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Posted: Thursday May 10th, 2007 17:48 |
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man i'm not feeling this current coverage of this missing white kid in Portugal. even the Portuguese are saying they are devoting to much resources in finding her. they don't even conduct this kind of manhunt when it comes to thier own citizens, and Portuguese are really pissed off now.
now lets flip the script and say the kid was a black British citizen, would they put the current weight the white kid gets into finding the black kid. i think not and i'm right because at the end of the day black kids get popped while walking down the street...and that's not slang for black eye no more...it means death.
When does one human life become more valuable than 10 or 20 lives? 
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Posted: Thursday May 10th, 2007 18:04 |
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Point.
Kids go missing all the time, see plenty of them up in the Metro. Its all media hype, picking and choosing stories. Ayran girl goes missing alert the public get people caring.
Theres nuff gun crime, shootings and what not in the UK. In the words of a journalist, 'theres so many it would cause a panic if they reported them all'. Theres plenty of stabbings in england/london happens all the time and so on... the media just pick flavors of the month to focus on.
If people want the news its the political, finance and business pages they should read, its the epi center as it were (sp) what happens there sends off ripples in our lives. The rest is mostly trivia.
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Posted: Thursday May 10th, 2007 18:30 |
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.... and not trivia in the sence that I don't care but that crime and so on happens all the time and always will, no point crying over something thats always going to be around if you get me. Its the factors behind it all that needs looking at.
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Posted: Thursday May 10th, 2007 18:36 |
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Took long enough for someone to come out with this
Was expecting it last week
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Posted: Thursday May 10th, 2007 21:19 |
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Try here: http://www.blackchat.co.uk/theblackforum/forum32/28570.html
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Posted: Friday May 11th, 2007 04:56 |
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| Saw this on the news earlier.
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Posted: Friday May 11th, 2007 08:37 |
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White people are worth more than people classified as Black in the system of Institutional Racism which is based on White Supremacist ideology.
Did you know people classified as Black pay more for their insurance?
Think about it.
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Posted: Friday May 11th, 2007 11:19 |
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There are more reasons for why its such a big story than the fact that its a white girl who's gone missing for not even every white girl would generate this much publicity. The reasons why its big are.
1. Its a very young white girl
2. Her parents are middle class doctors (if it was some single parent chav, they wouldn't be getting this much press and sympathy instead you may get one or two stories saying 'bad single parent abandons child to go partying at restaurant' or something and the story would soon done quickly.
3. It happened abroad. Everyone know that the British love to portray foreigners and foreign countries as dangerous. They had a story on the news today that practically made out that Portugal was dangeros for families to visit, even though many children go missing in the Uk all the time. In fact its probably safer to let your kids out to lay on their own in Portugal than the UK. I've been there and saw they're more family orientated.
The combination of the three factors; little white girl, middle class background, scary foreigners have made this story bigger than it normally would be.
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Posted: Friday May 11th, 2007 11:39 |
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Please help me! Mr. Ress I am confused by your statements... I assumed that the topic related to the over-representation featured story in the the media of a missing English girl, Madeleine. So, why the statements about person value or compensation matters?
As I understand it, she belongs to the majority classified as white British or English so to showcase her disappearance is to highlight a story is for identifiable purposes or possibly used to suggest to others how a holiday can turn into an act of tradegy especially for a family when they are not constantly observing their children at all times.
I would only infer the white supermacy cast in view of this family being in another country that is not deemed 'Anglo-ized'. By that, I mean that a white child could be taken without decretion and the country then in turn is shadow with a 'black image' rather than a light purity of innocence. So, its source of informing is to embed fear within parent(s) minds to watch their children constantly whilst on holiday; importantly, to set the motion that a white child existence is a matter of urgency because she sets the foundation in her womb (e.g. preservation creation)and this reinforces your notion of compensation value; and this sir has already been developed by my elder Dr. Francis Cress Welsing (re: psychiatric-research). So, I do not understand why the continuation frame of colouring-coding white vs. black recognition?
I know that bit was off the topic, but as I said before, the majority will forever elevate their place or standing because it is their guarantee right of heir--to associate identity and its placement with identifiable story-telling. I'm sure if we were the majority and heir to the soil, stories would be confounded upon our collective contemplation. What do you think?
