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Posted: Friday July 23rd, 2004 10:17 |
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5,000 PEOPLE CAN’T BE WRONG! CAMPAIGNERS TO DELIVER PETITION AND DEMONSTRATE OUTSIDE JAMAICA EMBASSY,1-2 Prince Consort Road, Kensington, London, SW7, JULY 28, 2004,10-11.00 am. Our petition is now closed. Thanks to all those who signed on-line and apologies to those who could not. Your help is still needed. Stand with us outside the Jamaica High Commission and demonstrate against road deaths on the island. Last year, 15-year-old Londoner, Allison Beckford, was killed less than 24 hours after attending her uncle’s funeral in Jamaica. Allison, like so many, was the victim of a reckless drivers. Since then, the Allison Beckford Campaign (ABC) for safer roads in Jamaica has campaigned to reduce the numbers of road deaths on the island. The first year anniversary of Allison’s death will be marked by a demonstration outside the Jamaican High Commission, 1-2 Prince Consort Road, Kensington, London SW7, on Wednesday 28 July between 10 and 11 am. Please visit our website – http://www.allisonbeckford.com and keep up with developments. Use your voice. Join us outside the Jamaica High Commission and demonstrate your intolerance of the situation on Jamaican roads. Thank you. - together we can make a difference -
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Posted: Friday July 23rd, 2004 20:22 |
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@Sweetpea. There is something wrong with the electronic petition. Excellent idea. The issue of road deaths in the Caribbean is a national disgrace..Lack of regulation, lack of technology, lack of sufficient police officers in the various traffic/transport division.
Those guys get away with literal murder. Private drivers, but transport/bus drivers are the worse and don't give a damn about ordinary people's safety..
Feel very strong on this..Always glad to the JA people rally. Good work...
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Posted: Saturday July 24th, 2004 10:47 |
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Thanks for your comments and support. I've checked the web, it seems to be okay now. Tell all your friends to petition and, if you can, join us on Wednesday.
We're all tired of talking about the roads in Jamaica, now's the time to act. Check the website for further action by Allison Beckford Campaign (ABC) organisers.
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Posted: Saturday July 24th, 2004 12:19 |
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Yes sweetpea road deaths in Jamaica are a disgrace. Everytime I have been there there is some major accident. That flatbridge is ridiculous. And in the rain? Damn.
And the public drivers do anything to earn a dollar a bit quicker. Overtaking on bends when you have people life in your hands. No wonder drivers have to flee the scene of accidents. They deserve a severe beating.
Good cause. I will sign it too.
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Posted: Saturday July 24th, 2004 12:27 |
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Same thing in Zimbabawe...
The inter city roads are narrow (single lane) and bendy. Bus drivers always race full speed down these roads on both sides. They always crash and dozens die. its a disgrace! I saw the wreckage of such a crash once.... Never knew it was the same elsewhere.
Ill sign it
It wont let me! says something about wrong parameters
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Posted: Sunday July 25th, 2004 22:25 |
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@Sweetpeas..Petition still not working..Sis You have my full commitment on this issue here and I intend to follow developments with great seriousness. Can I say in advance I will not attend the meeting as I have a policy of attending only a few meetings a year personally as I don't have the time.
One meeting invariably leads to another which is cool unless you have a heavy time table which requires great discipline in how you use your time. So I am encouraging those who have the time to give that kind of support.
But if it comes to having people at rallies of Caribbean government or whatever, I will assure I have people there. You can guarenteee that.
What I will do is to do what I can in terms of rallying people using our contacts, particulr our people from JA who I will crack the whip to get them out and active. I will also rally letters and that kind of thing which I can do by phone, PC etc and get the word to other black forums type things which I am aware of..
Can I suggest something and I will probably do myself but think it important to raise. While this issue is specific to Jamaica, it is Caribbean wide. To my knowledge apart from the really really small islands only Grenada, Barbados for obvious reasons and French Martinique which is a highly regualated place and Dominica do not have this problem.
This issue needs to be raised at the CARICOM level. I can guarentee we will get island wide support on this matter, because I have seen demonstrations on this matter on most islands. The support is there across the board and this will not only help Jamacian but all Caribbean people in terms of getting a higher and wider profile and discussion.
Also the campaign team needs to use the power of not only Jamaicans here which is very considerable, particularly financially as Jamicans abroad keep Jamaica from descending into civil war and keeps governments out of trouble, because people abroad contribute big time to the finances of the country, both directly in terms of money to family but constant visits and communication.
