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Posted: Tuesday March 9th, 2004 15:42 |
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This is probably more relevent to the Londoners out there but from the press release the black african website http://www.ligali.org below you will get the jist of the story. Henry Bonsu up intill recently was quite a prominent TV and radio broadcaster on BBC London Radio 94.9. I just wanted to know your views on the matter or whether you agree with points made out below. Remeber to register your vote for Henry at the website address above! 
On Sunday 29 February 2004, Presenter Henry Bonsu’s topical and popular radio debate show was brought to an end. The big questions that desperately needs an answer is why? Henry inherited the ‘black Londoners magazine’ show from comedian Eddie Nestor, and turned the horrendously scheduled four hour slot into a compelling forum activism and awareness highlighting issues affecting all Londoners. Together with his silent producer Helen Bart, they pro-actively engaged all those who were interested in challenging the continuing socio-economic deprivation facing the African British community. Far from simply profiling the usual faces, they conducted extensive research and located many individuals and organisations who would been otherwise excluded from having the opportunity to be heard on the wide-reaching BBC station. A typical show would include guests from mentoring agencies, anti-racist organisations, independent publishers, culturally aware community organisations, historians, politicians and poetians, journalists, television and radio presenters, the list goes on. Henry’s show gave them all an equal platform from which to share their opinions, experience, solutions and visions of hope and empowerment to London and digital listeners world-wide.
Despite the obviously positive and proactive content of Henry’s show, a few disgruntled listeners complained that he was ‘racist’, ‘that there was no outlet Asian concerns’, and even that listening to ‘black’ concerns was ‘boring’. Inevitably, the needs of the African British community were once again sidelined and the BBC Radio London management decided to oust Henry from his show, leaving the disgruntled and selfish racists content and an entire community without one of the best BBC programmes in years. No warning, no previous announcement and as always, no consultation.
And now the facts.
The BBC Asian Network was launched on October 28th 2002 in a blaze of publicity with Sonia Deol as it's flagship presenter. With its total listeners across the country reaching almost half a million, this means that 1 in 5 Asian Britons now listen to the station. In comparison, the multicultural mono genre BBC 1Xtra launched in August 2003. It was originally marketed as the home of ‘Black’ music but has failed abysmally in attracting significant audiences from the diverse African British community. Its official figures of 331,000 listeners a week are a result of its narrow remit consisting mainly of African American pop music. This BBC radio clone of MTV Base has similarly marginalised African British artists, its minimalist phone in and debate show means that the young in our community are once again without a public forum.
Ironically, the BBC had to defend 1Xtra after a top reggae producer accused them of encouraging gun crime in the UK and again when some listeners accused the tagline ‘the home of black music’ as being racist… a word that is often banded around by people who resent anything being associated with the African people.
When asked about the Asian Network, Jenny Abramsky, the BBC’s Director of Radio and Music said ‘I’m very pleased that the Asian Network appears to be reaching sections of the community who have previously felt under-served by the BBC.’
We in the African British community ask when will the British Broadcasting Corporation acknowledge that we too have been under-served, misrepresented and caricatured as a community with no interests outside music for far too long? Henry Bonsu has been axed from the only BBC programme that focuses uncompromisingly on a section of the British population consistently underserved by the BBC. Consequently, we request that Henry be reinstated with immediate effect.
Bring Back Bonsu.
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Posted: Tuesday March 9th, 2004 19:43 |
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Axed DJ accuses BBC of failing black community
Claire Cozens
Tuesday March 9, 2004

Bonsu: ' There's nothing out there for black people who want talk radio that examines the issues affecting them'
A black BBC London radio presenter sacked for being too "intellectual" for the station has accused the corporation of failing to address the issues affecting the Afro-Caribbean community and is considering setting up a rival station.
Henry Bonsu, an Oxford graduate whose Sunday night show on BBC London - formerly known as GLR - included interviews with prominent figures in the black community, said he had been inundated with messages of support since he announced live on air that he was being axed from the station.
He accused the BBC of failing to provide a highbrow alternative for black people and said there was a growing demand for a station that addressed black issues in an intelligent way.
