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Posted: Wednesday July 28th, 2004 23:35 |
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| Both parents are from Jamaica
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Posted: Friday July 30th, 2004 18:32 |
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i was born in DUBAI which is in U.A.E and lived there for 10 years and then came to england and i have beeen liven here for5 years nor but acutually ma mum and dad are from =somalia which means i am full somalian which iam really proud of and i am proud to be AFRICAN.
  
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Posted: Saturday July 31st, 2004 11:30 |
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Maroon Heart wrote: People define themselves based upon their own understanding. This understanding is influenced by genetics, their education and the political forces that exist around them.
My parents were born in Jamaica and they both had black ancestors all the way back to Slavery. They have both told me stories about the family and this has helped inform me about my African identity.
My father (RIP), always stressed the importance of remembering history. He was proud of his Marron blood and was well versed in Maroon History. He would often ask me "Do I know where I come from?" I could only answer tiredly "I know!"
Travelling through Africa and the Carribean I have seen no contradiction in calling myself African. Being an African helps give me a framework to understand the History of Black People in the West Indies. The majority of people on the Island of for Jamaica for example, in the last 500 years have been of African descent. These people have had a continuous history up to the present day. Their history, represents the history of an African people who have endured Slavery, resistance to that oppression, colonialism and now so-called Independence.
My father said (and I agreed with him) that "slavery made so many people crazy!" One of my definitions of Mental Illness is an inability to control and utilise the intellect.
White people with a distant African fore-parent will still call themself European or of European descent, Indians and Chinese too. How many people in the USA for example apart from Black people, talk openly about the African Blood in their veins?
This is, for them, natural normal and intelligent. A black man with a Irish great Grandmother will say he is not African because of this reason. They do not take into account that the majority of their Ancestors have been of African descent; the fact that they are perceived as someone of obvious African descent and treated in that manner, is seen as, not important.
I have even heard "jet black" Jamaicans say they have no African blood in them, whatsoever!
This to me reflects the inherited legacy from previous generations who went through years of slavery and colonialism - white supremacy.
Those of us who cannot see the continuous and consistent oppression from our enemies as well as our continuous resistance against it , will also not see the fact that being of African descent (African) has always being an important factor Europeans have used to oppress us.
When a White (or Black)policeman sees a black youth driving an expensive car and assumes the youth is a criminal, he does not think "is he Jamaican, Nigerian, South African or Guyanese, he simply see an African and moves in to harrass.
This does not mean we should not have pride in the nations we reside in today. Jamaicans and many other Black nations have much to be proud of. But in order to historically analyse our history and that which unites us - our Africaness stands out, loud. Everywhere on the planet that you find us.
Our African ancestry is what links us as a people. Some of us may have more African blood than others but we are still a people. To celebrate our AFRICANESS or that which we share is a kick in the face to those who believe that devide and rule will forever leave us weak and at war with ourselves.
African people come from Africa. Africa is our historical home.
Africa is a beautiful, huge Continent filled with natural resources. The intervention of European power into Africa's history brought slavery, colonialism War and menticide on an industrial scale. I am of African descent and ask no one the question, " where do I come from?" I know.
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Posted: Saturday July 31st, 2004 13:32 |
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Well I'm mixed race Mum =  + Dad =  so sakafet oi bien 2 raass wah gwarn..
I'm born here cant use dat flag though so I'm British so it's alrite mate know what I mean like son, nice 1 geezer..
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Posted: Tuesday August 3rd, 2004 15:57 |
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I am half Jamaican and half Guyanese but of African decent.
I have read all the posts on this and all I can say is for all those who say that they are black and then deny their african ancestory cannot be called black.
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Posted: Wednesday August 4th, 2004 10:59 |
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| I am a full nigeria girl
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Posted: Wednesday August 4th, 2004 11:46 |
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| 100% Naija (and lovin' it) !!!!
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Posted: Friday August 6th, 2004 04:23 |
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I'm from the United States and I have done a lot of research on my family. I'm proud of my heritage. I have always identified Black/African. If anyone looks at me thats how they see me. I have European Native American and obviously Afican Ancestry. I'm not ashame d of any of it.
I have talked to many who will not identify as African and look at Black as seperate. Some also think that the continental Africans look at us as not African. People are getting confused with culture and ancestry. I tell people it dosen't matter that we have mixtures orhave lost a large portion of African culture. We are still Africans. Most disagree with me. They feel the term African doesn't describe us beacuse of loss of culture and our diffrences.
