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Why Are Jamaicans and Nigerians Perceived As Arrogant?
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 Posted: Monday January 15th, 2007 19:08

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I have never heard of Black AMERICANS (We AMERICAN Blacks overwhelmingly reject the fake ass title "african american")  having beef with Jamaicans and vice versa.There is alot of mingling amongst the two groups and our relations are generally amiciable.The Wild Hare in Chicago is generally jampacked with Americans,West Indians,and especially the Jamaicans.The Nigerians are generally perceived as being tribalistic (Nigeria has the largest population of Blacks in the world yet it ranks as one of the the most sqaulid,filthy,and wretched nations in the world that is going nowhere fast.What have they accomplished?They can't even defend the Black people in Africa from genocide.Look at the Euros they put together forces throughout history to save their own (Bosnia,Kosovo,and so on) yet those idiots throughout history have sold their own race into slavery and we call this Nigerian state of affairs "progress".HMMPH...If they are the "Black Superpower" then God damn us ALL.God Bless AMERICA!) and not OUR KIND OF PEOPLE.The Jamaicans,Americans,West Indians,and other Diasporans are a folk people.We're not into putting on airs and such.In other words,we KEEP IT REAL.The Ghanians,Ethiopians,Togolese,and some other African groups are perceived as being generally cool within our American community.The Nigerians generally can't get along with Black people in the US or the UK.It's about time they look in the mirror to figure why they are so despised.

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 Posted: Monday January 15th, 2007 19:19

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True that Jamaicans get mad respect in the American Black community.Don't downplay my Belizean mamis out there with the Soca but the influence of Jamaicans is global.Even the Americans have to gived props to the Jamaicans.That's why i'm tripping on this.I go to a Jamaican barbershop and I feel like i'm with my brothers out there.They are very focused on what's going on in their homeland and what they can do to help.Their dedication and rightgeous anger at the state of what's happening in Jamaica is praiseworthy.I got nothing but respect for the Jamaians....Some Nigerians putting on airs are not our kind of people.We are a FOLK people.This putting on airs and trying to act "better" than the next man is why they can't get along with the Diasporans in the US or the UK....



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KooolHerc wrote: I have never heard of Black AMERICANS (We AMERICAN Blacks overwhelmingly reject the fake ass title "african american")  having beef with Jamaicans and vice versa.There is alot of mingling amongst the two groups and our relations are generally amiciable.The Wild Hare in Chicago is generally jampacked with Americans,West Indians,and especially the Jamaicans.The Nigerians are generally perceived as being tribalistic (Nigeria has the largest population of Blacks in the world yet it ranks as one of the the most sqaulid,filthy,and wretched nations in the world that is going nowhere fast.What have they accomplished?They can't even defend the Black people in Africa from genocide.Look at the Euros they put together forces throughout history to save their own (Bosnia,Kosovo,and so on) yet those idiots throughout history have sold their own race into slavery and we call this Nigerian state of affairs "progress".HMMPH...If they are the "Black Superpower" then God damn us ALL.God Bless AMERICA!) and not OUR KIND OF PEOPLE.The Jamaicans,Americans,West Indians,and other Diasporans are a folk people.We're not into putting on airs and such.In other words,we KEEP IT REAL.The Ghanians,Ethiopians,Togolese,and some other African groups are perceived as being generally cool within our American community.The Nigerians generally can't get along with Black people in the US or the UK.It's about time they look in the mirror to figure why they are so despised.
 

I always lay off this type of topics.

Koolherc, based on a trend analysis of your posts, I can only advice you to SAY NO TO DRUGS!!!! (if it isnt too late already)..

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Dumb ass,your petty insults don't faze me.I'm keeping it real unlike you fronting ass buffoons.This is how it is in CHICAGO.The Jamaicans,WesT Indians,Belizeans,and etc don't have beef.It;s the high faulting buffoon Nigerians that can't get along with REAL Black people.



