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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 15:35 |
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YOUNGSTER'S BLACK-POWER POEM RILES SCHOOL
A 7-year-old prodigy unleashed a firestorm when she recited a poem she wrote comparing Christopher Columbus and Charles Darwin to "pirates" and "vampires" who robbed blacks of their identities and human rights.
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Hundreds of parents of Peekskill middle- and high-school students received a recorded phone message last week apologizing for little Autum Ashante's poem, titled "White Nationalism Put U in Bondage."
"Black lands taken from your hands, by vampires with no remorse," the aspiring actress and poet wrote. "They took the gold, the wisdom and all the storytellers. They took the black women, with the black man weak. Made to watch as they changed the paradigm of our village.
"Yeah white nationalism is what put you in bondage. Pirates and vampires like Columbus, Morgan and Darwin."
Autum was invited to speak at the Westchester schools on Feb. 28 by Melvin Bolden, a music teacher at the middle school who advises the high school's Black Culture Club and is a member of the Peekskill City Council.
Autum, whose résumé includes several television appearances and performances at the Apollo Theater and the African Burial Ground in Manhattan, told The Post that her poem was meant to instill pride in black students and to encourage them to steer clear of violence.
"I don't think there's anything wrong with my poem. I was trying to tell them the straight-up truth," Autum said. "I'm trying to tell them not to fight because they're killing the brothers and sisters."
Autum, who is home-schooled in Mount Vernon and speaks several languages, prefaced her performance at the high school with a Black Panthers' pledge asking black youngsters to not harm one another.
It did not sit well with parents.
In a telephone interview with The Post, Bolden said Autum has been "unofficially" banned  from performing in a district school again and that school officials would review transcripts of future speakers.
"It's unfortunate, because some teachers said they wanted this little girl to explain the things she said to their students, but some parents don't want her on school grounds," Bolden said.
"[The poem] might have been a little too aggressive for what the middle-school kids are ready to handle," Bolden added.
Kimberly Greene, a mother of children in the high school and middle school, said she was shocked when she got the recorded phone message.
"If there are people who are upset about what she said, the schools should have talked about and analyzed it rather than send a message to everyone saying this little girl was offensive," Greene said.
Autum's father, Batin Ashante, said he can't believe the fuss over his daughter's poem.
"She's a little girl who does poetry about real things. She doesn't do poetry about cotton candy," Ashante said. "She's a serious little person."
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 16:13 |
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bless her
shame on the school district
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 16:20 |
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Big up to this little African princess!!!
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 16:23 |
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LOL
Big up!! brapp brapp brapppppp
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 16:32 |
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Great kid.
If she ever needs to flee the country
I am adopting her.
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 16:39 |
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What?? She gets punished for telling nothing but the truth
I admire her wisdom at such a young age
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 16:42 |
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Africa unit wrote: Great kid.
If she ever needs to flee the country
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Nope, sorry. She will be my second daughter if she has to flee the states!
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 16:59 |
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Simple truth, power to the Sister and her people
Should we be encouraging more of our youth to express their reality like this?
When Africans speak the truth they're regularly hounded, falsely imprisoned, made examples or killed.
When our adults are not speaking out like this en mass, for those same reasons, should we be encouraging our youth to do something, that scares to death out of so many of our big arse grown people?
Thoughts.................
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 17:16 |
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Breadfruit wrote: Simple truth, power to the Sister and her people
Should we be encouraging more of our youth to express their reality like this?
When Africans speak the truth they're regularly hounded, falsely imprisoned, made examples or killed.
When our adults are not speaking out like this en mass, for those same reasons, should we be encouraging our youth to do something, that scares to death out of so many of our big arse grown people?
Thoughts.................
Yes, because we can't afford to cower in fear forever. A story like this is inspirational to African people worldwide. Unfortunately, few people have the balls to tell the truth and even when they do, it's all sugar coated so as not to cause too much consternation.
This young sista (and her parents of course) have done us all proud and we need to have more and more of these experiences so that powers that be have no choice but to acknowledge we are force to be reckoned with.
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 17:39 |
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Prince Hakeem wrote: Yes, because we can't afford to cower in fear forever. A story like this is inspirational to African people worldwide. Unfortunately, few people have the balls to tell the truth and even when they do, it's all sugar coated so as not to cause too much consternation.
This young sista (and her parents of course) have done us all proud and we need to have more and more of these experiences so that powers that be have no choice but to acknowledge we are force to be reckoned with.