It is a shame that the effects of slavery are still upon us. My maternal grandfather was a Louisiana Creole. He grew up in a French world but understood he was black. My grandmother who he married, raised us all in the African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church. I never had a problem with the word African.
I know someone that even told me that there was nothing African about them, he stated. I said just look in the mirror. And those colrs that you wear are Pan African colors! Perhaps we will one day get on the same page.
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Posted: Friday August 6th, 2004 06:42 |
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| my mom is from Botswana(yay!) and dad is Egyptian(black African though, not Arab or Mediterranean) for as far back as we can go.
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Posted: Friday August 6th, 2004 06:45 |
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| yes, because of slavery, so many blacks don't know their heritage. However, I was talking to a friend that's a biology major, and he said that there are certain genetic/genealogical techniques that allow one to find out their ethnic heritage. Now, I'm sure it probably just determines whether you're black, white, Asian, etc. However I'm still interested in actually finding out more about this(i'm a biological anthropology major).
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Posted: Friday August 6th, 2004 11:05 |
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I'm mixed race....
My mum is White Spanish, My dad is African Sudanese (no Arab blood)
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Posted: Friday August 6th, 2004 13:38 |
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My father is Black Honduran (his mother was black Honduran and Trindad indian, his biological father was white hispanic from Belize). My mother is African American, her parents were father (unknown), mother, Black Bermudan.
I was born in U.S., I consider myself black/hispanic, as I speak both languages. I have always identified most with Carribean peoples, having been raised by my grandparents (Grandma (Honduras) & her husband, Grandpa, (Barbados). I have never been able to relate to other African Americans, our values were always just different.
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Posted: Monday August 9th, 2004 03:19 |
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Wow, neat topic, neat forum, I stumbled across it while looking up sensitive skin issues. I'm glad I did.
I'm new, needless to say, and I'm mixed (technically am I allowed to post here?). My father is African American and Native, while my mother is WASP. Growing up, my father insisted that I was black, but never gave me the context from which he was coming from. Granted I was a youngster and probably wouldn't have a clue, although I do remember him explaining that "one drop" state of mind. However it didn't help matters since I live in Canada, and he was born and bred in Philly, and now living in Buffalo, so the state of mind is a bit different.
When I think of myself, I generally think that I'm Canadian first. I'm aware of my history (thought I'd love to learn more, especially my family tree), but honestly, it seems so distant and removed. It sounds terrible, but I'm being honest. I don't primarly think of myself as African, I grew up in a community with a lot of Africans from various countries and West Indians and the differences between those groups seemed like night and day, let alone what an outsider like me just observing on the sidelines. I don't think I so much deny any of my ancestory, I guess I just don't connect with parts of it. I find that a lot of mixed people feel similarly. I belong to several groups, but I don't belong. I'm welcome, but I'm shunned, the only group of my ancestory of which I've connected with and actually feel like I belong would be my native ancestory. That said, I have strongly connected with several woman throughout my life from various african nations and it is one of my life goals to visit several different countries for a reason akin to my desire to have children or eat or lust, it's just a draw to me.
Anyhow, somewhat long and rambly, please don't chew on the newbie too hard, she bites back. 
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Posted: Monday August 9th, 2004 04:36 |
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| Hi Shenanigans and welcome!......Where U born in Canada?....As U live there now,how cultural diverse is Canada?.......When I visited 25 years ago Canada seemed nearly all White broken down between the Quebecois and other French Montrealians and the majority English speaking population who were White.Is that still the case or have many Jamaicans,for example,emigrated there?.....Hope U enjoy your visit here.
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Posted: Monday August 9th, 2004 11:48 |
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I was born and raised in Toronto, which is an extremely culturally diverse city. We (non whites) outnumber them. But needless to say, they still have the power. LOL Racism still does exist, but I would say of Canada, Toronto and Vancouver are cities who are putting effort into ending the divide (relatively, compared to other cities).
Toronto has a good population of blacks from Africa and the Caribbean, although Montreal might have a higher population of blacks from Africa, I'd have to check that. But a lot of them have immigrated in the past 25 years-likewise with many other populations.
There is also a population of blacks on the east coast and south western Ontario who have settled here ages ago to escape slavery whether British or American. They have a lot of interesting history.
Canada is the place where racism usually manifests itself as polite. When it is ugly, blacks and natives bear the brunt of it, which often comes from the police. I have to say, slowly, ever so slowly, things seem to be improving in Toronto.
