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Posted: Sunday May 30th, 2004 11:56 |
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There is local and Europea elections in the next 14 days and I've heard nothing from OBV
Simon Wooley wants to concern himself with eeny, meeny mo adverst and lawyers whilst telling New Nation that we have to vote to keep out the BNP
This begs the question, what exactly is Wooley doing to glvanise the black vote. Blackchat is easily the biggest medium to reach many black people.
I havent seen anything!!!
The likes of Brunel, Middlesex, Kingston, Greenwich Uni which has a huge ethnic minority population havent been visited by one OBV member. (I phoned people who I know at these uni's and they confirmed it for me)
Baring this in mind, what exactly is the point of these people. My friend said it could be a matter of budgets but I dont think money is the be all and end all when it comes to advertisng. Use your imagination. The ideas I have mentioned won't break the bank, why havent they explored it!!
Apathy levels amongst black people are depressingly high and will get higher unless Simon Wooley stops trying to be a celebrity and knuckles down to do some work. With racial tolernace being tested with immigaration, etc, I predict BNP to clean up in the next fortnight. After this Simon wooley will write in to the New Nation about how disapointed he is that we didnt turn out to vote. A member in the Politics forum thought that peeps wouldn't vote until we had a malcolm x/martin type character. If wee wait around for that, BNP might have snapped up alot of councils and we will be stuffed
Its time for OBV to step to the plate or be discraded. I await the outcome
So anywyas, whats your views on OBV and apathy. Do you vote? Any replies will be appreciated
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Posted: Sunday May 30th, 2004 12:24 |
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tmmm ok this is gonna be short...
on anything political
I dont vote ...
democracy is an illusion
.... if this is a democratic society... why do they try to "force" you to vote...
is it not my choice if i choose not to vote...
and.. also..
voting doesnt make a difference in my veiws...
because one whichever party gets in.. they're like.. ok we're in now ... now we do what we want..
case in point...
the iraq war... look how many.. people were against england goin to iraq...
did that stop tony (grinning) blair from goin...
no...
why because... he is just a pawn... greater forces are ehind the scenes.. that dictates.. how the world turns...
why should i vote for a puppet...
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Posted: Sunday May 30th, 2004 13:26 |
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| @ local level it makes a difference.
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Posted: Sunday May 30th, 2004 14:49 |
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@ Cashmoney
I don't know anything about the OBV and how things are there but you asked about voting. Yes...I do vote. I make it my business to regardless of the outcome. We've had too many folks to die, get beat up, etc...for me to become so disillushioned about the process until I don't participate in it. I wish those of us who don't vote would hightail it to the nearest civil rights museum and see what was put on the line for this privilege, this right. I can't let those brothers and sisters who came before me down...to me it would be like saying they risked it all for nothing.
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Posted: Tuesday June 1st, 2004 10:03 |
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*ahem* I have never voted in my life....im not particularly proud of that...but dont know who to vote for 
Dont actually know n e thing about the OBV organisation either.
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Posted: Tuesday June 1st, 2004 14:53 |
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Blackbeauty, I dont know anything about OBV either. Apart from the fact that their '''''leader''''''' simon wooley is the second comin of trevor philips.
A MEDIA GROUPIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Tuesday June 1st, 2004 16:22 |
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BlackBeauty wrote:
*ahem* I have never voted in my life....im not particularly proud of that...but dont know who to vote for
Dont actually know n e thing about the OBV organisation either. Â
http://www.obv.org.uk/ Hi BlackBeauty, here is the link for OBV. It has been going for quite some years now. ( BTW, I haven't had any respnse to using the system with my AppleMac )
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Posted: Wednesday June 2nd, 2004 16:53 |
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I think that using our right to vote is crucial - otherwise who are we to moan when the country isn't run as we'd like it? A lot of people seem to have the attitude of "my vote won't make a difference" but that is precisely why it doesn't make a difference - you arent trying to make a difference!
I do think though that there is a real lack of black political representation - although maybe this is something to do with black voter apathy? I know that more of my white friends vote than my black friends. Is this an experience shared by any one else?
I did spot this interesting poll on a site the other day: http://www.voice-online.net/campaigns/elections/index.php
Will be interesting to see the results if they publish them.