I hear that African
But surely brother, telling the truth and hearing the truth is nothing new to us?
We could reel off a long list of Africans who have been doing this. And so many of our people still behave as if they're deaf and dumb.
What can we say then, have been the lessons we have learnt, from so many of our great people who have spoken the truth; who's legacies remain masses of our people, loving oppression and hating freedom?
Most of our leaders had families and lives other than the struggle. Was it correct for them to have used their tremendous intellectual gifts and make such enormous sacrifices, they didn't have to take, for a people, who would probably forget their names a generation later?
There was a poster here recently, apparently defending the Island of Jamaica. When prompted, she later declared she did not know who Marcus Garvey was.
Now thats deep!
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 17:44 |
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brilliant girl - very inspirational & an excellent example that we as parents/future parents can equip our children with such insight & wisdom regarding our 'dilemma' at such a young age.
Autum!!!!!!
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 17:51 |
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I don't think there's anything wrong with my poem. I was trying to tell them the straight-up truth," Autum said. "I'm trying to tell them not to fight because they're killing the brothers and sisters."
Autum, who is home-schooled in Mount Vernon and speaks several languages, prefaced her performance at the high school with a Black Panthers' pledge asking black youngsters to not harm one another.
Damn right! About time someone told as it is.
Is it conceivable that a girl like her could exist in the UK? Not in a million years.
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 19:19 |
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| ^^^Bro, I do voluntary work with African children on occasions. I can assure you young girls and boys like her exist.
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 19:20 |
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huzzah1 wrote: I don't think there's anything wrong with my poem. I was trying to tell them the straight-up truth," Autum said. "I'm trying to tell them not to fight because they're killing the brothers and sisters."
Autum, who is home-schooled in Mount Vernon and speaks several languages, prefaced her performance at the high school with a Black Panthers' pledge asking black youngsters to not harm one another.
Damn right! About time someone told as it is.
Is it conceivable that a girl like her could exist in the UK? Not in a million years.
Of course....my future daughter will be just as smart... So stop being so negative
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I hear that African
But surely brother, telling the truth and hearing the truth is nothing new to us?
We could reel off a long list of Africans who have been doing this. And so many of our people still behave as if they're deaf and dumb.
What can we say then, have been the lessons we have learnt, from so many of our great people who have spoken the truth; who's legacies remain masses of our people, loving oppression and hating freedom?
Most of our leaders had families and lives other than the struggle. Was it correct for them to have used their tremendous intellectual gifts and make such enormous sacrifices, they didn't have to take, for a people, who would probably forget their names a generation later?
There was a poster here recently, apparently defending the Island of Jamaica. When prompted, she later declared she did not know who Marcus Garvey was.
Now thats deep!
Breadfruit, every generation has the right(and the responsibility) to do their own work for our collective progression. Just because some previous generations have been too deaf to hear the truth, that should not stop her generation to express themselves or speak the truth in their own unique ways. She did her generation of little ones proud.... She should put those thoughts in childrens' books...i will personally sale it door to door for free.
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 19:30 |
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Damn right! About time someone told as it is.
Is it conceivable that a girl like her could exist in the UK? Not in a million years.
@huzzah1
Don't be too sure, have you been into some schools here and dealt with black children?.... Do you think that the reason they play up and fight against the system is because they're thick???? No siree..these kids are very aware, their bad rep comes from their unwillingness to conform to this European style of education that they will not relate too. If you speak to them on a one to one as a fellow black person you will hear them echo the same sentiment as Ashante.
Could it be that her generation is the one that takes over from where people like Martin Luther King, Malcolm X ended???? Fingers crossed.... or is she one of a kind Maya Angelou in the making....
You go lil sis.....
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 19:45 |
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Thank goodness for small soldiers.
As for the recorded msgs to parents how dare they!
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 19:47 |
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Breadfruit wrote: should we be encouraging our youth to do something, that scares to death out of so many of our big arse grown people?
Thoughts.................
Absolutely. We have far more to lose if we don't.
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 19:54 |
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Mezmerized wrote:Breadfruit, every generation has the right(and the responsibility) to do their own work for our collective progression. Just because some previous generations have been too deaf to hear the truth, that should not stop her generation to express themselves or speak the truth in their own unique ways. She did her generation of little ones proud.... She should put those thoughts in childrens' books...i will personally sale it door to door for free.
@Mez
But we're not talking about teenagers or adults here, are we - this is a young girl.