Anyways, that's my bit, I do not see it from an one-point stance of context rather as a collective entity to ascribed quality of their own..
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Posted: Friday May 11th, 2007 23:23 |
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ladyz wrote: Please help me! Mr. Ress I am confused by your statements... I assumed that the topic related to the over-representation featured story in the the media of a missing English girl, Madeleine. So, why the statements about person value or compensation matters?
As I understand it, she belongs to the majority classified as white British or English so to showcase her disappearance is to highlight a story is for identifiable purposes or possibly used to suggest to others how a holiday can turn into an act of tradegy especially for a family when they are not constantly observing their children at all times.
I would only infer the white supermacy cast in view of this family being in another country that is not deemed 'Anglo-ized'. By that, I mean that a white child could be taken without decretion and the country then in turn is shadow with a 'black image' rather than a light purity of innocence. So, its source of informing is to embed fear within parent(s) minds to watch their children constantly whilst on holiday; importantly, to set the motion that a white child existence is a matter of urgency because she sets the foundation in her womb (e.g. preservation creation)and this reinforces your notion of compensation value; and this sir has already been developed by my elder Dr. Francis Cress Welsing (re: psychiatric-research). So, I do not understand why the continuation frame of colouring-coding white vs. black recognition?
I know that bit was off the topic, but as I said before, the majority will forever elevate their place or standing because it is their guarantee right of heir--to associate identity and its placement with identifiable story-telling. I'm sure if we were the majority and heir to the soil, stories would be confounded upon our collective contemplation. What do you think?
Anyways, that's my bit, I do not see it from an one-point stance of context rather as a collective entity to ascribed quality of their own..
the third paragraph is abit brainy for me
can you expand it abit plse
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Posted: Saturday May 12th, 2007 11:06 |
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ladyz wrote:
Please help me! Mr. Ress I am confused by your statements... I assumed that the topic related to the over-representation featured story in the the media of a missing English girl, Madeleine. So, why the statements about person value or compensation matters?
Thank you for the query.
"missing English girl" Those words have value. That is why they are used.
Did you know that judgements and decisions are made on the perceived value of individuals?
As I understand it, she belongs to the majority classified as white British or English so to showcase her disappearance is to highlight a story is for identifiable purposes or possibly used to suggest to others how a holiday can turn into an act of tradegy especially for a family when they are not constantly observing their children at all times.
Who gave you that undestanding?
Do you know what Institutional Racism is and how it works?
I would only infer the white supermacy cast in view of this family being in another country that is not deemed 'Anglo-ized'. By that, I mean that a white child could be taken without decretion and the country then in turn is shadow with a 'black image' rather than a light purity of innocence. So, its source of informing is to embed fear within parent(s) minds to watch their children constantly whilst on holiday; importantly, to set the motion that a white child existence is a matter of urgency because she sets the foundation in her womb (e.g. preservation creation)and this reinforces your notion of compensation value; and this sir has already been developed by my elder Dr. Francis Cress Welsing (re: psychiatric-research). So, I do not understand why the continuation frame of colouring-coding white vs. black recognition?
Some good points.
The news and the presentation of the news is decided by White Supremacist Racist Terrorists in positions of power in the news processing organisations.
Therefore everything has to do with the White Supremacist classifications of skin colour, race and nation etc.
I know that bit was off the topic, but as I said before, the majority will forever elevate their place or standing because it is their guarantee right of heir--to associate identity and its placement with identifiable story-telling. I'm sure if we were the majority and heir to the soil, stories would be confounded upon our collective contemplation. What do you think?
Anyways, that's my bit, I do not see it from an one-point stance of context rather as a collective entity to ascribed quality of their own..
The environment we live in is constructed on White Supremacist ideology.
White Supremacist ideology is built of Deception, Threat of violence and Violence.
There is no comparison to their way of thinking among non-white people.
By the way Franci Cress Wessling is Neely Fuller Jr watered down considerably.
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Posted: Saturday May 12th, 2007 11:40 |
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.....does any one Remember when I certain police chief said that he found it strange to devote so much media time to those two white kids who died in soham….
a news paper editor said Exactly the same thing BABYGIRL 144 said , white, and middleclass…we live in a whites on top country
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Posted: Saturday May 12th, 2007 17:03 |
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£2.5 Million Reward!