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KooolHerc wrote: Dumb ass,your petty insults don't faze me.I'm keeping it real unlike you fronting ass buffoons.This is how it is in CHICAGO.The Jamaicans,WesT Indians,Belizeans,and etc don't have beef.It;s the high faulting buffoon Nigerians that can't get along with REAL Black people.



And if you think consatntly drawing from a limited vocab which doesnt span beyond 'buffoons and fools' would faze me on the internet. Then you must be smoking stuff cheaper than i initially gave you credit for...


trust me I didnt insult you yet. If I do/did, you and indeed the whole of BNV would know. My unwillingness to trade words with you is not borne out of the fact that I couldnt, but more out of the realisation that I could never argue with an idiot and win. You would ALWAYS beat me with experience
 

like i said earlier, lay off the drugs..it is frying your brain for real....

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***awaits a 'This thread will be monitored' announcement***

***prays thread does not get locked or thrown in the trash bin***



btw Kool Herc, Europeans still continue to commit genocide on their own soil. 

Nigeria has done more for Africa than any nation on earth.

Also, why place the burden of preventing genocide solely on Nigeria?confused3
I don't think you have a good grasp of African geo-politics to make these comments.  Aside from that this is getting entertaining.

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Dummy,I know you couldn't adress the post which is why you have to resort to childish insults.I wouldn't expect much better from a dumb dipsh*t like you....

 

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Nigeria is the self proclaimed superpower of Africa yet those yellow belly cowards have to call in our Western powers when you  Africans predictably go to hacking and ravishing your women with knives every couple of years.It's the West that has to come in to do the ground work even  repairing your women's private parts after you have banished them to caves for leaking piss and sh*t on your dirt floors.



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Nigeria has done more for Africa than any nation on earth.

Too bad your counterparts in the Congo had to call in our Western doctors to repair the anuses and vaginas of their women after they shot them in the vagina amd raped them with knives by the thousands forcing them to live in caves as to prevent piss an feces from being leaked onto your dirt floors.You are really doing "more"/Look at your sucess in Sudan,Rwanda,and so on.That's why you need the TRUE powers of the West to lay down the law as those yellow bellies are SHOOK by the president of Sudan.If the US cared enough we could wipe the Janjaweed out overnight but we Americans have come to the conclusion that you people are going to have to learn to fight your own battles.The AU is PUNKED right now by the president of Sudan that dared the AU to make a move on them then they went crying to the West for help and were REBUFFED.We need to let you folks right it out....We are on the right track....



 



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KooolHerc wrote: Dummy,I know you couldn't adress the post which is why you have to resort to insults.I wouldn't expect much better from a dumb dipsh*t like you....

 


Ok, put down the needle for a while and lets see if you can keep it together long enough to read my posts.

What post do you expect me to address? The mumbo jumbo you put up there. It was at best a pitiable attempt at psuedo-intellect, one that did more to expose your ignorance more than any other thing. I bet you couldnt point to chicago on the map, and you want to dare talk and pontificate about african issues? or indeed Nigerians? You said Nigerans couldnt stop the genocide in Africa like the europeans did? Which nation in Africa do you think has the highest number of UN peace keepers from Africa? Or which nation do you think spearheaded the Ecomog (if you even know what that is) army.

And you honestly expect me to give an ill thought out post a well thought out response? p.s refer to my 1st response to you, put down the needle. Printing in large bold letters doesnt necessarily mean you are making any sense at all. Infact in your case, it conctitutes more of a nuisance. And oh!! please spare me the crap about how it is in chicago. I have a Nigerian father with a carribean mother and I am presently consulting at a clients site in shaumburgh chicago. So don assume i have no clue about Nigerians and carribeans in chicago. What are you keeping real crack head?