What have we learnt, from all of those generations that have expressed themselves like the little sister above? We know the violent and de-humanizing nature of those who wish for truth to be unheard.
Surely we owe it to our youth to guide and direct them, to the best of our abilities, based upon our history?
Speaking the truth, as I have already said, does not seem to have moved our people profoundly. But doing so, brings state attention to our most brave and intelligent.
Should our children be led, until their maturity, to repeat the actions of men and women, who's works could have been greater, if they possibly didn't expose themselves so overtly?
Is the way of our great orators, speakers, poets, the way we should be encouraging young children, who knowledge of reality and struggle is in the main, the gift of their guardians?
How many of our people would allow their children to expose the corrupt, unjust, violent nature of our oppression in such a way?
Would those parents be wrong to do so, when so few, both adult and child, ride by their sides; especially when our oppression seems to be getting worse?
Are we using our history wisely?
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 20:17 |
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@Mez
But we're not talking about teenagers or adults here, are we - this is a young girl.
What have we learnt, from all of those generations that have expressed themselves like the little sister above? We know the violent and de-humanizing nature of those who wish for truth to be unheard.
Surely we owe it to our youth to guide and direct them, to the best of our abilities, based upon our history?
Speaking the truth, as I have already said, does not seem to have moved our people profoundly. But doing so, brings state attention to our most brave and intelligent.
Should our children be led, until their maturity, to repeat the actions of men and women, who's works could have been greater, if they possibly didn't expose themselves so overtly?
Is the way of our great orators, speakers, poets, the way we should be encouraging young children, who knowledge of reality and struggle is in the main, the gift of their guardians?
How many of our people would allow their children to expose the corrupt, unjust, violent nature of our oppression in such a way?
Would those parents be wrong to do so, when so few, both adult and child, ride by their sides; especially when our oppression seems to be getting worse?
Are we using our history wisely?
Good question. Do we have to be more cute in the future in the way we express the truth / as history shows us that it opens the way out to asassination/ if not ruin by other means.
Should we wait until we have built our defences strong enough to be able to ward off the inevitable attack.
Is it recklessness to allow our children to publiclly express such thoughts/ (especially to whites) without the neccessary economic and political muscle to be able to protect her. How safe is she in the event that white America/CIA etc marks her for future ruin/ seeing as the little soldier has hit the ground running.
I think it is reckless. Unless she has a network that is not stated above/ that can fend off the inevitable. I personally think that putting this young girl thoughts to white audiances is unneccasarily putting her in the line of fire. Let her speak/ but let her speak to her own/ where the feelings can be reciprocated. A 7 year old should not have that responsibilty.
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 20:23 |
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I think it is reckless. Unless she has a network that is not stated above/ that can fend off the inevitable. I personally think that putting this young girl thoughts to white audiances is unneccasarily putting her in the line of fire. Let her speak/ but let her speak to her own/ where the feelings can be reciprocated. A 7 year old should not have that responsibilty.
Thinking about it like this I do see your point and I do agree. I guess it goes back to the old saying 'time and place for everything'.
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BlackBeauty wrote: mansamusa wrote:
Thinking about it like this I do see your point and I do agree. I guess it goes back to the old saying 'time and place for everything'.
For real. Thats exactly what Im saying BB.
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For real. Thats exactly what Im saying BB.
Ok, so how do you curb your childs passion to want to educate and/or express herself to the masses? When on the one hand you are telling her this is the truth and it needs to be told. I know I said 'time and place for everything' but I would like to know how you would get this across to a child, without them getting the wrong end of the stick i.e be afraid of white ppl.
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 21:02 |
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I hear that African
But surely brother, telling the truth and hearing the truth is nothing new to us?
We could reel off a long list of Africans who have been doing this. And so many of our people still behave as if they're deaf and dumb.
What can we say then, have been the lessons we have learnt, from so many of our great people who have spoken the truth; who's legacies remain masses of our people, loving oppression and hating freedom?
Most of our leaders had families and lives other than the struggle. Was it correct for them to have used their tremendous intellectual gifts and make such enormous sacrifices, they didn't have to take, for a people, who would probably forget their names a generation later?
There was a poster here recently, apparently defending the Island of Jamaica. When prompted, she later declared she did not know who Marcus Garvey was.
Now thats deep!
I agree with what you are saying here Breadfruit, but I think it is important for people to realise that not everyone has parents who teach them about Africa/Africans and some may not have had the opportunity to learn about our great African leaders...... therefore rather than chastise people who ask questions (or make declarations) like that highlighted above, you should provide them with the information without judging them.