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Posted: Thursday June 10th, 2004 17:26 |
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| did any1 go to the Black London decides event
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Posted: Friday June 11th, 2004 07:24 |
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Yes, I went to that event. I thought that it was well organised, and provided a good opportunity for people to address the candidates.
It was way too short though and not very well advertised. I only heard about it though a friend of a friend.
Did you go? What did you think of it?
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Posted: Friday June 11th, 2004 07:57 |
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CashMoney wrote: did any1 go to the Black London decides event
Didnt know there was one. I did not hear n e thing about it 
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Posted: Friday June 11th, 2004 12:36 |
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@Cashmoney. Greetings bro. Very good subject/issue.
Two points.
1. Is voting important as a general principle?
2. Is voting in this oncoming election importan?.
The first as a general principle is sound. We I take it the majority of us are democrats and believe in "democracy" and the ability to influence events and voting are synonomous in theory.
Does that mean we rush to vote in this or any future elections? My reponse is no. In fact, one of the things I have been really irritated by is Simon Wooleys attempts to manipulate and use the old issue of black fear and ignorance and the old race card, by claiming if we don't vote the BNP will benefit.
Me and my people who watch these things very closely will vote for anyone, except any Labour/Operation Black Vote candidate. Blair and his people must be hurt politically and electorally.
Voting is one thing. Wasting your vote another and electing black people who give lip service is another. Lets look at history. I have just written a piece for publication on this very said matter. People before you give power to people we need to know who we are giving it to and what is the likelyhood they will use it to our collective benefit.
If you know anything about most of these people they are pro system and the historical fact is that to be a good black representative, you have to be essentially anti-system or determined to challenge the system in a way which will make it very unhappy. These people want status and the type of self grandisement which comes from it.
When we had no black MP's what did they tell us, or try to sell us to back them. When we did, what they do for us. Paul Boateng whose soul will rot in hell even has the front today to say he is no black leader or spokesman for black people. I beg some of you to go to a newspaper libary or use the net and trace some of the things that b**tard said prior to being put in.
Let me illustrate this with a quote from the piece I mentioned. It comes from a brother who was a very influential leader in NOrth West London who along with his crew did a great deal to organise and provide some serious opportuntities for the grassroots and young black men in particular. Realising he was becoming very powerful and more so that so called black politicians, they tried to bribe him with grants and support and against his better instincts went along with them.
The brother remarks:
"They sold us out. In the begining they pleaded with us not to go our own way, we should stick together. It's a bit like Michael Jackson and Tina Turner and those sell outs, in the begining they ran to us, because we are all they had and now they have made it they run from us. We had the largest number of black councillors in the country and supported them, and expected them to look after our interests, just like Jews or Asian, take it for granted that their political representatives will look after their interests".
Out of all the black MP's only Bernie Grant consistently stood up for black and poor people in this country and he was seen as a pariah and embarrasment amongst most black Labour party people because he spoke the truth and the truth and party politics are not one and the same. When Bernie said the poilice got a "bloody good hiding" in Broadwater,they tried to silence him and threaten him with all kinds of things. But black people eventually took him to heart as the only one who would defend our corner.
Look at David "white boy" Lammy, a Blairite cyborg who even the Tottenham Tories are cussing about his record on helping local black people.
A man has to be in real bad shape for the Tories to be able to slag him off about his record on those matters.
Amos, Lammy and all these white clones are not our friends or people. They simply have our colour. Those who would sell African children into slavery or our women into prostitution have our colour, that is how the game/system works. You don't have to tell Iraq's or people in the middle East that because they ain't dumb or brainwashed or have internalised white supremacy and propaganda that confuses us. That is why collaborators need to keep sucide pills in their pockets when those people get them their hands on them.
Look at Diana Abbot, she is a walking disgrace and like Trevor Phillips more committed to getting thier kids into bourgoise white private schools, than committing herself to say setting up a black private school and sending her children there along with other inner city kids etc.
And the woman has the cheek to say education is priority number 1, 2, 3 like her master Blair.
Study Abbot's track record on Education and what she has done other than make statements about exclusions and black boys.
So we need to grow up and stop acting like kids who can be lured into the cars of perverts and paedophiles by offering us sweets, or asking us to help them find a poor lost puppy so they can commit their ungodly perversions on us.
Look at the hip hop industry who today are like politicans. The majority of them are motivated by one thing and one thing alone celebrity status and money and extravagance and poisoining the minds of the unaware into accepting and being motivated by their values.