The currency is printed and the value regulated by White Supremacist Racist Terrorist activity.
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Posted: Saturday May 12th, 2007 17:33 |
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mmmmm
I read the paper how the mother was blaming the police for blunders..
one that stuck out in my mind..
was the blunder of only having 150 officers (not sure of exact figure) on the search...
.. she is suggesting there should be more
mmmm...
personally i think she is at fault.. how can you leave your young children... under 10 yrs old unattended.... and talk aboutyou could see the window from your restaraunt...
and then when ish happens everyone should drop what they are doing....
if they put 10 officers on the search ... you should still be grateful...
.. dont get me wrong i feel for the ..young one... and the family...
but dont be all demanding...
especially when the whole situation is to a great degree due to your negligence..
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Posted: Monday May 14th, 2007 01:12 |
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no one is to blame. its not unusual for a parent to leave a child in bed with her siblings also at home. they were supposed to be in a safe envt afterall.
the media has turned it into a soap now though. wtf is david beckham making a statement for? did i miss something? he lives in spain.. the girl was taken in portugal?
this is why people get so desentized.
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Posted: Monday May 14th, 2007 09:56 |
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mirror man -
if that happened here in the US, the parents would probably already be charged with something....(and I have to think what that may be - maybe child endangerment/child neglect). But it is against the law to leave a child under the age of 12years alone or unattended.
I dont even know how the parents could both have had such bad judgement - and they are doctors....
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Posted: Monday May 14th, 2007 11:37 |
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Greetings on this wet English day, to answer your question Milesdavis,
I apologise about the third para. What I was suggesting about *white Supermacy label* relates to historic attitudes involving the white female. So, by this the para. only inferred that this notion of casting race along with a type of validation image is merely depicted for purposing and defining WHO is the regarded as an exceptional BEING when clustering others races within a White dominate Society.
Therefore there is no surprising element about the coverage of a young white female child featured in the media sector because SHE is the life-line for the WHITE RACE thereby is considered VALUABLE.
White females = producing children
White females + paired with white men = producing more white babies
White females' production system = genetic survival of retaining white existence
In her womb, life can be created and this enables the maintenance for her race. And I'm sure Mr. Davis you already knew that... not much different from other women, other than her view of existence, so the state of alert is connected to the family.
As for Mr Ress' responses,
Question 1: "Did you know that judgements and decisions are made on the perceived value of individuals?"
Yes, I already knew that... nothing new... Perception is an illusionary based of ideas that are supplanted or defined by its Maker.
As I understand it, this concept about judgements are produced by image-making. It has been used since donkey years to reflect an attitudinal response of a group or an individual whilst framing a belief to maintain its sphere to render influence.
Judgement = illusionary frame of thoughts
Judgement flows for purposing natural reason to shape others' perception.
Judgement = purposing reason to flow throughout time
I understand your views however, I disagree with you on this point.
Response 1: "There is no comparison to their way of thinking among non-white people."
As I already stated, for non-white people that exist in countries that are deemed white, the idea of comparison in regards to perpetuating 'who is deemed more valuable' lies with White collective conscious of being and since the soil (land) is their legitimate place of habitation, then stories will forever maintain for them and not represented for those who are not bounded to the land or retain the position of the authority because it is after all, England is their country.
So, for me, the issue does not substain on black vs. white difference but operates by regulation to involve others that are defined as 'white beings' to monitor, retain their position in their country and function to uphold their numbers reinforcing the ideal of:
White females + White males = produces more white babies
More white babies = maintain the population in a country that is deemed WHITE
For me, this notion of desiring an even balance will never hold up simply because 'others' have no inheritance of the soil as well as reduced numbers, and so, the balance functions to appeal to the majority at all costs even at the expense of the minority.
As for your idea of there being 'no comparison to their way of thinking', I beg a differ.
This comes from my dealings with different races as the white race. I see it two ways: One is that Africans are scattered throughout the west and coexist 'in the wilderness' whilst being reared in lands that are not their own there maintains no collective insightful about our position of being (no matter how many generations my family or others have existed there).