Moreover we need to use the tourist angle which these people are very very susceptible to, because they care more about foreigners and Jamaicans abroad than local people. Equally, Jamaicans here do not live in isolation to other Caribbeans who visit the place constantly. That is an important lever that must be used.
FB..Sis get somone on that site quickly. If you want to rally people the means has smooth and efficient and definitely effective. A person who just decide on the institnct to sign the petition may not come back if it is not working...So action stations on that ...
FB
By the way good work to all the brothers who have responded positively on this most pressing issue to ordinary people..
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Posted: Tuesday July 27th, 2004 20:55 |
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Hi Fredblack
We don't seem to have a problem with the web. We've checked it and tested it and it seems to be fine. Please ensure you fill out all the fields, especially the email address, and it should work.
Thanks for your message of support. Once we've demonstrated we can start our next plan of action. Any help you can offer will be gratefully appreciated as, although we are fighting for change, support is not always forthcoming when things have to be done!
We will be following up on some of your suggestions. Keep looking on the web for more infor.
Wish us luck for tomorrow. Once again, thanks for your support.
Sweetpeas.
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Posted: Tuesday July 27th, 2004 21:00 |
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@ Sweetpeas
I put in all the info but still get the message about parameters...
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Posted: Tuesday July 27th, 2004 22:27 |
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Strange.I had no problems.
I got the confirmation email back as well.
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Posted: Tuesday July 27th, 2004 22:35 |
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Posted: Thursday July 29th, 2004 13:40 |
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Sweetpea; sorry I'm ate to respond unfortunately I've been out of the country, I tried like Fred to sign the petition but I'm having problems too. I'll try again later.
On the issue of Allison's death, I would go further than fred and say that its a problem endemic to countrys with extreme poverty. Having been in Jamaica last year, Poor Allison death is no surprise as crashes (especially head on crashes), were a daily occurance. From my observation the issue is greatly ecomonically driven as much as culturally driven i canm say without fear of contradiction that the driven in Jamaica is the most reckless I have ever seen anywhere. The Jamaica authorities are taken overt measure (not enough in my view) to change this but in this respect unless there are some serious measures taken to break this dangerous driving practises (mainly by rival taxi's and dollar buses) there will be many many more needless deaths.
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Posted: Friday August 6th, 2004 19:50 |
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| I can say the same thing happens in Nigeria, it is terrible and shocking. Many people die on Nigerian Roads, it is alarming, it has something to do with poverty. You can't force people with cars that are not road worthy off the road because there are just too many of them. The roads are in terrible condition, I also agree that reckless driving is also a major cause of accidents. When you put all this together + highway rules not been enforced, the result is high number of accident, and high number of fatalities. Even with the poor condition of the Hospitals, few or no emergency service personnels, then you are expecting the worse.
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Posted: Friday August 6th, 2004 21:47 |
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i see..........
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Posted: Friday August 6th, 2004 22:56 |
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@All is it me...cos this thing aint working for me.....
Will have to send manually it would appear
@Saint..very very interesting. Read about what you outlined in a book by Chinua Achebe, the name slips me...But common problem. Except much much bigger in Nigeria given massive size difference. But thanks for that help to remind us and put into another persepective.
There would be war in this country if people innocent people lost their lives like that...
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Posted: Sunday August 8th, 2004 01:15 |
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@Fred
True words spoken and good advice given I agree this should be a collective petition for all those with the same problem. The whole situation is terrible my young cousins in Jamaica like most Jamaicans unfortunately see these accidents as a norm I say this because two young cousins of mine 10 and 12 have been in two mini van accidents on the way to school and even though the bus turned over they simply (by the grace of god survived) said they trod on people to get out and then went on to school........absolutely shocking. I will never forget the day they told me this as this is when I fully grasped the seriousness and frequency of these accidents due to careless driving.
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Posted: Sunday August 8th, 2004 04:41 |
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@Queen Madet. Feel very passionate about these issues on too many levels to go into. But when you consider the amount of black people who lose their lives on a daily basis not only on the roads, workplace and don't even let me start about water travel and an experience I had going from Martinique to Dominica, to see that our lives or those of our families backhome is seen as dirt cheap and not even human.