But because they can relate to massess of the people, hiding behind elusive terms like "keeping it real", it masks the ugly facts that we are consumers primarily to them. They have no racial commitments to improving the lives of those they eat from and they constitute no harm to white people who buy their music, only us.
One author said in a book I recently read how opportunistic and transparent many hip hop artists are. They talk about "keeping it real" and about they deal with reality, but notice how selective their notions of reality is. How many of them talk about racial reality in the terms of our people. They don't because white folk don't wannna hear about what black people really experienc or think.What about how Homeland security and terrorism has been used to put black people in the US under serveilance in a way we have not seen for decades, about the specialist police units being set up to examine any relationship, even misdemeanours related to hip hop and any perceivable link to terrorism, eg criticising Bush and his antics.
How many of them are defending or speaking up for Dead Prez and the type of systematic and targetted harrassment they are experiencing because of their position on stuff fundamental to their people.
So when they say "keeping it real", they are talking about all the negative things you find in one section primarily of black communities. Pimps and hustlers have been with us a long time and examine any serous studies of African-American sub culture, or African-Caribbeans and we will find them preying and selling white women since the sixties. But these were the low life of our communities and seen as such. But today these are being promoted as heroes and ideals.
We need to grow and wake up.
It may well be better if we all voted for the BNP no joke, because we know for a fact that the conciousness of the avearge Joe increases under than those conditions, while voting for these clowns actually does serious damage. First they will ask for nuff time to do anything and we will of course grant them what they want, only to find out four years from now they have sold us out lock stock and barrell.
Yes we must understand system politics and when we do we will not waste our votes on the enemy in black skin, who without this system cannot continue. Black people show their maturity and sophistication and RUTHLESSNESS AND INTENT when we can look these low life in the face and tell them I will give it to the enemy, as you are an even worse and more insideous enemy. We increase our bargaining power and that is how you use your vote and not hand it over cheaply to an enemy.
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Posted: Thursday June 17th, 2004 00:15 |
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I can appreciate the apathy part.
Personally I dont vote. Though I feel really I should.
Dont get me wrong I think its all rubbish and there isnt anyone representing what I feel is right, thats why I dont bother but....
I feel you should vote, just so you count. Its all rubbish but if every black person votes then suddenly all these parties have to start caring about what you think. They have to start doing things to make you happy, to make you vote for them, on the face of it atleast.
I have to say I dont know what they would do for us, perhaps they would take our vote away once they saw that we actually used it productively, we should push the boundaries and find out.
I have to agree with what Fred said regarding alot of black politicians intentions. They surely dont have their heart in it, though I feel this is somehow true of alot of politicians and parties. I mean do you really think the BNP really have any intention of running this country?
Of ridding it of black people?
Can we truly believe that they are all that stupid?
No.
There are people within that party who will have enough intelligence to know that what they stand for is economically and socially impossible and even if it could happen it would make their existence far worse. They know the value of non-whites within the UK. They understand the economics of an enforced underclass and the benefits it brings them as white people.
Not meaning to get off the topic but my point is the majority of these politicians just AINT IN IT TO WIN IT.
Im still trying to figure out exactly why they are in it, perhaps it is as simple as power/money, I dont know but they sure aint trying to change the world.
As another poster said, I guess the black politicians we see are just that, the black versions of politicians. Is a black devil any better than a white one.
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Posted: Wednesday November 10th, 2004 16:34 |
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This organisation..is it a front for Labour? I guess they get their funding from home office and maybe national lettery but how strong is it? how much influence does it have to black people and voting?
seems Trevor philips is also involved with it and I am always sceptical about his views
does anyone in this village know more about this organisation?
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Posted: Tuesday March 22nd, 2005 16:57 |
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maybe not so whack
Brent South is having an all ehnic minority shortlist after the election
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Posted: Tuesday March 22nd, 2005 17:05 |
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| What difference will the "ethnic" that they select make to the lives of Africans in Brent or anywhere else?
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Posted: Saturday April 9th, 2005 20:01 |
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... while the Blacknet Village ponder that one, here is another example of Operation Black Vote's success (please click here) ...
... your vote is safe with us ...
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Posted: Thursday April 14th, 2005 17:22 |
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... meanwhile, you can visit Operation Black Vote's list of "Black Candidates" for the forthcoming election (please click here). One of those named is "Kim Humphreys" (standing for the Conservative party in Dulwich and West Norwood).