So the issue of comparion is formed first by adaptation; then develops from inter-relationships which leads to 'mental processing of ideas' or responses, this in turn functions by 'behaviour outputs' that does not flow solemnly by a collective measure of identifiable attributes rather an array of input/output based on experiences; reflecting a standardised or deviance view (in mind).
So the comparison in 'thought' is measured by inclusion matter where individual adaptation to whites by way of losing one's sense of self (re: history) and the emulation of survival has occurred.
Primary 1:
Schooling = reinforces in mind the hierarchy of the majority throughout early years, middle school, and senior school creating for some minorities a comparison type of regulation which has been conditioned to perpetuate 'thoughts'. So, to suggest that there is no comparison is like casting whites in general with a defective label of being without regard of the minority efforts', and for me this idea is not accurate; within the minority communities, there are collaborators who have ADOPTED this ideal of positioning reinforces their place of being:
White dominance + collective conditioning enmasses = minority affected
Minority affected + relationships with whites = collaborators
Collaborators = maintained position of authority ...WHITE DOMINATION RENDERS
Well that's my two pence, I must depart for now will try to return later.
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Posted: Monday May 14th, 2007 17:37 |
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I was in my office today at lunchtime and this discussion came up. (Every person in the office is white and on average 45)
I was telling them the theory that maybe the parents could have something to do with it.
They were shocked looked at me as if I had just said aliens had invaded Lewisham.
Oh no they said they made a mistake i mean how many of us have done things as parents to put our children in danger. I was like Im not a parent but i know u dont leave 3 babies alone whilst you go feed your belly, they all looked at me like I had said the worst thing in the world.
One woman said " I have done the same thing although my kids were 3 and 6. I left them sleeping whilst we went for dinner down the road.Id rather them be in bed then have some stranger lookin after them"
I looked at her like wtf are these people crazy!!
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Vixxen1985 wrote: I was in my office today at lunchtime and this discussion came up. (Every person in the office is white and on average 45)
I was telling them the theory that maybe the parents could have something to do with it.
They were shocked looked at me as if I had just said aliens had invaded Lewisham.
Oh no they said they made a mistake i mean how many of us have done things as parents to put our children in danger. I was like Im not a parent but i know u dont leave 3 babies alone whilst you go feed your belly, they all looked at me like I had said the worst thing in the world.
One woman said " I have done the same thing although my kids were 3 and 6. I left them sleeping whilst we went for dinner down the road.Id rather them be in bed then have some stranger lookin after them"
I looked at her like wtf are these people crazy!!
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Mmmm wsup vixen.. there is no reasoning with people like that...it is no ones fault except the parents.... i bet they wished they hadnt left those children in the room alone...
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Posted: Monday May 14th, 2007 23:29 |
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| Does it matter that the child it white. If that child is dead in a ditch somewhere, does it still even matter the colour of her skin. There are countless white kids that go missing just has much has black that don't get even in the slightest news coverage. A child is a child...
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Posted: Tuesday May 15th, 2007 10:51 |
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Children are percious gifts and as lilsoul stated when it comes down to it, no child should suffer as a result of milder negligence of the parents.
My husband and I was talking about this case last night. I hope that all children WILL recieve the same level of coverage and interest regardless of colour, however, I know that will never be.
Interesting thing... I wonder if the Mother is suffering worst as a result of her 'choice'. I reckon now that the parents see that 'being out of sight, doesn't mean 'out of mind'... if you follow me.
And, I did not like the way the BBC forecast a "light image" of the parents, and then some journalist chick went on to provide a detail description of a possible suspect without having the full details; talk about tainting folks...
I'm done... after seeing that, I lost all concern for the parents due to the way the BBC handle the situation. But then again, I shouldn't even be surprised, after all, they have already identified a man which may lead the public to perhaps think that he had something to do with it, without the least bit of concern of: 'innocent until proven otherwise'. I sense the bend motion at work; painting the parents as if no fault should fall upon their shoulders reinforcing a typical unbalance view.
I understand that the media desire to assist, but after I and my hubby saw the constant featuring of the story on the BBC and then turn to ITV last night, it still remains consistent. I rather not even bother watching it anymore: In God's hands is where it belongs.
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