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Posted: Wednesday January 26th, 2005 17:35 |
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"We believe in a 13-month year. We follow the Julian calendar, which is Ethiopian. We have 28 days in every month, no more. So January is the 13th month and January 7 is the birth of the earth," Kassa, a priest, explains.
The official name for Bobo Camp, also referred to as Zion Hill, is the Ethiopia Africa Black International Congress Church of Salvation. Their motto, which is written in a combination of Marcus Garvey and Rastafarian colours - green, black, red and gold - reads: 'Freedom, Redemption and International Repatriation' ..."
For the Bobo Shantis, Christmas comes in January (please click here to read the story)(please click here to read the story)
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Posted: Wednesday January 26th, 2005 21:43 |
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I remember the Bobo Shanti in Bull Bay, and i remember that certain times of the year, rastas from abroad usually visit this area, why was this and does this still happen?.
Is the bobo shanti increasing or are they decreasing in size?.
i known that as bobo dreads, there are certain questions which are considered rude to ask, however i am just curious to find out more about what's happening.
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Posted: Thursday January 27th, 2005 02:17 |
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This is very interesting...
It's been in the back of my mind for a very long time that the world should be following a 13 month calendar instead of the one we currently have.
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Posted: Tuesday February 1st, 2005 11:28 |
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The Rastafarian movement - and there seem to be 2-3 varieties - is certainly interesting in that despite having been transported to the West, these particular Africans refuse to bow to any European image of The Creator and see The Creator in their own image (as indeed most other races do, and as The Right Excellent Marcus Mosiah Garvey recommended that we do some 90 years or so ago).
Ironically and sadly, I understand that there are still countries in West Africa where there remain huge roadside images of some Eurpoean impostor purporting to be the historical figure now known as Jesus Christ.
The effect on these populations must be most debilitating mentally.
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Posted: Tuesday February 1st, 2005 12:06 |
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  I agree......the effect is debilitating....this is just another why of undermining the power, strength and majesty of the black race. We as a people have been systematically destroyed form the inside out because they've taught us our history began with slavery.
Do I follow the false image...I used to, but what I was being fed and shown didn't sit right with my spirit........and so I never really believed.
But my BIBLE tells me that his feet were burnt like bronze and he's hair was like lambs wool.
THEY can not find me a white man , who has skin, the colour of bronze and hair like wool, naturally (when I say that I mean no miscegenation)
Why are so many BLACK people prone to believe that.....it's makes me angry.
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Posted: Tuesday February 1st, 2005 12:47 |
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Fair enough and I agree whole heartedly about that.
But can someone (of Rasta faith) explain to me why you worship Haile Selassie?? This has always baffled me.
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Posted: Tuesday February 1st, 2005 13:14 |
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I'm not a Ras...but my mother, brothers, step-father and uncle are....my understanding of what Rastafarians believe in is
Rastafarians believe that God is a spirit and that this spirit was manifested in King H.I.M. Emperor Haile Selassie I.
Rastafarians believe that Jesus was a direct descendant of King David and was black.
Rastafarians believe that the Ethiopian Solomonic Dynasty is a direct representation of King David.
Rastafarians believe that they are the original Lost Tribes of Israel that were once scattered by Babylon until the appearance of His Imperial Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie I.
Rastafarians believe that God will return them to Zion (Rastafarians refer to Ethiopia as Zion).
Rastafarians believe that Ethiopia is the Promised Land and that it is Heaven on Earth.
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Posted: Tuesday February 1st, 2005 19:18 |
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Marcus:
The Rastafarian movement - and there seem to be 2-3 varieties - is certainly interesting in that despite having been transported to the West.....
When you say transported to the West...are you talking about black people or the Rastafarian movement itself?
From what I know Rastafarism isn't an African practice, but a relatively new religion that started in Jamaica last century.
I've always grouped Rastafarism with the Nation of Islam and Voodoo.
Relatively new Diasporan black religions that contain some aspects of ancient African knowledged mixed in with bits and pieces of Christianity.
