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Posted: Wednesday April 25th, 2007 18:55 |
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not sure if this is posted before but got it in an email so i am sharing it
Hi all,
>
>After attending a talk on the abolition of the slave trade late March
me
>and my bother Marc had an idea of setting up a website in petitioning
black
>history to be a part of our schools national cirriculum. After having
left
>the presentation we had both felt the impact and the shame on our lack
of
>knowledge on how much we have contributed to this world. Most
importantly
>how we have been conditioned to view it as purely negative (racsim/
>slavery) due to our ignorance which I can honestly say has indirectly
>discouraged me.
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>However, God is good!!! As an online petition for NIEC in response to
the
>DFES Educational Review has been set up. Please read and sign this
>petition to include black history into our national cirriculum and
continue
>to pass it on.
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>Thanks to Kat xxx
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>http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/niec-response-to-the-dfes-educational-review.html
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>Signs of our youth academically under achieving, lack of postive
>influential role models on our tv screens besides entertainers and
>athletes, negative peer pressure (i.e not cool to be clever at school)
and
>the gang culture is a sure sign of our youths isolation (mainly male)
>througout our education system today. Our youth must be educated into
how
>our ancestors were once kings and queens and particularly during the
18th
>and 19th century we were inventors of thousands of products, items and
>foods that we take for granted today, which brands and trade marks
have
>overridden. Mainly because black inventors were only allowed to
patent
>there creations during such difficult times.
>
>Sorry to have waffled but do sign and pass on!!!!!!!!!!!!! My hands
up to
>those parents who dedicate the time to educate their children on our
>history. There is a bookshop in Stoke Newington that sell children
books,
>i believe it is called Stoke Newington Bookshop.
>
>As Malcom X once said "we would be a fool to allow the enemy to
educate our
>children".
>
>Thanks
>
>Nats
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Posted: Thursday April 26th, 2007 09:04 |
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Posted: Friday April 27th, 2007 15:06 |
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It has been my aggravating task for many years now; to convince Black people that their history is NOT about American slavery: that is but a blip in the passages of time. But rather: about the establishment of civilization and the invention of all the things necessary for modern life - except electrical technology.
The reality that their view of the world – and themselves; is the result of Brainwashing of a sorts, seems beyond them; so since you brought up Malcolm, lets see what he has to say on the matter.
Malcolm X
The following is an excerpt from a speech recorded on January 24th 1965 Ancient Black Civilization "Now then, once you see that the condition that we're in is directly related to our lack of knowledge concerning the history of the black man, only then can you realise the importance of knowing something about the history of the black man. The black man's history - when you refer to him as the black man you go way back, but when you refer to him as a Negro, you can only go as far back as the Negro goes. And when you go beyond the shores of America you can't find a Negro. So if you go beyond the shores of America in history, looking for the history of the black man, and you're looking for him under the term Negro, you won't find him. He doesn't exist. So you end up thinking that you didn't play any role in history.
But if you want to take the time to do research for your-self, I think you'll find that on the African continent there was always, prior to the discovery of America, there was always a higher level of history, rather a higher level of culture and civilisation, than that which existed in Europe at the same time. At least 5,000 years ago they had a black civilisation in the Middle East called the Sumerians. Now when they show you pictures of the Sumerians they try and make you think that they were white people. But if you go and read some of the ancient manuscripts or even read between the lines of some of the current writers, you'll find that the Sumerian civilisation was a very dark-skinned civilisation, and it existed prior even to the existence of the Babylonian empire, right in the same area where you find Iraq and the Tigris-Euphrates Rivers there. It was a black-skinned people who lived there, who had a high state of culture way back then.
And at a time even beyond this there was a black-skinned people in India, who were black, just as you and I, called Dravidians. They inhabited the subcontinent of India even before the present people that you see living there today, and they had a high state of culture. The present people of India even looked upon them as gods; most of their statues, if you'll notice, have pronounced African features. You go right to India today - in their religion, which is called Buddhism, they give all there Buddhas the image of a black man, with his lips and his nose, and even show his hair all curled up on his head; they didn't curl it up, he was born that way. And these people lived in that area before the present people of India lived there. The black man lived in the Middle East before the present people who are now living there. And he had a high culture and a high civilisation, to say nothing about the oldest civilisation of all that he had in Egypt along the banks of the Nile. And in Carthage in northwest Africa, another part of the continent, and at a later date in Mali and Ghana and Songhai and Moorish civilisation - all these civilisations existed on the African continent before America was discovered.
