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Posted: Tuesday February 13th, 2007 16:33 |
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I think he went off on a few tangents (as usual), but let me know what you guys think about his perspective...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7388395984333813644&q=farrakhan
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Posted: Tuesday February 13th, 2007 17:08 |
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Shemsi,
My earphone are messed up, but I remembered reading about a piece in his Final Call paper and looking at segment on 20/20 about his persepctive on it. While I never agreed with his poltics, I lost even more respect for him dis the Christian population in Darfur. I just wanted to go through my TV and strangle him for those words. I just could not believe the vile words that were coming from his mouth! He sounded just as bad as a dictator would. I know one thing real Muslims and Christians would condone such acts like that. I could only imagine what he said on this one.
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Posted: Thursday February 22nd, 2007 14:11 |
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Farrakhan doesnt miss a thing
Darfur is all about OIl and zionism
2 million dead in the congo, where was the news
one mistake he is making though, nobody in Africa would call themselves black esp in Sudan, Nigeria etc. So the word African American is far better for linking Africans. Nowhere in Sudan (where i am from) do you see the word black, but you see the word African. blackness is mainly an American viewpoint.
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Posted: Thursday February 22nd, 2007 14:14 |
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| If an arab can't open a jam jar he will probably blame the Zionists.................
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Posted: Thursday February 22nd, 2007 14:16 |
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Please dont show you stupidity and listen to the logic. Who owns the damm news and you want to be a sucker for some minority Zionist.
Listen to him, he makes it clear explains what you dont hear on CNN and we dont know our heroes when we have them. Mayb when he is dead you will value him.
MAlcolm said the same thing?
So intellegent i am so proud of this man, so proud. He speaks 100% man
He isnt missing in honesty
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Posted: Thursday February 22nd, 2007 14:27 |
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DAMMMMM
Farrakhan
I am sorry i said i didnt like you in the 80's MY GOD is he fire of truth or what
Listen to the logic. Can i thank the guy that put this on this page. I will let everyone know about this.
DAMM BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!
see also
http://www.africanholocaust.net/news_ah/darfur%20report.html
shame on me, i just realize the video was in that article that i just recommendedLast edited on Thursday February 22nd, 2007 14:33 by Sundiata
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Posted: Thursday February 22nd, 2007 14:30 |
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You should get VK to comment on this, as he is always the most knowledgeable person about Sudan and Darfur.
I tell you this. For invading africa and making the people slaves both in body and mind, the arabs will pay one day. They have being pursuing their final solution against sudanese africans, and I guarantee you that one way or another they will pay for their actions.
The fools who follow the arab massa often come out to defend their masters, even when they are massacring their own people. Only black people would do this foolishness. I have never seen a chinese defend the japanese rape of Nanking, or many jews defend the holocaust. But black people are so divided, they will support those out to exterminate them.
As I say, my enemies in Sudan and Mauritania will go the same way as the South Africans and The Zimbabweans.
I couldn't give a sh*t what some brainwashed fool thinks, all I am interested in is African liberation.
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Posted: Thursday February 22nd, 2007 14:45 |
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What is your point?
2% of Sudan is Arab (real Arab)
or should we blame everybody but ourseleves. Africans are killing Africans in Darfur. deal with the truth man.
did u even listen to the points under discussion?
And many Jews were involved and profited from the slave trade and the European holocaust. Human beings are humans. Who sold out the Native Americans.
but lets blame everyone, Who is killing who in the Kongo? Arabs and Europeans?
Lets take responsiblity, even Ethiopia and Somalia. We want listen to Arabs and Europeans then we r fools
walking contradictions, who are u calling a brainwashed fool? just made a statement about Jews support their own and attacking someone who is giving us clarity. Have you been to Sudan, have you been to these places? I hate negroes who claim to be for Africa yet are about nothing. They dont know Africa, dont live in Africa. cant speak African language. Live in a romantic world which isnt Africa. They dont even their own liberators when they see one. Ask them who is for Africa , they can only tell youwho isnt. Ask them for a solution, they can only tell you what isnt a solution.
they wait and then the comment. They insult X, Garvey, King, Farrakhan, everybody . Nobody is African enough. Maybe because they are Christian they are brainwashed.
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Posted: Thursday February 22nd, 2007 15:07 |
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Interesting you mention the great Garvey. Garvey was a supporter of Zionism funnily enough.
Please don't patronise me with my knowledge of Africa. you will just embarass yourself.