My 2 cents......
I think the fact that Autum was home schooled helped coz many schools are full of wierdos constantly indoctrinating our children, that's probably one of the reasons why I have not heard of any children in the UK as aware as Autum is. On the otherhand, maybe the UK 'culture' makes it harder for anyone to do anything that is considered 'politically incorrect'?
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 21:30 |
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Mezmerized wrote: huzzah1 wrote: I don't think there's anything wrong with my poem. I was trying to tell them the straight-up truth," Autum said. "I'm trying to tell them not to fight because they're killing the brothers and sisters."
Autum, who is home-schooled in Mount Vernon and speaks several languages, prefaced her performance at the high school with a Black Panthers' pledge asking black youngsters to not harm one another.
Damn right! About time someone told as it is.
Is it conceivable that a girl like her could exist in the UK? Not in a million years.
Of course....my future daughter will be just as smart... So stop being so negative
@Mez & Miss Nellia
Ok, I took kick up the backside like a man.
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 22:10 |
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| Hope she really is a "serious little person." and not an African American version of those odious, nausiating beauty contest, isn't she clever and sweet American little girls ( along the lines of Raven Symone, Drew Barrymore, Dakota Fanning, Rudy from the Cosby show et el). As she's also an "actress"
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 22:11 |
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Breadfruit...i hear yaa and now i see what you mean...
 Huzzah, you is a man?
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Posted: Monday March 13th, 2006 22:28 |
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I hope she stays this astute, she needs some strong and good hands to steer such a mind! I am excited at the prospect of her blooming with time and experience, however, Breadfruit speaks wisely (as usual) of caution.
I hope the ancestors walk with her through this life.
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| She's a brilliant little girl.
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Posted: Tuesday March 14th, 2006 01:37 |
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| Hmmm, I'm not surprised at all by the reactions this amazing girl received. These people are the most hypocritical beings on the face of the earth. Freedom of speech my black ass. What pisses me of the most is that most of these European intellectuals that we are all supposed to be in awed and inspired by, were some of the most ignorant, racist pigs on the face of the earth. Yet if anyone stands up and exposes them for what they really were, white people get all up in arms and start talking about how offended they are.
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Posted: Tuesday March 14th, 2006 06:32 |
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Mezmerized wrote: Breadfruit...i hear yaa and now i see what you mean...
Huzzah, you is a man?
Yes I am. I'm worried because you're the second person that's asked that question.
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Posted: Tuesday March 14th, 2006 07:41 |
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Tate1 wrote: Breadfruit wrote:
I hear that African
But surely brother, telling the truth and hearing the truth is nothing new to us?
We could reel off a long list of Africans who have been doing this. And so many of our people still behave as if they're deaf and dumb.
What can we say then, have been the lessons we have learnt, from so many of our great people who have spoken the truth; who's legacies remain masses of our people, loving oppression and hating freedom?
Most of our leaders had families and lives other than the struggle. Was it correct for them to have used their tremendous intellectual gifts and make such enormous sacrifices, they didn't have to take, for a people, who would probably forget their names a generation later?
There was a poster here recently, apparently defending the Island of Jamaica. When prompted, she later declared she did not know who Marcus Garvey was.
Now thats deep!
I agree with what you are saying here Breadfruit, but I think it is important for people to realise that not everyone has parents who teach them about Africa/Africans and some may not have had the opportunity to learn about our great African leaders...... therefore rather than chastise people who ask questions (or make declarations) like that highlighted above, you should provide them with the information without judging them.
@Tate
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I wasn't trying to highlight the poster, in an overtly negatively way - I apologise if it came over that way. The poster was indeed, pointed to info on the life of that great man, in the thread concerned.
The point I was trying to make was bigger than that posters personal ignorance; for someone to come on these boards and choose to defend a nation such as Jamaica, and not know who Marcus Garvey is, represents the contradiction I highlighted in this Thread.
Its not as if Garvey is not one of the Jamaicans official national heros, nevermind his prolific historic contributions to our struggle.
Which prompted me to question, should we be highlighting our warriors at such a young age, in this war?
Young people, with fantastic intellects and love for their people, during the 70's and eighties, were unjustly incarcerated and many still linger in those prisons while masses of our people don't even know the name of a man who had Africans organised, by their millions, in the Caribbean, North America and the Continent!