Here is a photograph of "Black Candidate" Mr Humphreys ...
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Posted: Friday April 15th, 2005 11:26 |
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MarcusGarveyLives wrote:
... meanwhile, you can visit Operation Black Vote's list of "Black Candidates" for the forthcoming election (please click here). One of those named is "Kim Humphreys" (standing for the Conservative party in Dulwich and West Norwood).
Here is a photograph of "Black Candidate" Mr Humphreys ...
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You could easily mistake him for 'Wesley Snipes'!!!!!
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Posted: Friday April 15th, 2005 11:34 |
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It just seems to me that everybody and anybody can be 'BLACK' nowadays.
I think we should change the term by, not just using the word 'BLACK' but BLACK AFRICAN/CARIBBEAN, this way we a clear definition of who and whom we are referring to.
But this is just typical, we always get used by other minorities when they want something from us, and again as usual, you have the 'Man-Friday mentality; shoe shuffling sambo dancing; jig-a-boo N****rs' in the likes of Simon Wooley, who claims to be representing 'Black people'.
NEWSFLASH Wooley, our definition of 'BLACK' is different from yours.
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evo0 wrote: MarcusGarveyLives wrote:
... meanwhile, you can visit Operation Black Vote's list of "Black Candidates" for the forthcoming election (please click here). One of those named is "Kim Humphreys" (standing for the Conservative party in Dulwich and West Norwood).
Here is a photograph of "Black Candidate" Mr Humphreys ...
Potential "Black" MP - Operation Black Vote style
You could easily mistake him for 'Wesley Snipes'!!!!!
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Posted: Sunday April 17th, 2005 10:28 |
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| anyone here from Operation Black Vote that can help on this?
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Posted: Thursday April 21st, 2005 12:04 |
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... maybe Operation "Black" Vote have other priorities ...
" ... Our second appointment is with Operation Black Vote, a non-partisan campaign to reduce the "entrenched cynicism about politics within the black community". Its co-ordinator, Simon Woolley, is a handsome, light-skinned black man ('They're often the most extreme,' notes Parker). He tells us that he enjoys good relations with all the political parties, even the Tories ...
... Woolley counters by pointing out that another black radical, Professor Tony Martin, was "disinvited" once the group discovered that he was the author of a book called The Jewish Onslaught.
"That was a tough decision," he says ..."
Source: "It's time to kick some British butt", Sunday Times (South Africa), 7 December 2003
Simon Woolley of The Black Jewish Forum
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Posted: Thursday April 21st, 2005 14:19 |
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Prince Hakeem wrote: evo0 wrote: MarcusGarveyLives wrote:
... meanwhile, you can visit Operation Black Vote's list of "Black Candidates" for the forthcoming election (please click here). One of those named is "Kim Humphreys" (standing for the Conservative party in Dulwich and West Norwood).
Here is a photograph of "Black Candidate" Mr Humphreys ...
Potential "Black" MP - Operation Black Vote style
You could easily mistake him for 'Wesley Snipes'!!!!!
LMAO, theres nothing black about him. he's probably half korean half white, with a name like Kim Humphrey. Why do the use this "Black" non-sense when describing non-whites. I can somewhat understand calling asians black, atleast those in my area, because most are dark skinned southern indians, and sri lankans. but really everyone knows they're not Black. 'Operation Minority Vote' would be a better name, they need to abandon this Black = Black+Asian+Middle Eastern+Chinese non-sense.
http://www.obv.org.uk/elec2005/blackmps.html
Black Memebers of Parliament (<- someone ought to tell them how to spell 'Members'  )
Name
Constituency
Party
Votes
%
Majority
Oona King (Black?)
Bethnal Green &Bow
Labour
19,380
50.5
10,057
Khalid Mahmood (Asian - P*kistani)
Birminham Perry Barr
Labour
17,415
46.5
8753
Marsha Singh (Asian - Indian)
Bradford West
Labour
18,401
48
4,165
Paul Boateng (Black)
Brent South
Labour
20, 984
73
17,380
Piara Khabra (Asian)
Ealing Southall
Labour
22,239
47.5
13,683
Mohamed Sarwar (Asian)
Glasgow Govan
Labour
12,464
49.3
6,400
Parmjit Dhanda (Asian)
Gloucester
Labour
22,067
45.8
3,880
Diane Abbott (Black)
Hackney North Stoke Newington
Labour
18,081
61
13,651
Keith Vaz (Asian)
Leicester
Labour
23,402
57.6
13,422
Dr Ashok Kumar (Asian)
Middlesbrough South &Cleveland East
Labour
24,321
55.3
9,351
Mark Hendrick (Black?)