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Posted: Sunday March 6th, 2005 17:29 |
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I think the answer to your question would probably have been apparent had you chosen not to delete some of the words that I posted:
"The Rastafarian movement - and there seem to be 2-3 varieties - is certainly interesting in that despite having been transported to the West, these particular Africans refuse to bow to any European image of The Creator and see The Creator in their own image (as indeed most other races do, and as The Right Excellent Marcus Mosiah Garvey recommended that we do some 90 years or so ago) ..."
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Posted: Tuesday January 31st, 2006 14:33 |
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This Bobo Rastarian guards the entry point to the important areas of the camp, like the tabernacle where the camp members pray.
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Posted: Tuesday January 31st, 2006 14:54 |
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Drunk Monkey, I am not rasta..but I've rad several books about north american faiths....
Rasta saw the emergence of Haille Sellasiie....and that fact that Ethiopia was the only kingdom/state in Africa to not be colonized by european powers as some sor tof divine sign.....Abbysinia's knee never touched the ground.....when throughout the continent.....brave restistance by Africans to european domination was being squashed....
Ethiopia defeate dItaly at Adwa and later kcked them out of their country when they ocupied it......
Only country to never be colonized in the continent...source of pride to Blacks worldwide....and seen as Godly act...when Blacks were catching hell all across the globe at the time...and Ras Tafari.."prince" tafari....aka haille sellassie was the leader...at the time...
Plus what Miss Nyomie said.....
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Posted: Tuesday January 31st, 2006 23:22 |
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This is truely interesting. I have always had respect for true Rastas. I dig their faith.
Good read.
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Posted: Wednesday February 1st, 2006 21:47 |
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Always got time for Rasta
Much of my education of self came from times spent with men and women, op in the hills and on beaches in Jamaica; with men and women, some who had never been to school, talking about Africa, Slavery, Colonialism and Jamaica.
They taught me things that were later confirmed and re-enforced by the works of great historians, when with maturity, reading became something I took more serious.
Rasta's presence in the UK during the 1970's, 1980's allowed much of the generation that followed, to take for granted, their African Abroad, identity.
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Posted: Saturday March 11th, 2006 16:55 |
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Im Hotep,
Rastafarianism may have taken shape in the Caribbean, but the focus of Rasta is Afrika. Ras Tafari himself was an Afrikan.
Not all Rastas follow the Bible and consider Haille Selassie to be God. Some Rastas read the Quran or the Kemetic Scriptures, and some read none at all. I learned this from spending time with Rastas last year. There is a wide variation of beliefs and practices, many of which are unfortunately misunderstood by the mainstream.
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Posted: Saturday March 11th, 2006 17:22 |
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...not forgetting the rastas who jumped on the Bob Marley wagon and used it as ean excuse to sire as many Bob Marleys of their own...i.e breed white women.
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Posted: Saturday March 11th, 2006 19:04 |
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HatHaruhotep wrote: Im Hotep,
Rastafarianism may have taken shape in the Caribbean, but the focus of Rasta is Afrika. Ras Tafari himself was an Afrikan.
Not all Rastas follow the Bible and consider Haille Selassie to be God. Some Rastas read the Quran or the Kemetic Scriptures, and some read none at all. I learned this from spending time with Rastas last year. There is a wide variation of beliefs and practices, many of which are unfortunately misunderstood by the mainstream.
true indeed, rasta is not centralized into one body rules or governed by one person/group...
the factions of rasta that have developed have their own doctrine but I understood and thought that rastafari was based on old testament from the bible the christians use.....
that they follow laws in leviticus......most visibly the law forbid the razor to touch the head(cut hair)
I find it interesting that rastafari and 5% nation, both north american based spiritual beleif systems of African people are evolving and not structured like european based faith systems...
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Posted: Sunday March 12th, 2006 01:12 |
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Most of the rastas I've seen are white kids with nesty dredlocks, who wear ugly hippie tie-dye shirts, who smoke ganja and listen to Bob Marley and think that's the "spiritual" aspect of rastafarism.
Talk about culture vultures...
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Posted: Tuesday March 20th, 2007 22:16 |
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Incognito wrote Saturday March 11th, 2006 17:22: ...not forgetting the rastas who jumped on the Bob Marley wagon and used it as ean excuse to sire as many Bob Marleys of their own...i.e breed white women.
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