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Posted: Tuesday June 12th, 2007 19:42 |
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 Blair backs new online journalism regulator
By George Jones, Political Editor
Last Updated: 7:34pm BST 12/06/2007
Full text of Blair's speech on politics and mediaMy Telegraph: Blair condemns the mediaYour view: Who has damaged politics more: Tony Blair or the media?
Tony Blair hinted today at new restrictions on internet journalism, saying online news coverage had become "more pernicious and less balanced" than traditional political reporting.
Blair: 'New forms of media can be even more pernicious' In a farewell lecture on public life, he said that much of the British media behaved like a "feral beast, just tearing people and reputations to bits".
But he had particularly harsh words for non-traditional media outlets, particularly the internet. "It used to be thought - and I include myself in this - that help was on the horizon," he said.
"New forms of communication would provide new outlets to by-pass the increasingly shrill tenor of the traditional media. "In fact, the new forms can be even more pernicious, less balanced, more intent on the latest conspiracy theory multiplied by five."
The emergence of internet-based news and 24-hour television news channels meant reports were "driven by impact''. He said that there was a need for the distinction between news and comment to be reasserted.
With newspapers increasingly moving online, he said the regulatory systems for papers and TV needed to be revised. Currently they are monitored by separate watchdogs.
"As the technology blurs the distinction between papers and television, it becomes increasingly irrational to have different systems of accountability based on technology that no longer can be differentiated in the old way," Mr Blair said.
The outgoing Prime Minister said senior figures in public life had now become "totally demoralised" by the completely unbalanced nature of reporting. He conceded that relations had always been fraught, but said the situation now threatened politicians' "capacity to take the right decisions for the country''.
The Prime Minister acknowledged that he had "contributed" to the deteriorating situation with the media by "spinning" too much in the early days of New Labour.
''We paid inordinate attention in the early days of New Labour to courting, assuaging, and persuading the media,'' Mr Blair said in a speech to Reuters.
''In our own defence, after 18 years of opposition and the, at times, ferocious hostility of parts of the media, it was hard to see any alternative.
''But such an attitude ran the risk of fuelling the trends in communications that I am about to question.''
While insisting that he was not complaining about the coverage he gets as Premier, Mr Blair claimed there was less balance in journalism now than 10 years ago.
Mr Blair insisted that there was still a genuine desire for impartial news coverage among the public.
"At present, we are all being dragged down by the way media and public life interact,'' Mr Blair said. "I do believe this relationship between public life and media is now damaged in a manner that requires repair. "The damage saps the country's confidence and self-belief; it undermines its assessment of itself, its institutions; and above all, it reduces our capacity to take the right decisions, in the right spirit for our future.''
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Posted: Tuesday June 12th, 2007 20:39 |
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Hmm what does he mean by this: "In fact, the new forms can be even more pernicious, less balanced, more intent on the latest conspiracy theory multiplied by five."
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Posted: Tuesday June 12th, 2007 20:58 |
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Merovingian Dynasty wrote: Hmm what does he mean by this: "In fact, the new forms can be even more pernicious, less balanced, more intent on the latest conspiracy theory multiplied by five."
A good question..personally I think he has a bare faced cheek to even suggest this, never mind argue against online journalism...
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Posted: Tuesday June 12th, 2007 21:12 |
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LOL
so what if I own a site that's hosted in Korea? They gonna block you guys from seeing my site?
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Posted: Tuesday June 12th, 2007 22:15 |
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Kunjufu wrote:
Merovingian Dynasty wrote: Hmm what does he mean by this: "In fact, the new forms can be even more pernicious, less balanced, more intent on the latest conspiracy theory multiplied by five."
A good question..personally I think he has a bare faced cheek to even suggest this, never mind argue against online journalism...
LOL!!!
They finally thought up something against Toyin (albeit veiled)
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Posted: Wednesday June 13th, 2007 06:42 |
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What "online journalism" takes place on the Blacknet website?
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Posted: Wednesday June 13th, 2007 06:47 |
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MarcusGarveyLives wrote: What "online journalism" takes place on the Blacknet website?
http://www.blacknet.co.uk/
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Posted: Thursday June 14th, 2007 09:50 |
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.........just before the start of the iraq invasion, the "bloggersphere" roundly condemed the ahem "plans" for invasion, and they were right, often asking more questions than the offically sanctioned members of the opposition government....curtailing freedom of exppresion,( and lets face it thats what this is) is the thin edge of the wedge, to a dictatorship...
we are already on the way to 1984 ....
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Posted: Thursday June 14th, 2007 16:48 |
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isnt the paranoia in this thread highlighting the problem being talked about? blairs speech only stated that there is a problem, it didnt hint at any solution or regulation. yes there have been monitring measure introduced on the net in the uk, but you can still prety much order a liver or a dead dog on the net if you know how to go about it..that will also be delivered by royal mail..lol.
conspiracy websites have used this speech to draw comparisons to china, and have headlines such as "blair declares war on our freedoms" "blair to introduce chinese style net monitoring" etc... this is the problem being talked about by blair.. where conspiracies and so called 'experts' or whistelblowers who are just seeking to fulfill their own fantasies of having a few fans write rubbish and un confirmed stories about govt and people, mixing half truths with absolute lies whipping up some sort of frenzy.
i dont think they should be controlled, but i think its right that they are pointed out as a problem, bcos they are. some people have become so apathetic about everything the govt does based on their absolute belief in all the stuff churned out on these websites. they used to be sad single men in their 40s but are now taking on new 'soilders' daily. these people make up the govt to be some massive organisation that doesnt feature human beings..but aliens.
alternative news is good if it can be trusted.