Now the black civilisation that shook the white man up the most was the Egyptian civilisation, and it was a black civilisation. It was along the banks of the Nile which runs through the heart of Africa. But again this tricky white man, and he's tricky - and mind you again, when I say this, it's not a racist statement. Some of them might not be tricky, but all of them I've met are tricky. And his civilisation shows his trickiness. This tricky white man was able to take the Egyptian civilisation, write books about it, put pictures in those books, make movies for television and theatre - so skillfully that he has even convinced other white people that the ancient Egyptians were white themselves. They were African, they were as much African as you and I. And he even gave the clue away when he made his movie, "King Solomon's Mines," and he showed the Watusis, you know, with their black selves, and he outright admitted in there that they looked like the ancient pharaohs of ancient Egypt. Which means that the white man himself, he knows that the black man had this high civilisation in Egypt, whose remains today show that the black man in that area had mastered mathematics, had mastered architecture, the science of building things, had even mastered astronomy.
The pyramid, as the white scientists admit, is constructed in such a position on this earth to show that the black people who were the architects of it had a knowledge of geography that was so vast, they knew the exact centre of the earth's land mass. Because the base of the pyramid is located in the exact centre of the earths land mass, which could not have been situated by it's architect unless the architect in that day had known that the earth was round and knew how much land there was in all the directions from where he was standing. The pyramid was built so many thousand years ago that they don't even know the exact time it was built, but they do know that the people who brought it into existence had mastered the science of building, had mastered the various sciences of the earth and had mastered astronomy. I read where one scientist said that the architecture of the pyramid had built a shaft that went outward from the centre of the pyramid, and the place it marked in the sky was the location where a star, a blue star I think, some kind of a star, made an appearance only once every 50,000 years. Now they say that this architect's knowledge of astronomy was so vast that he evidently had access to histories or records that spotlighted the existence of a star that made its appearance at a certain spot in the sky only once every 50,000 years. Now he could not have known this unless he had records going back beyond 50,000 years. Yet the pyramid is a living witness today that the black people who were responsible for bringing it into existence had this kind of knowledge.
When you read the opinions of the white scientists about the pyramids and the building of the pyramids, they don't make any secret at all over the fact that they marvel over the scientific ability that was in the possession of those people way back then. They had mastered chemistry to such extent that they could make paints whose colour doesn't fade right until today. When I was in Cairo in the summer, I was in King Tut's tomb, plus, I saw that which was taken out of the tomb at the Cairo Museum, and the colours of the clothing that was worn and the colours inside the tomb are as bright and vivid and sharp today as they were when they were put there some thousands of years ago. Whereas, you know yourself, you can paint your house, and have to paint it again next year. This man hasn't learned how to make paint yet that will last two years. And the black man in that day was such a master in these various scientific fields that he left behind evidence that his scientific findings in that day exceeded the degree to which the white man here in the West has been able to rise today. And you must know this, because if you don't know this, you won't really understand what there is about you that makes them so afraid of you, and makes them show that they find it imperative for them to keep you down, keep you from getting up, because if they let you up one inch, you've got it and gone - just one inch, you've got it and gone. And you should get it and go.
Just behind the pyramids is a huge statue which many of you are familiar with, called the Sphinx. The people who live over there call it Abou Al-hole, which means "father of everything". This too was put over there so long ago they don't know who did it, nor do they know how long ago it was done. And they marvel at it. What causes them to marvel is the fact that the black man could have been at such a high level then, and now be where he is today, at the bottom of the heap, with no outer sign that he has any scientific ability left within him; he thinks that he has to turn to the man for some kind of formula on even how to get his freedom or how to build his house. But the black man by nature is a builder, he is scientific by nature, he's mathematical by nature. Rhythm is mathematics, harmony is mathematics. It's balance. And the black man is balanced. Before you and I came over here, we were so well balanced we could toss something on our head and run with it. You can't even run with your hat now - you can't keep it on. Because you lost your balance. You've gotten away from yourself. But when you are in tune with yourself, your very nature has harmony, has rhythm, has mathematics. You can build. You don't even need anybody to teach you how to build. You play music by ear. You dance by how you're feeling. And you used to build the same way. You have it in you to do it. I know black brickmasons from the South who have never been to school a day in their life. They throw more bricks together and you don't know how they learned how to do it, but they know how to do it. It just comes to you. That's what makes you dangerous. When you come to yourself, a whole lot of other things will start coming to you, and the man knows it."