These are observations we should take notice of I think and address.
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Posted: Tuesday March 14th, 2006 09:17 |
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Big up the girl. She sounds like Huey of The Boondocks.
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Posted: Tuesday March 14th, 2006 10:14 |
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I'm very proud, and no doubt her parents are proud....it just shows that with the right teachings ( AT HOME) our young ones CAN and WILL grow up overstanding and respecting SELF.....
BRAVO....
P.S and she's a gorgeous little angel too....
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Posted: Tuesday March 14th, 2006 11:23 |
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This is no ordinary young girl. 7 years old? Man this one has a special spirit and I believe she has a very important mission in life. She must be harnessed and protected from those who would seek to thwart her mission.......big up her parents for having the right consciousnes to handle such a young spirit.
It never ceases to amaze me that white people can wheel out 'pundit' after 'pundit' to speak of 'the white man's burden' and the ravages of 'black crime' 'immigration' (and a host of other evils layed at the door of African people) visited upon their land. They applaud these people for 'speaking the truth'. But let one of us (even a 7 year old girl) speak of 'black man's burden', and it's a different story.
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Posted: Tuesday March 14th, 2006 13:44 |
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| CIA probably got a file on her already by know! Last edited on Tuesday March 14th, 2006 13:45 by East_African
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Posted: Tuesday March 14th, 2006 15:28 |
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huzzah1 wrote: I don't think there's anything wrong with my poem. I was trying to tell them the straight-up truth," Autum said. "I'm trying to tell them not to fight because they're killing the brothers and sisters."
Autum, who is home-schooled in Mount Vernon and speaks several languages, prefaced her performance at the high school with a Black Panthers' pledge asking black youngsters to not harm one another.
Damn right! About time someone told as it is.
Is it conceivable that a girl like her could exist in the UK? Not in a million years.
I saw part of her performance on the news last night, and that child is exceptionally brilliant and powerful. She's being raised by her father and he seems like a very nice guy as well. Any young person with that kind of consciousness strikes fear in their hearts. I hope they don't try and wrangle her from her dad. Kudos to her!!!
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Posted: Tuesday March 14th, 2006 15:37 |
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Backatya wrote: This is no ordinary young girl. 7 years old? Man this one has a special spirit and I believe she has a very important mission in life. She must be harnessed and protected from those who would seek to thwart her mission.......big up her parents for having the right consciousnes to handle such a young spirit.
It never ceases to amaze me that white people can wheel out 'pundit' after 'pundit' to speak of 'the white man's burden' and the ravages of 'black crime' 'immigration' (and a host of other evils layed at the door of African people) visited upon their land. They applaud these people for 'speaking the truth'. But let one of us (even a 7 year old girl) speak of 'black man's burden', and it's a different story.
Respect
This concerns me too. After seeing her yesterday, I'm quite sure she's galvanized a whole lotta folks.
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Posted: Tuesday March 14th, 2006 19:13 |
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Breadfruit wrote:
@Tate
Greetings
I wasn't trying to highlight the poster, in an overtly negatively way - I apologise if it came over that way. The poster was indeed, pointed to info on the life of that great man, in the thread concerned.
The point I was trying to make was bigger than that posters personal ignorance; for someone to come on these boards and choose to defend a nation such as Jamaica, and not know who Marcus Garvey is, represents the contradiction I highlighted in this Thread.
Its not as if Garvey is not one of the Jamaicans official national heros, nevermind his prolific historic contributions to our struggle.
Which prompted me to question, should we be highlighting our warriors at such a young age, in this war?
Young people, with fantastic intellects and love for their people, during the 70's and eighties, were unjustly incarcerated and many still linger in those prisons while masses of our people don't even know the name of a man who had Africans organised, by their millions, in the Caribbean, North America and the Continent!
These are observations we should take notice of I think and address.
Thanks for the clarification, Breadfruit.
I think it is a good idea to highlight our insightful young warriors as this may help to give all Africans the courage to speak out. However, I'm not sure about the best way to teach our children and ensure their safety as well.
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Posted: Tuesday March 14th, 2006 20:23 |
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I read about this and this young girl is a very brilliant and smart person. She's gonna go far in life if she keeps this up. She's got more sense than older adults because I know many older black adults who don't have enough guts to say half of what she said, but she said it in confidence and she seems like she's unapologetic for what she said and I'm proud of her for that. Whites just don't want to hear the truth and the truth hurts.
RIGHT ON LIL'SIS! 
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