"I won't go gently into that good night. The desire for a talk radio station specialising in black issues is very strong. Since my show was axed I've had emails from doctors and lawyers, all asking what they can do to help," said Bonsu.
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to that by launching 1Xtra. There's the Asian Network for the Asian community, but there's nothing out there for black people who want to listen to talk radio that examines the issues affecting them." Mr Bonsu said he was considering launching a commercial station to fill the gap in the market, although he stressed that the idea was in the early stages.
"I've built up years of knowledge of black issues and I've had a number of emails saying I should do something," he said. BBC London said Bonsu was being replaced because he had failed to "connect" with audiences, and listening figures for his slot had been low. The station's website advertised Bonsu's show as offering "intelligent debate".
But the station's managing editor, David Robey, said the presenter's "intellectual approach" did not fit with the station's agenda.
"It was a question of fitting in with our personality and style, which can be seen and heard in characters like Vanessa Feltz and Danny Baker," he said. "They are big, full-on, opinionated people. They are highly articulate and intelligent, a description that also applies to Henry, but they are also quite rooted. I feel Henry's approach has been too intellectual, not quite colloquial enough."
But the presenter said he had not been given enough time to prove that the highbrow format could work."I thought I would be given more time. I started the show on September 19 and was told two weeks ago the BBC was ending it, so I've only had one Rajar," he said, adding that low ratings had been a "station-wide problem" until recently.
"BBC London was off the radar before they brought in well-known presenters like Danny Baker and had a rebrand," he said. Bonsu worked for BBC London for four and a half years, including a stint as presenter of the station's drivetime show. Among his more controversial guests have been Winston Silcott, whose conviction for the murder of PC Keith Blakelock was overturned in 1991, and the black radical author Professor Tony Martin, whose book The Jewish Onslaught about "the Jewish role in the black Holocaust" caused an outcry.
He will be replaced by Amina Taylor, the editor of Pride magazine, who has already guest presented shows for BBC London.
Ironically the station is also taking on another recently ousted black presenter, Geoff Schumann, who will host a Saturday lunchtime show. Schumann was axed from the breakfast show on black London radio station Choice FM after it was taken over by Capital Radio last week. Capital said the company wanted to make the breakfast show more "female friendly".
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Posted: Tuesday March 9th, 2004 19:49 |
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it is more than clear to see that the bbc does not give the black community quality shows. if Bonsu has been ejected for being too intellectual what does this say for their attitude to black ideas and wants. do they think we all sit down and listen to base or that the crouches was worth the wasted pennies. bear in mind they have given crouches a new writing line up but will this take away from the fact that it is just bad. could they not have just got one of many black writers to do show.
in january greg dyke claimed that bbc hit its target by employing 1 in 10 ethinic minorities. but where exactly as the tv dribble coming out does not show. when will get another taverniers.........plus what has happened to black britain which at time good black intellectual thought and focus. does our political awareness scare them 
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Posted: Tuesday March 9th, 2004 19:54 |
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Posted: Tuesday March 9th, 2004 20:31 |
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Posted: Tuesday March 9th, 2004 21:09 |
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Though i never listened to Bonsu the need for a black radio station that DOESNT PLAY MUSIC 24/7 is much in need. Personally I stopped listening to choice FM about 5 years ago because they played no original music and it was all music. Can get good talk shows on pirate though (LWR 92.0 tuesday nights). But knowing they dont have our interests at heart in so many areas of life why i ask myself do we expect it. It like " they should teach more black history in schools" no they shouldnt I say. Do we as black people expect Europeans to teach our history in a true light and denounce themselves in the process. It wont happen in a 1000 years.We should teach more black history ourselves to our children in our own schools. Hope Bonsu gets to start his own station cos its sorely needed. But to expect the BBC to provide the service i feel is unrealistic. Given that its a government institution and many of the issues we need to address (such as building of self esteem in the youth dem, via history, example, listening to older brothers/ fathers/mothers having concious debates) is not in the interest of this system. Knowing that why expect the service.
Solution: Create our own media etc.... but i aint begging them nothing, because when you get it still cannot express yourself freely. Just thinking now...., advertising my business on our own African minded legit station with london wide coverage..., can see a nice fat wedge there...