Still with me? I didnt throw the first insults, so stop crying like a baby if you get insulted. If you want a worthy response, it is simple really, make a worthy post. Now that shouldnt be too hard for a foul mouthed cretin like you.... (I hope..confused3confused3)

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I don't do drugs at all.Your failed states are rapidly becoming prime locations for terror and drug trafficking.You best get those islamofascists in check in your homelands before we Americans have to come lay the SMACKDOWN.Dummy,your insults are laughable.I am American.You AU dummies can't even police your own continent.That's why you dummies need the West to come in to handle your affairs even repairing the assholes and vaginas of your women that you ravished by the thousands forcing them into caves for leaking piss and sh*t on your dirt floors.The "superpower" of Africa is a failed state that can't even police it's own contient.How pathetic....Non Reading Comprehension Dumb Ass,I was referring to the Europeans that police their own continent.Imagine if the West called on the "AU" and "Ecomog" like you cowards readily call on us.That's why you COWARDS were shook when the president of Sudan laid the smackdown on the AU and demanded they have limited abilities to which you yellow bellies quickly punked down.

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KooolHerc wrote: Nigeria has done more for Africa than any nation on earth.

Too bad your counterparts in the Congo had to call in our Western doctors to repair the anuses and vaginas of their women after they shot them in the vagina amd raped them with knives by the thousands forcing them to live in caves as to prevent piss an feces from being leaked onto your dirt floors.You are really doing "more"/Look at your sucess in Sudan,Rwanda,and so on.That's why you need the TRUE powers of the West to lay down the law as those yellow bellies are SHOOK by the president of Sudan.If the US cared enough we could wipe the Janjaweed out overnight but we Americans have come to the conclusion that you people are going to have to learn to fight your own battles.The AU is PUNKED right now by the president of Sudan that dared the AU to make a move on them then they went crying to the West for help and were REBUFFED.We need to let you folks right it out....We are on the right track....



 

If your people let us Africans right it out a long time ago we wouldn't be having the issues we have today,but you interfere too much.  You are truly showing your ignorance of issues you shouldn't be speaking on.  by the way.. there's some left over european semen dripping from your mouth.  Once a white mans prostitute always a white man's prostitute, no matter how much some of you try to claim African affiliations.  You dark skin white people are everywhere. Your words and emotions show it all.  I'll be glad when the white man finally accepts you all as their own.  We don't need the dead weight.

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DSP wrote: KooolHerc wrote: Nigeria has done more for Africa than any nation on earth.

Too bad your counterparts in the Congo had to call in our Western doctors to repair the anuses and vaginas of their women after they shot them in the vagina amd raped them with knives by the thousands forcing them to live in caves as to prevent piss an feces from being leaked onto your dirt floors.You are really doing "more"/Look at your sucess in Sudan,Rwanda,and so on.That's why you need the TRUE powers of the West to lay down the law as those yellow bellies are SHOOK by the president of Sudan.If the US cared enough we could wipe the Janjaweed out overnight but we Americans have come to the conclusion that you people are going to have to learn to fight your own battles.The AU is PUNKED right now by the president of Sudan that dared the AU to make a move on them then they went crying to the West for help and were REBUFFED.We need to let you folks right it out....We are on the right track....



 

If your people let us Africans right it out a long time ago we wouldn't be having the issues we have today,but you interfere too much.  You are truly showing your ignorance of issues you shouldn't be speaking on.  by the way.. there's some left over european semen dripping from your mouth.  Once a white mans prostitute always a white man's prostitute, no matter how much some of you try to claim African affiliations.  You dark skin white people are everywhere. Your words and emotions show it all.  I'll be glad when the white man finally accepts you all as their own.  We don't need the dead weight.

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DSP,

Mad respect to you for being able to make out the thrash he has posted. Judging by the way he has been repeating the same thing, I can only imagine he has mustered all up the brain energy he could and run out of steam.

 

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 KooolHerc wrote: We need to let you folks right it out....We are on the right track....

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I stopped reading this guys post after he came out with the insults. It is good that some-one like DSP is paying attention. The above statement is not from some-one of African descent. Insulting each and everyone is a method designed to cause chaos in the hope that some of us will pick up the bait and start ganging up on one group here.



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Nigeria has done more for Africa than any nation on earth.