The histories and accomplishments of the people that Malcolm spoke about, as well as many others, can be found here: http://www.realhistoryww.com
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Posted: Friday April 27th, 2007 15:29 |
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Thats some classic stuff man deserves more than a thumbs up, have always said the same thing about rhythm, harmony and balance....
But the black man by nature is a builder, he is scientific by nature, he's mathematical by nature. Rhythm is mathematics, harmony is mathematics. It's balance. And the black man is balanced. Before you and I came over here, we were so well balanced we could toss something on our head and run with it. You can't even run with your hat now - you can't keep it on. Because you lost your balance. You've gotten away from yourself. But when you are in tune with yourself, your very nature has harmony, has rhythm, has mathematics. You can build. You don't even need anybody to teach you how to build. You play music by ear. You dance by how you're feeling. And you used to build the same way. You have it in you to do it. I know black brickmasons from the South who have never been to school a day in their life. They throw more bricks together and you don't know how they learned how to do it, but they know how to do it. It just comes to you. That's what makes you dangerous. When you come to yourself, a whole lot of other things will start coming to you, and the man knows it."
Thanks J9x3.
*edditt*
Still... would you say that our, 'balance finding' is now working against us in the sence that we seem to adapt, find that balance and harmony in the most awkward of places and of situations...?
Too easily content and therefore undemanding in that way?
I mean our adaptation to enviroments is why we are the kings (and queens) of culture, as all the various cultures are simply adaptations to diverse enviroments and climates.
''I do this because my enviroment is of that''
If you see my point. The street thugs and gangsters are (obviously) a product of their enviroment and have created a culture in which to ensure survival within that enviroment. We could all get up and start building but we have settled, created a culture of our disposition that we need to snap out of or drastically change.
.lol. Sounds obvious when its put that way.
In my opinion its why we can be so stubborn, tribalised, each person/unit has created a personal culture of their (which then totals to our) dis-position in order to better survive in the current climate or form of oppression.
You could explain the need to adopt a more rooted stance to the more europeanised of us but his mode of is along the lines of, 'if you can't beat them...'. He has found a form of balance, created a culture of his own self denial, mostly in order to deny that he's at all oppressed. Nothing is wrong in his world we're, 'Just not being like them enough'... we apparently haven't found the balance that he has.
The same goes for many if not all of us, as we're all in diffrent climates from house to house, town to town, state to state, ''My mode of survival is thus... who are you to tell me anything... Who are you to shirk me from my comfort zone'' - ''What bluud, who is you?'' Its all the same.
Don't hand out leaflets anymore, did it for a while but it used to annoy me, the childish grins on peoples (elders!) faces as they avoided me. The very same people who'll go home and talk about how black people 'don't do anything' or how 'those shottings/stabbings are terrible' contradicting themselves in complatency forgeting their own part in those problems and their own ability to put a stop to it as they've created a common culture of denial and apathy amongst themselves. Its like talking to a nation of buddahs with their own philosophy and mantras enabling them to become one within a position of oppression.
blah blah blah
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Posted: Friday April 27th, 2007 15:52 |
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^Hup^
Edditted post.
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Posted: Friday April 27th, 2007 20:01 |
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Apedemak; if you have followed my posts at all, you have noticed that it is nearly impossible to get most Black people of ANY age; to accept that there might be a different reality; one outside of that which they have been taught and have come to accept. And that’s okay; I’m not expecting Black people to all of a sudden cleanse their minds of all that they know (or thought they knew), and once again be Lords of the Planet. That’s not going to happen, it’s too much trouble to go to; when there is no chance of immediate benefit. Plus many; because of lifestyle issues, simply wouldn’t have the ability to do it anyway.