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Posted: Tuesday March 9th, 2004 21:27 |
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i am not in london but the fact is we need intellectual highly at that shows. i feel the bbc should get rid of bbc1xtra which is youth based junk and replace it with the African-Caribbean Network with shows aimed at our people across the uk. a mixture of talk music debate politics news etc. why are we shortchanged and yet again asians getting good stuff. i hope bonsu does set up his own show i hope he does a uk wide one. luckily enough i can get the odd 1 or two pirate stations from notts as not even the local bbc's african caribeean show seems to have us in mind.
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Posted: Wednesday March 10th, 2004 14:39 |
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To LadyDay and Mansamusa
Thabk you for your comments. Yeah yhis is an outrage and I wish our community would make a lot more noise about it. I mean sacked for being too 'intellectual' what the hell does that mean?!  BBC Radio London is a talk radio station that is there to provide public forum for Londoners to air there views and to engage in a constructive debate on topical issues . Henry Bonsu was the only real main means that for the black community in London to engage in this public forum. Black people in this country are being short changed again. We need a station that deals with social, economic and cultural issues in the black community rather like the BBC Asian Network. Let's face it's good that we have a station that plays various forms of black or 'urban' music and that artists who would be deemed to be too underground also get to reach a wider audience. However 1 xtra is runs more or less like a Radio 1 (or Choice FM for that matter ) with music 24/7. We need radio programme or a station that deals with black issues both intellectualy and with insight!
Personnally I think Henry would be better starting up his own radio station. In the post Greg Dyke era the news of Henry's sacking doesn't surprise me. And in future we may see a further squeeze on minority output.
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Posted: Wednesday March 10th, 2004 23:57 |
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Oh sugar, I've only gone and started a whole new topic in the Open forum about Henry without seeing this one.
In fairness to 1Xtra tho, they're the only half-decent competition to the now Capitol-owned Choice; aimed at the more younger audience I think that should still remain. But axing Bonsu is well out of order though, it's not as if I wanna have to rely on populist Choice, New Nation or The Voice all the time for public black forums.
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Posted: Thursday March 11th, 2004 01:11 |
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Rizla:There are for me a number of interconnecting issues here that I think needs to be separated to make sense of all the issues..
Henry Bonsu.. Is correct with more of us moving into middle age and therefore weanting something a bit more than wall to wall music...There is most definately in my opinion a market for a 'serious' black station. This is reflected in the growing numbers phoning mainstream talk shows and Community stations such as Powerjam & Galaxy.
However on this point i have two concerns on this issue;
1. I don't believe that we (blacks) should be begging anyone for any service, if people want such a service then its time to support it by putting money where our collective mouths is..and stop expecting the enemy to provide us with a proper service it won't happen.
2. also Given the recent fate of Kiss, Choice & LWR before that, I'm NOT even convinced that having a so-called legal black franchise is the way forward.. If it is not watered down by legal and broadcasting constraints, the betting is strong that it will be sold if successful to the nearest white boy with money...history tells us this..
On the issue of Henry Bonsu.. I have to say that I'm now finding his unedifying behaviour of bleating to anyone who will listen about discrimination distastful and annoying.. If we accept that a white owned BBC is defacto racist.. I would still have to be balanced and say that Henry's criticism is not reasonable, the fact is in comparison to their main rivals the BBC clearly has more Black presenters that any other competitor..Many of whom have next to no Black presenters of any type at all.. It is therefore slightly disengenuos to claim Racism in this context..
This brings me on to my final point, you know there is a big difference in being 'intellectual' and being able to convey an idea intellectually..big difference... So whilst I therefore would not begin to even question Henry's credentials.. But speaking as someone who did listen to Henry on the old drive time show and then on Sundays..Especially contrasting and comparing him to say Eddie Nestor (black).. Sorry but Henry simply wasn't up to it.. If truth be told, whilst he had good intent and ideas, his presentation was akin to listening to paint dry.. he is too bland, has no passion and no opinion worth taking notice of...put simply the man had no edge..
Point here is that it seems to me that what is being overlooked here is that Henry was simply not good enough to carry a 3-4 hour show by himself.. If has he now asserts that he intends to start his own station and this is a success then I'll be glad to be proved wrong..however sadly I do not think that this will be the case somehow..