Too bad your counterparts in the Congo had to call in our Western doctors to repair the anuses and vaginas of their women after they shot them in the vagina amd raped them with knives by the thousands forcing them to live in caves as to prevent piss an feces from being leaked onto your dirt floors.You are really doing "more"/Look at your sucess in Sudan,Rwanda,and so on.That's why you need the TRUE powers of the West to lay down the law as those yellow bellies are SHOOK by the president of Sudan.If the US cared enough we could wipe the Janjaweed out overnight but we Americans have come to the conclusion that you people are going to have to learn to fight your own battles.The AU is PUNKED right now by the president of Sudan that dared the AU to make a move on them then they went crying to the West for help and were REBUFFED


 

.We need to let you folks right it out....We are on the right track....If your people let us Africans right it out a long time ago The West had to stop you from selling your own people into slavery.It was the Africans that wanted to continue to the slave trade.If they hadn't then I would be over there able to buy some of yall gals for a plasma televison set.Considering you never had worth for Black lives considering you sold off your own kind by the millions for USED DRAWLS,adulterated gin,MIRRORS,and other assorted bullsh*t. we wouldn't be having the issues we have today,You wouldn't be having the issues you have today if you had made the right JUST choices in the past.One what reaps one shall sow.... but you interfere too much. Where would you be without us to "interfere" by sending you food aid?Look at ZIm they ran off their White farmers and now the idiots have gone to eating rats because they are too dumb to grow their own food.Some progress....  You are truly showing your ignorance of issues you shouldn't be speaking on. Ignorace...HA..I am speaking TRUTHS that can be verified independently..  by the way.. there's some left over european semen dripping from your mouth.LOL!You trying to get nasty but consider that it's your  whores that are lined up in Italy and throughout Europe selling their asses gobbling up semen.Your women and children are the most trafficked sexual slaves in the entire world,Mr KKKoon.   Once a white mans prostitute always a white man's prostitute,The fact that your women and girl childen are the biggest international prostitutes is a fact .Let's not forget your complicity as you are the main ones pimping out your own girls  to the White pedophiles,Mr KKKoon. 

One young woman told me she was promised regular work in the Nigerian countryside.
Discernible shame
She found herself transported overland through the north of Nigeria, to Mali, then to Algeria, then Morocco.
From there she was smuggled into Spain, at night, in a small boat, and from there, on forged papers, into Italy by train.
They took her to a house in Turin where she lived with other girls, some, but not all, Nigerian like her, and under the control of a madam, also Nigerian.
She was put to work as a prostitute, something she speaks of now with a discernible shame.

The streets of Nigeria are teeming with trafficked children.
Of the hundreds of thousands of street kids living rough in Nigeria's oil rich cities, perhaps 40% have been bought and sold at some time.

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 no matter how much some of you try to claim African affiliations. I am AMERICAN Black.The Great American Black people don't have to "claim" nothing.

 

 



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I am a Black man of AMERICAN descent that speaks truth.I'm not "insulting" you,idiot.Stop being such a tin skin wussy and if you want to challenge me then feel free to do so instead of gossping like a b**ch....

 



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Oh Captain America is back I see. Why do you lot let him wind you up?

"The Great American Black people " Man your talent is wasted. Stan Lee couldnt of said it better. Next you'll be saying "nothing can stop me now.."



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Bredder Tukoma wrote: Oh Captain America is back I see. Why do you lot let him wind you up?

"The Great American Black people " Man your talent is wasted. Stan Lee couldnt of said it better. Next you'll be saying "nothing can stop me now.."


Ooohhh, now I remember that guy.  The lizard looking one with the sunglasses. He hasn't posted here in a long time.  Now I'm mad at myself for arguing with him.  I remember he was supposed to meet up with members of this site with his gang of international thugs...lol.



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This is where some brothers get sh*t twisted between  good old tribal laugh and sing song and wanting to bring madness in the place....