That brings to mind what the British did to the Chinese in the late 1800s. In those days, the trade between Britain and China was pretty brisk; however it was mostly one way, apparently the Chinese didn’t much care for British goods, but the British loved Chinese goods. The British were going to be bankrupt pretty soon: their solution – Flood China with Opium. It didn’t take long for them to get their way. Of course after a while, the ordinary Chinese rose up with the BOXER REBELLION in 1899, though it was only partially successful, it did serve notice.
It might be interesting for you to look-up the boxer rebellion; and note that you will rarely find a reference to it being about Opium or trade, but to this day in China; the penalty for it’s use is death. The ability to grasp the cause and effect, and the significance of the subsequent retelling of this history in a completely different way: is beyond most, and I understand and accept that.
But what I do hope for; is for the Blacks of today, to give the Blacks of tomorrow, a fighting chance. That is the reason that I responded to this thread, Blacks can’t seem to get it out of their heads that Black History is NOT about slavery or the 18th 19th centuries. Here in America, there is a whole month devoted to Black History: and because of ignorant Black leaders and scheming Whites: what do you think that Black history is about? You guessed it, slavery and 18th – 19th century Blacks. At the very best; this could be called; Black American history. And even this would be inaccurate – Black history in the Americas goes back many thousands of years. (This is another of those concepts that most Blacks find difficult to grasp).
Anyway, at the end of most of my posts you’ll notice that I leave the realhistoryww link. Hopefully, sooner or later, someone will take the trouble to read it – or at least just look at the pictures (the sites got hundreds). Even if they don’t accept it for themselves, I hope they will at least pass it on to the children.
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Posted: Friday April 27th, 2007 21:00 |
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Are you Black? Not that it matters, you're not ignorant at all but you use the term, ''Blacks'' as though you're of another race. That site is brilliant, have to admit I've studied various topics surrounding but don't connect with some of it, partly disbelief I guess. Have to approach things like that with skeptism but as its such a deep topic its tough to refute to then better understand.
Why do you keep promoting it? Did you write it?
The chinese were smart, they took everything the English/Europeans tried to wow and amaze them with, mostly mechanics and weapons that use mechanics e.g; that damned Maxim gun and they duplicated it, improved on it to the point where the Far east is 10 years + ahead of the west in regards to technology.
Respect those people, they must've laughed at the Europeans talks on the, ''missing link'' at around that time. Always good to see them being beaten at their own game.
It might be interesting for you to look-up the boxer rebellion; and note that you will rarely find a reference to it being about Opium or trade, but to this day in China; the penalty for it’s use is death.
Do you think we should do the same? Omit the slavery part of the Maafa or the Maffa in general? Have been meaning to make a topic quoting sections of a book by a Zulu shaman he explains a lot some should click with the information on your site. In his book he talks about (blood) wars and how they teach their children exactly what started the war,
''Even if they are too powerful a nation,'' he says, ''we teach generation to generation exact revenge when they can.''
Without Roots would we have the same image of what an injustice has been done to us? Granted it does hurt to know we were defeated and made subordinate but its that that makes my blood boil as a Jamaican. See you're point in general, it'd lessen the impact as it were, as though its not that an important part of our history to be taught or dwelled on at all but wouldn't it muffle that cry for justice as it were? .lol. Getting a bit poetic there.
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Posted: Friday April 27th, 2007 23:27 |
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Apedemak; you asked; Are you Black? That’s a very curious question. The answer is yes, but I’m curious as to why you asked it, please let me know. If I didn’t plug the realhistoryww site what would I use for example? There is no other of that type and quality. Yes, there is the work of Winters and Diop plus a few others, but nothing as easy to read and complete. The fact that even with all the pictures and factual history, you still found it hard to believe, tells you why I keep plugging away, deprogramming is not easy.
Quote: Do you think we should do the same? Omit the slavery part of the Maafa or the Maffa in general?
The problem isn’t about remembering it: It’s about hanging on to it like a Bulldog, to the exclusion of dealing effectively with your current situation and your world. Only the weak use misfortune as an excuse to give up. Revenge may be sweet, but what do you do in the meantime? My own suggestion is that you should live well in the meantime.
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The question was probably asked due to events of time's past.
http://blackchat.co.uk/theblackforum/view_topic.php?id=22830&forum_id=34&jump_to=334344#p334344
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