The arabs got to africa the same way as the south africans. They destroyed the african civilisations, and the nubian empire, and raped women, making the offspring believe that they were arab.
These are the descendants of people who perceive themselves as arab. I know many many people from Darfur and from Sudan due to my politics, and they have all told me the war is about racial supremacy. Many africans have been brainwashed into following the arab agenda, and classify themselves as arabs even though they only have little arab blood.
Are you telling me my many friends and contacts from Sudan are all lying due to some Zionist conspiracy? Do you realise how ridicuolous that sounds.
The Jews did not control the slave trade, but they were certainly involved in it. The arabs have been pursuing a war of genocide against africans for over a thousand years. Look at how Gadaffi treats blacks in his country, look at how blacks have been discriminated against in North Africa, and how Mauritania runs a country full of old-style slavery.
I am not a christian, I follow spiritualist beliefs. Many Black muslims have been brainwased into following the arab agenda.
As I say, the genocide in Darfur will have repercussions for these people.
BTW have you ever been to Israel? You have an opinion on the place but I suspect you have never visited Jerusalem or the West Bank. You do not have to visit somewhere to have an opinion on it.
P.S Remember another great black leader is John Garang.
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Posted: Thursday February 22nd, 2007 17:01 |
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Interesting you mention the great Garvey. Garvey was a supporter of Zionism funnily enough.
GARVEY DID NOT SUPPORT WHAT WE CALL ZIONISM TODAY, HE MARRIED IT TO THE CALL FOR AFRICA FOR AFRICANS, AND SAW A SIMILAR ETHOS
Please don't patronise me with my knowledge of Africa. you will just embarass yourself.
I AM AN AFRICAN I DONT KNOW WHO YOU ARE, OR WHERE U ARE FROM. I SPEAK AN AFRICAN LANGUAGE (2 AT THAT)
The arabs got to africa the same way as the south africans. They destroyed the african civilisations, and the nubian empire, and raped women, making the offspring believe that they were arab.
KUT THE RHETORIC BRING A REFERNCE SHOW A FACT. I COULD SAY THE BANTU DID THE SAME TO THE SOUTH. YOU KNOW HOW MANY SAN DIED HOW MANY PIGMY GOT GENOICIDED IN WEST AFRICA?
These are the descendants of people who perceive themselves as arab. I know many many people from Darfur and from Sudan due to my politics, and they have all told me the war is about racial supremacy. Many africans have been brainwashed into following the arab agenda, and classify themselves as arabs even though they only have little arab blood.
RIGHT AND HOW IS AMERICA AND AA DIFFERENT, IN THE 80'S AFRICAN AMERICANS HAD THE SAME ISSUE OF COLOR AND CLASS. I AM FROM SUDAN, HAVE U BEEN 2 SUDAN?
Are you telling me my many friends and contacts from Sudan are all lying due to some Zionist conspiracy? Do you realise how ridicuolous that sounds.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SAVE DARFUR ET AL. NOT ABOUT DARFUR HAVE YOU READ THE ARTICLE. HOW CRAZY DO YOU LOOK. I AM NOT SAYING DARFUR ISNT REAL! I AM SAYING WHY DARFUR AND WHY NOT CONGO. 2 MILLION DEAD. DO THE MATHS
The Jews did not control the slave trade, but they were certainly involved in it. The arabs have been pursuing a war of genocide against africans for over a thousand years. Look at how Gadaffi treats blacks in his country, look at how blacks have been discriminated against in North Africa, and how Mauritania runs a country full of old-style slavery.
RUMORS GADAFFI HAS DONE MORE FOR RECENT PAN-AFRICANISM THAN ANYONE ELSE. STOP REPEATING WHAT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND. GADAFFI ALSO SUPPORTED GRENADA (CARIBBEAN), HE HELPS AFRICANS MORE THAN MOST OF THOSE STINK AFRICAN LEADERS. AND MISTREATING BLACKS IS SOMETHING THE PRIMEMINSTER OF MOST AFRICAN COUNTRIES DO, SEE ETHIOPIA, KENYA, ETC
I am not a christian, I follow spiritualist beliefs. Many Black muslims have been brainwased into following the arab agenda.
MANY SPRITUALIST HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED TO FOLLOW AN ANTI-CHRISTIAN ANTI-ISLAMIC AGENDA. VERY EASY TO SAY THIS. I THINK MANY AFRICANS HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED PERIOD! WHAT WAS THE RELIGION OF THE LARGEST SLAVING REGION IN AFRICA? AKAN AND DAHOMEY, ASANTE SO DONT FRAGMENT THE PROBLEM.