I remembered while I was on the boat an incident in either Ghana or Gambia where hundreds drowned and it was not a reassuring experience.
When we assess the body count, especially in a small miniscule region like the Caribbean. It would be better if we lost those lives in war or fighting to remove wickedness and corruption in our lands.
At least we would have done some national service in educating our people and move them even one inch forward. Most revolutions in the Caribbean usually only involve small numbers of fatalties and a only a few days of military action at that. For real. Cuba being the exception but even then quite small.
I went to St Lucia about seven years ago to see my aunt and family and while we were going into the house she was telling me about the number of crahses on a blind bend near the house. Before we got through the door we heard a massive crash..Two minbuses had crashed going the round the bend. One trying to over take and going into the other lane only to run straight into another at speed.
We were unpacking our cases about an hour later and would you believe, BLAM YES another crash. We thought we were in a war zone. They built a brand spanking dual carriage way on what is called the Choc Highway. The thing was just opened and two bus drivers with vehicles packed, decided to race on a dual carriage way in a tunnel.
Like little children trying to get to the other exit before the other one. For what I ask?. No need to go anyfuther. The top of one of the buses was cut off clean and killed literally 90% of the passagners. My family told me, the body of the driver and those in the front seats were an abolute mess, even by Caribbean standards.
This cannot be allowed to go on. Do you know how many crippled people there are in the region of all ages and when you hear the story...Vehicle accident. There is no welfare state, so we know the ecnonomic consequences.
I think these issues are critical to us as Africans abroad and it is something completely within our resources and competence. Marcus Garvey is dead and is not going to come back to us for now. So we have to teach our people how to fight, even by using small and humble action within our capabiilties and resources. But with extremely important consequences.
We can do a whole heap by very little action or with humble contribution and this kind of case or issue is perfect. All it takes is a small number of people to act and get out the word and make sure people carry out their commitments and keeping them informed and in the loop to what the outcome has been from their contributions.
We cannot claim that we belong or come from countries but do nothing, even humble things to assist our own families, villages/communities, when in many cases we are better positioned to have some impact than they are. You create and reinforce you sense of community and unity with your people by small meaningful action.
That is why I say we have to learn to fight, because it is the small things which create bigger things. You create a real and meaningful Jamaican, or Antiguan or Ghanian or Nigerian community abroad when acting on the behalf of people and your own interest back home. Do you know how many visiting people have been killed in road incidents?
These issues are good for developing your community on every level.
About 7 years ago we got the call from Eastern Caribbean governments about the US behaviour in going back on agreements made between the EU and US and the African, Caribbean and Pacific states concerning bananas. We are the major growing banana region and produce the best fruit in the world.
Clinton wanting Latin American support stabbed us in the back, literally plunging tens of thousands of agricultural workers and farmers into crisis and having a massive ripple effect on the whole systems eg banking because heavy agriculural regions borrow money for heavy machinery plant hire and all kinds of stuff. People could not pay their mortgages, or their bank loans, service industries were suffering because nobody to buy foreign goods etc
We got the call to rally the Eastern Caribbean community, island by island and to write British MP's etc Bernie Grant, may he rest in peace was an absolute hero and solider, people like Brian Sedgemore and other white MPs who have warm feelings to the Caribbean and where our people are their constituents did there bit raising it in Parliament and the whole shabang.
We did not get the US to reverse the decision. Being good solidier does not mean winning battles. But the impact was very heavy. I met people from my island I did not know who knew family. I was pleasantly suprised to see how many of our people were educated and highly skilled from all walks, many of whom became good associates from which other things grew etc.
But more importantly, our contribution was played up big time in the region and the Prime Minister spoke about it in depth and from that point really begun to make strategic efforts to posiitively address not only our people here in terms of national development, but lay the foundations for many of our people to return, especially the young.
Moreover, they brought in policies which helped our parents who were in the islands in terms of tax relief and a whole heap of things, people in say Barbados simply take for granted. So our actions benefited our people in many many ways..
But it is also critically important for our children, so they realise our countries are not somthing distant, but a living part of their reality and duty and potential future. In the same way Jewish children grow up here collecting money, contributing to things in Israel without even thinking about it. Just natural to them. Hence the high status and treatment of Jews abroad in Israel without whom they know they would be done for long time.
This helps to break down the home and foreign negative mentality that exists in all the black world which is a barrier for progress.
So for me this is a MUST DO
FB
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