Preston
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57
12,268
David Lammy (Black?)
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67.5
16,916
7 Are Asian, 5 Are Black i think. Yeah it is OBV, Operation Brown Vote that is. 
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Posted: Thursday April 21st, 2005 16:01 |
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... as I pointed out earlier, maybe Operation "Black" Vote have other priorities ...
" ... Our second appointment is with Operation Black Vote, a non-partisan campaign to reduce the "entrenched cynicism about politics within the black community". Its co-ordinator, Simon Woolley, is a handsome, light-skinned black man ('They're often the most extreme,' notes Parker). He tells us that he enjoys good relations with all the political parties, even the Tories ...
... Woolley counters by pointing out that another black radical, Professor Tony Martin, was "disinvited" once the group discovered that he was the author of a book called The Jewish Onslaught.
"That was a tough decision," he says ..."
Source: "It's time to kick some British butt", Sunday Times (South Africa), 7 December 2003
Simon Woolley of The Black Jewish Forum
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Posted: Thursday April 21st, 2005 17:29 |
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Its co-ordinator, Simon Woolley, is a handsome, light-skinned black man ('They're often the most extreme,' notes Parker).
-- why is this very often the case. that black activists tend to be phenotypically hybridized, that they tend to have mulattoid phenotype? would you say this is because of more caucasoid blacks have had a better deal in the white society, and thus obtained higher education etc. or do you think maybe the more caucasoid blacks have more pride of their race - that is due to the white western endoctrination, it encourages the darkest and most negroid blacks to feel that they are at the absolute bottom rung of society, and to not be as proud of themselves phenotypically, compared to a mulatto, or a south asian (who have their phenotypes portrayed in some degree of a positive light). Also that Afro-Americans are one of the least exogamous out of the blacks in contact with whites (e.g. comparison of America, Canada, Britain), and also are hybridised to a certain degree. Then also the stereotype of a Dark skinned black man with a fair skinned blonde woman. - maybe im reading it too deep, this is afterall just a speculation, and part of my generalised "extremoid-exogamic intermedioid-endogamic" theory. nevertheless i'd like to here what you have to say Mr Garvey. 
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Posted: Thursday April 21st, 2005 18:49 |
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... not all "black activists" ...
Simon Woolley of The Black Jewish Forum
The Man That Operation "Black" Vote Hope You'll Never Find Out About
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Posted: Saturday April 23rd, 2005 14:53 |
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| ... no word from Operation "Black" Vote yet?
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Posted: Saturday April 23rd, 2005 16:57 |
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gotbase you are a very funny man
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Posted: Saturday April 23rd, 2005 17:03 |
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| all politicians are corrupt.Black ones are no different. they are all self serving, careerist, cynical..they are all salesmen and saleswomen, shallow charm, deceptive, rat like interested chiefly in ego and personal enrichment.
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Posted: Monday April 25th, 2005 19:00 |
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"The Labour Party have been in power since 1997, I ask what have they done for ordinary people? After taking us into an illegal and unjustifiable war, billions of pounds have been spent dropping bombs on innocent people in Iraq.
What does social justice and human rights mean to Tony Blair and those that support his every move? Our liberties are being taken away in their so-called fight for democracy. Laws that will affect every British citizen are being introduced - ID Cards, security cameras, armed police, Anti-Social Behaviour Orders. Our children are being criminalised for standing on the streets ....
My brother Christopher Alder, a decorated soldier died in inhumane and degrading circumstances on a custody suite floor while police officers stood around laughing and chatting - all this is recorded on CCTV cameras (please click here).
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Posted: Tuesday April 26th, 2005 10:37 |
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MarcusGarveyLives wrote: ... not all "black activists" ...
