brutalise we were prevented from reading for almost 300 years. We have a lot of reading to catch up on.

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 Posted: Wednesday November 10th, 2004 22:48

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 Posted: Thursday November 11th, 2004 19:45

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I have just returned from the Black Music Council's protest against Outrage and in defence of Sizzla Kanonji.
I arrived outside the Home Office at about 16:00 and the first thing that struck me was the lack of police presence. I joined the rest of my reggae brothers and sisters outside the Home Office and was handed a placard and some literature about the protest.

The protesters took it in turns to voice their concerns about the treatment of Sizzla Kalonji both in the 'press' and in regards to his inability to perform live without opposition. We sang Sizzla songs (as well as songs from the other 7 artists who are on the 'murder music' hitlist) in between speechs. It was so surreal to be standing outside the Home Office during the day singing Bob Marley's 'One Love'! There was a healthy amount of support (100-150 people) and our presence was definitely felt.

At about 17.00, at the end of the protest, we all filed into the road and blocked it off for about 20 minutes while chanting - 'BUN BAD MIND!'. We didn't want to leave but after persuasion from the organisers we all made our way home, without incident.

I didn't see any members of the mainstream media present but there were independent photographers and videographers there. I was surprised at the lack of support from those who are prevalent in the reggae industry ie. promoters, record companies, reggae artists, radio and sound system djs,etc. I saw Vinyl Star, Quincy D(millenium supreme), Dj Bandit(climax radio)and a couple others who I didn't get to introduce myself to. It is a shame that those who disapprove of the way Sizzla is being treated in private, are unable to do so in public.

I look forwrd to seeing what impact this protest has made and l look forward to attending further rallys. I would like to thank Blacka Dread, Dr X and the other members of the Black Music Council and all the protesters. It was well organized. Hopefully there will more support in the future.

Was anybody else there this afternoon? How do you feel it went?

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There was no press there at all?:shock: I'm asking because this has been such a far reaching story and I am surprised they didn't cover this.



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@ Ashanti (lovely name).

 

I was told that Sky News were to speak with Dr X (one of the organisers) but pulled out.  I think there was a journalist from the New Nation but other than that - nothing.  I f we started to throw bottles, you get be rest assured that the mainstream would have covered it extensively.  Maybe it didn't get the coverage because as, Kunjufu pointed out yesterday, today is Armistice Day.



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@Tony Sparks et al. Only now saw this..Well done brother for turning up and doing the worki....

FBniceone.gif. SK is probably my best contemporary artisit but a bit too much dance hall creeping in for my likes and slacknessconfused3



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 Posted: Thursday November 11th, 2004 21:07

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Tony Sparks wrote:I f we started to throw bottles, you get be rest assured that the mainstream would have covered it extensively. 

For real, it happens here too...when it's a chaos-free event, you can bet, they won't attend but the minute the sh*t hits the fan, they are all over it .

But it is inexcusable that more press wasn't there. It is amazing to me (their lack of interest in this protest) on many different levels aside from the fact, that this a huge story....but on the issue of equal time/fairness....if one side is given coverage, the opposing side is supposed to get the same treatment as well at least it was that way when I was in the field. But more than that, these stations and newspapers, have reporters assigned to beats (crime, entertianment, sports, health, etc) so even if there was something else going on today, that is no excuse for those who didn't cover this, not to have sent someone. What about your black press? Were they represented?

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Fredblack wrote: @Tony Sparks et al. Only now saw this..Well done brother for turning up and doing the worki....

FBniceone.gif. SK is probably my best contemporary artisit but a bit too much dance hall creeping in for my likes and slacknessconfused3


Respeck FredBlack.  Have to agree with you about the slackness of some of his tunes.  it does show, however, that Sizzla is not one-dimensional......like most of us!



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But it is inexcusable that more press wasn't there. It is amazing to me (their lack of interest in this protest) on many different levels aside from the fact, that this a huge story....but on the issue of equal time/fairness....if one side is given coverage, the opposing side is supposed to get the same treatment as well at least it was that way when I was in the field. But more than that, these stations and newspapers, have reporters assigned to beats (crime, entertianment, sports, health, etc) so even if there was something else going on today, that is no excuse for those who didn't cover this, not to have sent someone. What about your black press? Were they represented?

By the way....thanks for the compliment on the name.niceone.gif


Evening Standard - 1/11/04 and the London Tonight programme - 2/11/04.  Both of these were one sided in their reporting and presentation of this issue and both made no attempt to be serious journalists by neglecting to include a representative with a contrary point of view to their story.  So it surprises me not that they weren't present, although a little bird has told me that the Evening Standard have subsequently attempted to contact the BMC (Black Music Council), as a result of the criticism of their misleading reporting.

As for the black press,  I believe the New Nation had a representative but  I wasn't aware of any other publication, which doesn't necessarily mean there weren't any.

I hope there were because this protest was well conducted and well attended.

@ A s h a n t i( hmmmmm.....).

  

 

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Yes - Tony Sparks

Full respect to you for representing and for the report back - indeed this is doing the work.

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Thanks for answering. If any of your television stations run something tonight or if the protest makes any of your local papers tomorrow, please let us here at the village know.niceone.gif



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@ Ashanti, Runforyourwife and Ladyday, it was my pleasure.  Can i have some mana now?blktype



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 Posted: Thursday November 11th, 2004 21:57

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LMAO!blkbrukteet



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 Posted: Thursday November 11th, 2004 22:48

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Tony Sparks wrote: @ Ashanti, Runforyourwife and Ladyday, it was my pleasure.  Can i have some mana now?blktype

tony sparks..lol.ya know what they say beggers can't be chosers

but well done!

btw why don't you inform the media before hand, im sure you would grab their attention!? Or if all else fails riot black man style..lol



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