As I say, the genocide in Darfur will have repercussions for these people.
AND WHERE IS THE HIT BACK FOR THE WHITE PEOPLE THAT ENSLAVED AFRICANS FOR 300 YEARS. WHEN IS GOD GOING TO GIVE THEM THERES? KEEP WAITING AND DONT SAVE YOURSELF. ? WHAT DID AFRICA DO TO GET SO MUCH TROUBLE, WHEN DID WE ANGER GOD?
BTW have you ever been to Israel? You have an opinion on the place but I suspect you have never visited Jerusalem or the West Bank. You do not have to visit somewhere to have an opinion on it.
I AM SO HAPPY U ASKED. IF YOU KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT SUDAN YOU WOULD KNOW WE CANT GO THERE. ASK ONE OF YOUR FRIENDS BUT I HAVE BEEN SYRIA AND LIBAN.
P.S Remember another great black leader is John Garang.
YOU KNOW THE CIA KILLED HIM, MANY SUDANESE IN THE NORTH WOULD HAVE PROFITED FROM HIS LIFE. AND HE WASNT BLACK HE WAS AN AFRICAN LIKE THE PEOPLE IN THE NORTH.
ANY MAN INSULTING FARRAKHAN COULNT BE FOR AFRICA, THE ONE MAN IN AMERICA WHO IS ROOTED IN A SOLUTION FOR AFRICA GLOBALLY IS MR FARRAKHAN. THE ENEMY WITHIN IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU, WHO SLANDER AND CURSE OUR LIBERATORS. U DONT HAVE TO LIKE EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM. U R BRAINWASHED BECAUSE OF HOW YOU SPEAK ABOUT OUR BLACK PRINCE. U R THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT CURSED MALCOLM WHEN HE WAS ALIVE AND WASH EVERYTHING ABOUT AFRICAN HISTORY DOWN THE TOILET. (CAPITALS TO seperate my words from yours)
Do u know about the Jews and Uganda? ask yourself who made that film last king of scotland.
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Posted: Thursday February 22nd, 2007 17:09 |
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Ah great now that you have revealed yourself that explains all. You are clearly a northern Sudanese if you say you are from sudan.
There isn't much else you need to say. I wouldn't exactly expect an oppressor to have much sympathy with the oppressed.
Lol at most of your mad rants but particularly funny is that you think gadaffi is a friend of africans. He only supports your arab invader buddies.
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Posted: Thursday February 22nd, 2007 17:14 |
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The true words of a coward who cannot retort.
I am from Sudan. There is only one Africa and one Sudan. And if you go to Sudan and stop reading rubbish you will see Dinka, Abasha, real Arab 2%, and all kinds of people, you will see people from Uganda, Kenya, Egypt, Chad. So limit your rhetoric to things you know about so that way you dont come up short. It only takes a flight on KLM 6 hours from Europe, get off the plane and look around Khartoum. And take notes. "from the north". no from the capital. couch revolutionaries are hated in Africa. i have nothing but contempt for the Diaspora (save a few).
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Posted: Thursday February 22nd, 2007 17:16 |
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empty rhetoric of hate and ignorance
Check this i made a mistake
Dont fly KLM, fly Ethiopian airlines.
u know the white man gave you some advise.
GO BACK TO AFRICA!!!!
u KNOW WHAT IGNORE HIM!
i MEET SOME YOUNG WHITE TEENAGERS FROM USA WHO HAVE More comprehension more historical clarity than people like you. I am ashammed of you. U can actually speak 2 these people. little educated white girls with more clarity, guess what they took a year out an did go and look after the orphans--WHERE WERE U?
And u insult the one Diasporian that we love? FARAKHAN Our government was installed by the West and now you lecturing us on Darfur? U voted for the tyrannt that put BAshir in power. The black in America probably has more power than any average Sudanese person.
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Posted: Thursday March 29th, 2007 14:20 |
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If the moderators could force people to stop going off on tangents(conveniently)...and stick to the points..and cut out the insults...this would be a much better debate.....
When people run out of points to make, insults are fired...it's a coward's way out...
that's just a general truism.....
This isn't an EITHER /OR issue...
either you're on OUR side..or you are a sellout/brainwashed,etc..
that's childish....
Sentient, adult human beings are killing each other all over Africa..and the world...
no more talk of "brainwashed" "insert religion" followers....
that leads to tangents.....
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