Simon Woolley of The Black Jewish Forum
The Man That Operation "Black" Vote Hope You'll Never Find Out About
MGL - Check out this website http://www.blink.org.uk look out for the topic on OBV
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Posted: Tuesday April 26th, 2005 19:04 |
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With all the talk about who we gonna vote for/ from who we wont vote for:
What I cant understand is. We know that these Labour and Conservative's are absolute wankers that they put up for us / they are not for us.
So in all the Black dominated areas in the cities in the UK we cant put up ONE independent bloodcla*t canditate. Not one.
Out of all the black organsiation's nobody can rustle up anybody?
Not that I have any faith in the political process without any economic or cultural strength. You may as well give a soldier a gun with no bullets.
Before anyone speaks to me about Black vote they wanna talk about getting independent candidates to run and canvass Black people.
Anything else is waste of time. We're gazing.
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Posted: Wednesday April 27th, 2005 07:57 |
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 mansamusa wrote: With all the talk about who we gonna vote for/ from who we wont vote for:
What I cant understand is. We know that these Labour and Conservative's are absolute wankers that they put up for us / they are not for us.
So in all the Black dominated areas in the cities in the UK we cant put up ONE independent bloodcla*t canditate. Not one.
Out of all the black organsiation's nobody can rustle up anybody?
Not that I have any faith in the political process without any economic or cultural strength. You may as well give a soldier a gun with no bullets.
Before anyone speaks to me about Black vote they wanna talk about getting independent candidates to run and canvass Black people.
Anything else is waste of time. We're gazing.
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Posted: Wednesday April 27th, 2005 18:03 |
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Why should anyone trust him?
" ... Our second appointment is with Operation Black Vote, a non-partisan campaign to reduce the "entrenched cynicism about politics within the black community". Its co-ordinator, Simon Woolley, is a handsome, light-skinned black man ('They're often the most extreme,' notes Parker). He tells us that he enjoys good relations with all the political parties, even the Tories ...
... Woolley counters by pointing out that another black radical, Professor Tony Martin, was "disinvited" once the group discovered that he was the author of a book called The Jewish Onslaught.
"That was a tough decision," he says ..."
Source: "It's time to kick some British butt", Sunday Times (South Africa), 7 December 2003
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Posted: Thursday April 28th, 2005 18:05 |
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Hello!
This is my first ever post so I am quite excited (I should get out more I know!) but I have come to the conclusion that it is vital to vote.
This UK election has seen the 3 major parties promise great things for the elderly ~ (Pension plans, extra benefits, tax rebates etc) statistics show that out of all the people entitled to vote it is the Elderly that are guarenteed to turn up at the polling booth.
My point is this: if we (Black People) exclude ourselves from the electoral process - (however limiting & frustrating it can be) we are damaging our own cause as Black people!
There is such a large proportion of Black people who do not enter into the political process, ~ as a result 'our priorites' are not met or even considered by the mainstream parties -
Why should they consider them; if they (Political parties) are interested in power & that 'power' can only come about through votes ~ why bother courting the opinion of individuals who don't vote & thus have have absolutely no means of generating power?
If prisoners were given the vote ~ we would see overnight a plan put forward to better the resources and facilities available in Jails up & down the country. If the 5 million homeless people in Britain were given the vote ~ we would see overnight a plan put forward to address the issue of more youth hostels & support networks to aid those currently on the street.
Jail conditions are not a priority for this government neither are the homeless, - students get treated like dirt (student loan system) - but that's ok because most of them don't vote!
Politicians don't listen to us (Black People) because they have very little political insentive to do so.
The system isn't perfect ~ but if were not part it...how can we ever get our needs met?
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Posted: Thursday April 28th, 2005 19:34 |
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If by "mainstream" you mean "white" (then you should say so), then all of them have considered "our needs" and have decided what they have in store for us ... death.
Operation Black Vote should stick to using the money that they have been given by these same parties and use it to continue to campaign against adverts for chocolate and bans on black professors rather than fooling themselves that "black people" will determine the outcome of anything.
Please vote for the one who will kill the most Africans
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Posted: Friday May 6th, 2005 18:49 |
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Their main aim - when they are not banning Garveyite professors from speaking to Africans - was to secure the "black vote" for the Labour Party, and in particular to secure "the Muslim vote".
As you can see, they failed.
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Posted: Friday May 6th, 2005 20:34 |
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... they should have backed the "black" candidate !
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Posted: Sunday May 8th, 2005 15:54 |
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What happened?
Potential "Black" MP - Operation Black Vote style
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