DSP is right in many respects no nation has played such a powerful and influential role both overtly and covertly in the African liberation movement than Nigeria. Whether in the front or behind the feild or being the diplomatic table the Naija man and woman have always played their role and a big one too. The paradox is this often many leaders who were poor at home or corrupt etc still performed very well on key issues, such as Africans being dominated by white men which is something which the Nigerian ego and body politic simply refused to accept on the African continent.

Yeah so I have always like the Collective Nigerian ego in the right context such as those simply not being prepared to accept certain things...regardless of what they are prepared to accept. Very similar to Jamaica in many respects tolerate sh*t but certain things will not even consider and they don't care.

Look how JA told the world to f**k off about the 'homophobia' in reggae music most other Caribbean countries would have dealt with it I think in more low key ways..but hold the basic position. Different national ego...at work or manifests in different ways...

 



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FredB wrote: DSP is right in many respects no nation has played such a powerful and influential role both overtly and covertly in the African liberation movement than Nigeria. Whether in the front or behind the feild or being the diplomatic table the Naija man and woman have always played their role and a big one too.

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@FredB & DSP. DSP is actually not right and he is wrong and off tangent when he said "Nigeria has done more for Africa than any Nation on this Earth", that is not true.  The Country that played a Very significant and most important role for African Liberation particularly in Africa and for Black America and around the World is actually Algeria  and Ethiopia. Algeria's bitter War of Independence contributed to a set of beliefs and attitudes that implied a measure of suspicion and hostility towards the capitalist states of Europe and North America, and sympathy for liberation movements whose struggles mirrored Algeria's own.

During the time of African Liberation and Independence, many Africans headed to Algeria to recieve military training and weapons for liberation were funneled through Algeria. "Dividing the globe into the rich industrial nations of the North, and the poor former colonies of the South, Algerian leaders asserted their strong opposition to what they saw as a world infected by Imperialism, Zionism, Colonialism, and Economic Domination by the former colonial powers". This belief led to massive support for Liberation Movements through-out Africa. It was in Algeria that many members of the Black American Panther Party recieved support, training and sanctuary. It was also Algeria that tried to take down African Leaders who were close to the Colonial powers because it saw them as continuation of Western powers.

Most of the liberation Armies of Angola, Mozambique, Namibia, South Africa, Guinea Bissau, Zimbabwe received training and support in Algeria and Ethiopia and of course Nigeria and the rest of Africa chipped in to help from Tanzania, Zambia etc etc.  Nelson Mandela, Jonas Savimbi ( considered a traitor) all recieved Military training in Algeria and Ethiopia and Savimbi proceeded on to China and back to Angola and many other African Revolutionaries and leaders went to Ethiopia and Algeria.  Algeria back in the days was the meeting place for African Revolutionaries so was Dar-El Salaam  in Tanzania. In the 1960s Nigeria had her hands tied with its own problems to deal with by the war in Biafra which kept her hands full and in the 1970s had to deal with other internal issues trying to put the house back in order. Nigeria started playing a bigger role in the early 1990s to the present, especially when Obasanjo came to power.  The Contributions of Algeria and Ethiopia are very significant in the early days particularly Ethiopia with the formation of the OAU/AU (African Union, formerly Organization of African Unity). I think the Democratic Republic of Congo would have played a much larger important role; probably even bigger than Algeria had Patrice Lumumba lived or survived because of his experience and the brutality of the Belgian colonialists.

In terms of military power in the Continent South Africa used to be the ranking military power with their threat of the Six (6) to Nine (9) Nuclear Weapons mounted on their Israeli version of the Gideon Intercontinental Ballistic Missile that can in theory fire its missiles onto any point on this earth. This threat was neatralized when these Nuclear weapons were destroyed when Mandela took over power. Now the Military powers in the Continent ranking from number one is (1) Egypt. (2) South Africa, (3) Ethiopia comes third,  (4) Angola and and number five (5) Nigeria and so on and so forth with Mauritius having no Army at all.

Last edited on Tuesday January 16th, 2007 06:32 by Vubundada_Kandaba



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