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Posted: Friday March 19th, 2004 18:10 |
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I would say that Heny Bonsu was intelligent and intellectual. He was also well respected by the wider community. I stumbled across his late night Sunday shows and do not ever recall hearing trailers for them.
He was very good at the Drive time Show and it was a pleasure to hear somebody who came across as intelligent rather than "Street Smart" as this is the only acceptable type of intelligence the wider community usually has of Black people "Cunning" rather than " Enlightened"
If he does his own station then, then I look forward to a more deeper and considered analysis of issues that affect us as a community than "talk Radio" Shouting matches.
I would say that Henry Bonsu (even though he was a Manc) was the younger and Black Version of Robert Elms, who has considerable following by doing it in his own style and not being an idiot.
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Posted: Friday March 19th, 2004 22:43 |
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@All have to confess I don't listen to enough radio and have never listen to Henry enough, even though I have heard him on several occassions and had time for the things I heard and how he presented himself. But not able to talk hard one way or another.
But have to support Kunjufu down the line. It is offensive not only what is happening to so callled black media outlets and we are in this actual position. But deeply humiliating to hear people cry about racism. And what?. Whatis new?
About time we start to act like adults rather than bleating and whininng like dependent children.
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Posted: Tuesday March 23rd, 2004 15:14 |
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@ Kungjufu.
Thanks for your comments regarding the sacking of Henry Bonsu. Ok Bonsu may have not had the skills to articulate and engage in a debate as well as Eddie Nestor but I think it is self defeatist to say that a 'so-called legal black franchise' is not the way forward. It sounds like you are shooting yourself in the foot. On the one hand you are saying that we should not be begging a service from any one but then you use the examples of Kiss and LWR to point out the inevitableness of it all.
Equally if black people are willing to invest time, money and energy we can create and hold onto our own media outlets. But to say that it is inevitable is not only pessimistic but actively perpetuaing the mindset that whatever we try to do or achieve we always come to a stumbling block. Anyone in any business will tell you that key to success is to work hard, put in effort and learn from mistakes and appreciate hard times as good will come of them. Just as you said that HENRY should not bleat about racism, we should not bleat about the lack of ethnic media if we are not prepared to be pr-acive and do sumthing about it!
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Posted: Tuesday March 23rd, 2004 15:51 |
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rizla wrote: @ Kungjufu.
Thanks for your comments regarding the sacking of Henry Bonsu. Ok Bonsu may have not had the skills to articulate and engage in a debate as well as Eddie Nestor but I think it is self defeatist to say that a 'so-called legal black franchise' is not the way forward. It sounds like you are shooting yourself in the foot. On the one hand you are saying that we should not be begging a service from any one but then you use the examples of Kiss and LWR to point out the inevitableness of it all.
Equally if black people are willing to invest time, money and energy we can create and hold onto our own media outlets. But to say that it is inevitable is not only pessimistic but actively perpetuaing the mindset that whatever we try to do or achieve we always come to a stumbling block. Anyone in any business will tell you that key to success is to work hard, put in effort and learn from mistakes and appreciate hard times as good will come of them. Just as you said that HENRY should not bleat about racism, we should not bleat about the lack of ethnic media if we are not prepared to be pr-acive and do sumthing about it!
Rizla: do you know the history of Kiss,Lwr and choice and more to the point how they came about? the point I'm makiong is that people DID get involved and did campaign to get these so-called Black only stations.
The point is unfortunately that with most Black owner business they sell out to the highest bidder, that is why I no longer have any confidence in black enterprise meeting our needs.. The fact is historically Choice sold us out almost from the get go..
I'm not bleating about lack of Black stations I'm moving the discussion on to say that we need to seiously question who we have represent us and how future enterprises are owned and managed.. choice Fm in my view should be a blue print of a how NOT, in future..
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Posted: Wednesday March 16th, 2005 08:40 |
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| I stumbled on this thread after putting the word "articulate" in the search engine...Where is Henry Bonsu these days as thinking about it I haven't even seen him guesting on "The Wright Stuff" either for a while...
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