As for outside urban centres, it's white and native, but largely white. This is reflected in just about all branches of authority.
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Posted: Monday August 9th, 2004 12:36 |
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Peace Bros & Sisters  Mum's seychelloise (islands in the Indian Ocean) Papa (RIP) was from the Carribean isles of Martinique
Me- born in Seychelles, grew up in UK consider myself a true Creole girl. Both Seychelles and Martinque have African, European and Asian decendants, this is why i consider myself to be creole. It is now that i am intrigued to find out more about the beauty of my African roots.....so here i am in search of the truth.
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Posted: Monday August 9th, 2004 12:56 |
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I THINK IM LIKE THE ONLY PERSON ON THIS WHOOOOOOLE SITE THAT GOT TANZANIAN HERITAGE (AND PROUD 2 ADMIT IT!!!)
BOTH PARENTS BORN IN TANZANIA, MOVED 2 ENGLAND IN THE L8 70'S.
I CONSIDER MYSELF ENGLISH BY NATIONALITY BUT OBVIVOUSLY TANZANIAN BY HERITAGE.
BUT IM GONNA BIGUP ALL MY KENYAN AND UGANDAN BROTHERS 2 (THE SWAHILI CONNECTION) COZ IT SEEMS TO ME WENVA U HEAR ANYTIN BOUT AFRICA ON DIS SITE ITS DEM NIGERIANS/GHANA'S/ AND SOMALIANS RUNNIN THEIR MOUTHS!!!
GOD BLESS
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Posted: Monday August 9th, 2004 16:33 |
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Ye well i usually say im from somali... but im born in kenya....my Dad is from ogadeenia ( in etiopia)...i have ethiopian blood in me......my mom is somalia but she from ogadeenia too....im ogadeen....but since it use to belong to somalia, and i speak somalia at home ( with swahili and amaharinga)... i just call my self a somalian chick...proud african missy....jupp... i've been raised in sweden though....moved here when i was a baby...so im "afroswedish"???lol its a funny joke really..afroswedish...
mutch luuv my beautiful black cummunity
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Posted: Tuesday August 10th, 2004 20:58 |
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One of my parents is from Heaven and the other From Hell.
What is your origin?
I originated from a penis and a vagina.
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Posted: Tuesday August 10th, 2004 21:57 |
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| The name probably says it all. Both parents from Ghana, and though I wasn't born there, I still consider myself as being from there, and not as being a Brit. Attachment: gh-lgflag.gif (Downloaded 465 times)
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Posted: Wednesday August 11th, 2004 14:05 |
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Nice thread!
My mom's grandma-my great grandma-family were slave decsendants born in coastal South Carolina, in the Charelston, and Beaufort area. Historically they are know as the "Gullah people". My Dad was also of African descent, and had a grandparent that was Native American, but I never had to question my origin because my family practiced many forms of traditional beliefs, and rites, but it isn't easy to trace slave families back to Africa, so I don't know where-on the African continent-they are from. But reguardless of what I didn't get taught in school, I was educated at home that some where in Africa is our ancestrial home. I've never had to question, I know I'm a child of Africa. In fact, I'm moving to Ghana in about 3-4yrs. I can't wait to set my eye's finally on Africa.
Some people have never heard of the Gullah people...here's a link
http://www.coastalguide.com/gullah/
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Posted: Sunday August 15th, 2004 02:35 |
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Asalamu alaikum,
Born in the Islamic Republic of Somalia and raised in Canada. Al-hamdulillah, I am 100% Somali.
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Posted: Sunday August 15th, 2004 20:32 |
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so its easy for THEM to profile most of members in this room...they can do that by having ur IP address
ur name
phone number
where u normally shop and ur routes
origins
type of threads u post
if you have TV and what channels do u always watch
ur telephhone number and THEY will get more from ur GP
and if you are a security threat (well even if you are not)
http://www.gchq.gov.uk
thats what THEY (above) do...24/7
calling ur self that ur free..its all lies
http://www.blackchat.co.uk/theblackforum/forum9/4150.html
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Posted: Sunday August 15th, 2004 20:37 |
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@coltrane
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Posted: Sunday August 15th, 2004 20:55 |
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my mother is from congo and my father is from kenya.   
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Posted: Saturday August 28th, 2004 16:09 |
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MI MAMA Y PAPA, son DE BORIKEN!
(GOVERMENT NAME PUERTO RICO)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
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