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Posted: Thursday June 14th, 2007 16:56 |
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MWTM: sorry but maybe you didn't read or hear the full text of his rant, but he did more that suggestion a problem, he suggested that action was required at website's...
Personally given the track record of this Goverment, it is fair to sugest that legislation can and will follow his rant on Websites not following the goverment line...
I also don't think its a stretch to think that he will target website beyond that of the 'Independant' newspaper and target those whom he feels are 'devisive'..
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Posted: Friday June 15th, 2007 00:32 |
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http://www.blackchat.co.uk/theblackforum/forum32/29083.html
It is all about interpretation isn't it?
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Posted: Friday June 15th, 2007 07:53 |
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There will be no impact on Blacknet - no 'journalism' takes place on Blacknet. In fact the government require the continuation of the website to spread urban myths, trivia, misinformation and general confusion in the African community.
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Posted: Friday June 15th, 2007 08:09 |
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MarcusGarveyLives wrote: There will be no impact on Blacknet - no 'journalism' takes place on Blacknet. In fact the government require the continuation of the website to spread urban myths, trivia, misinformation and general confusion in the African community.
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Posted: Friday June 15th, 2007 21:15 |
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Stick up; MGL, lets be clear he has never been a fan of BNV...and to be honest that is ok because that's he's view and he is entitled to .......The problem i have with people like MGL, is that their default position is appears to be that everyone needs to be brow beaten 24/7 with the same message week in week out..year in year out..
People like him appear to think that Africans/Black people are incaperble of holding onto more than one thought, more than one concept at any one time.. and obviously no one else is able to extrapulate fact from fiction...except people like him who appear to have this skill whilst us poor plebs do not....my view is simple i disagree totally with that default position aways have always will do..
My view is that Black people are an intelligent race, just because they do not do the things i would like or want does not make them less black or less intelligent.....I suggest Black people are perfectly caperble of forming their own opinions and making clear choices,for themselves about what is in their BEST interest.... and if that choice is not one that coincide with agebda of MGL...well BNV is NOT to blame!!! Fortunately people have what is called FREE WILL, this is what we supposedly struggled for since the beginning of slavery or am i wrong....?
I have total respect (whether we agree or not) with anyone who struggles with the Moderation team as many have done over the years, ...most if not all of what BNV has been about is because of the contributors that we've had over the last 10 years... No one has ever said that BNV is perfect or that it is not without its contradictions..i think we have been up front and honest about these consistently...
So I really have no time or energy for people whose only motivation appears to be to continually tear down the work of others, on the pretence of having some kind of higher moral authority on Africaness.
As i keep saying everyone has FREE will no one is compelled to be here, nothing about this forum can be construed as BRAINWASHING... And lets be clear this is certainly NOT the only BLACK forum,there are far worse and far better forums out there and people THANK GOD people have a real choice of where to go if they dislike BNV.. and i have said consistently that people should execise that choice freely
Finally if people seriously feels there is a gap for a different type of forum that meets their particular agenda or needs, then they should have the courage of their convictions and put their money where their mouth is and prove their point that way..
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Posted: Sunday June 17th, 2007 14:55 |
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Kunjufu wrote: Blair backs new online journalism regulator
By George Jones, Political Editor
Last Updated: 7:34pm BST 12/06/2007
Full text of Blair's speech on politics and media
My Telegraph: Blair condemns the media
Your view: Who has damaged politics more: Tony Blair or the media?
Tony Blair hinted today at new restrictions on internet journalism, saying online news coverage had become "more pernicious and less balanced" than traditional political reporting.
Blair: 'New forms of media can be even more pernicious' In a farewell lecture on public life, he said that much of the British media behaved like a "feral beast, just tearing people and reputations to bits".
But he had particularly harsh words for non-traditional media outlets, particularly the internet. "It used to be thought - and I include myself in this - that help was on the horizon," he said.
"New forms of communication would provide new outlets to by-pass the increasingly shrill tenor of the traditional media. "In fact, the new forms can be even more pernicious, less balanced, more intent on the latest conspiracy theory multiplied by five."
The emergence of internet-based news and 24-hour television news channels meant reports were "driven by impact''. He said that there was a need for the distinction between news and comment to be reasserted.
With newspapers increasingly moving online, he said the regulatory systems for papers and TV needed to be revised. Currently they are monitored by separate watchdogs.
"As the technology blurs the distinction between papers and television, it becomes increasingly irrational to have different systems of accountability based on technology that no longer can be differentiated in the old way," Mr Blair said.
The outgoing Prime Minister said senior figures in public life had now become "totally demoralised" by the completely unbalanced nature of reporting. He conceded that relations had always been fraught, but said the situation now threatened politicians' "capacity to take the right decisions for the country''.
The Prime Minister acknowledged that he had "contributed" to the deteriorating situation with the media by "spinning" too much in the early days of New Labour.
''We paid inordinate attention in the early days of New Labour to courting, assuaging, and persuading the media,'' Mr Blair said in a speech to Reuters.
''In our own defence, after 18 years of opposition and the, at times, ferocious hostility of parts of the media, it was hard to see any alternative.
''But such an attitude ran the risk of fuelling the trends in communications that I am about to question.''
While insisting that he was not complaining about the coverage he gets as Premier, Mr Blair claimed there was less balance in journalism now than 10 years ago.
Mr Blair insisted that there was still a genuine desire for impartial news coverage among the public.
"At present, we are all being dragged down by the way media and public life interact,'' Mr Blair said. "I do believe this relationship between public life and media is now damaged in a manner that requires repair. "The damage saps the country's confidence and self-belief; it undermines its assessment of itself, its institutions; and above all, it reduces our capacity to take the right decisions, in the right spirit for our future.''
If they do that the foundations will be set for Civil War sometime in the future.
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