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Posted: Thursday September 1st, 2005 22:15

Hi Kunjufu. Long time. - How are you?

- The problem: I can't post a message as a member. Here's what happens:

1)I put my name and password into the login page and click the button,

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2)I select a thread where I want to write something, so I click on "Reply" or "Quote" as the case may be,

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3) The page saying "Sorry, you don't have permission to post messages in this forum", or words to that effect appears. - So I can't post anything.

(BTW, my name does not appear on the list of members and guests currently online after trying to login. I am, however, included in the searchable list of members' names).

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Posted: Saturday September 3rd, 2005 06:53

As a Zimbabwean myself its hard to believe that so many people have faith in Mugabe and the whole "teaching th ewhiteman a lesson" theme. Listen Mugabe may have been a "revolutionary" in the past (even that is open to debate considering how many of his fellow revolutionaries have died suspisiously along the way) he most certainly is not one now. The main problem with this man is that he and his political party ZANU PF have never made the mental transition from political party to government responsible for the well being of the country.

Time and time again the selfishness of Mugabe and his cronies has been exposed. Everyone here knows of his current love affair with Chine but don't forget his past is littered with abandoned lovers. First China during the War then North Korea when he needed to "teach the Ndebele a lesson" then he tried the whole capitalism thing then he moved his attentions to Libya then Iran and now China. The man is a whore and he is selling our country piecemeal to whoever is wiling to back him. Its got nothiing to do with black rights. This thing with China is nothing new at all back in the 90s when he neede money to pay off the war vets he tried to sell the Hwange Powerstation to the Malaysians.

Even as we speak they are blowings their own horn about paying the IMF US$120 Million to avoid being kicked out. If they can find that much money why can't they find money to replace the homes they demolished so cruelly? Why can't they provide transportation for the food aid rotting at the BeitBridge Border crossing right now? If they can find US$200 Million to by fighter jets from China how come people are still dieng of hunger and suffering needlessly because they cannot get ARVs??? To all of the people who want to fall in line with Mugabe about the white people being racist etc i am sure there are plenty of situations where that is the case (New Orleans springs to mind) but this is not one of those. This is all about a bunch of selfish wankers(excuse the french!!) who are bringing an entire nation to its knees./ end of rant

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Posted: Saturday September 3rd, 2005 15:00

Temporary Username ('til I think one up wrote:
Hi Kunjufu. Long time. - How are you?

- The problem: I can't post a message as a member. Here's what happens:

1)I put my name and password into the login page and click the button,

then,

2)I select a thread where I want to write something, so I click on "Reply" or "Quote" as the case may be,

and,

3) The page saying "Sorry, you don't have permission to post messages in this forum", or words to that effect appears. - So I can't post anything.

(BTW, my name does not appear on the list of members and guests currently online after trying to login. I am, however, included in the searchable list of members' names).

Thanks.

@ MODS - Does anyone have any advice on how to solve the login problem described above please?

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Posted: Saturday September 3rd, 2005 15:10

Hey temp - hope you're back to stay now

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Posted: Saturday September 3rd, 2005 17:00

athaba wrote:
Hey temp - hope you're back to stay now

Hello athaba. Thanks. Yes, I would stay, but for some reason I can't login as a member despite having signed up.

Do you have any idea what might be going wrong?

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Posted: Saturday September 3rd, 2005 17:28

Temp..sorry I should have said I've taken your issues to admin ok..

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Posted: Saturday September 3rd, 2005 17:49

No problem. - Thanks Kunjufu.

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Posted: Saturday September 3rd, 2005 18:43

Hi Temp

You have been MISSED around here your timing is spot on blk2hug

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Posted: Sunday September 4th, 2005 09:25

Mafdet wrote:
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You have been MISSED around here your timing is spot on blk2hug

- Thanks Mafdet. It's good to be back.

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Posted: Sunday September 4th, 2005 19:02

I have been thinking that Mugabe was trying to prove that a Black leader could be dumber than George Dubya Bush.

I just watched a NOW program on PBS that was taped THREE YEARS ago talking about what a level 5 hurricane would do to New Orleans and how the Bush administration was cutting funds to fight terrorism.

How many Americans has Bush saved from terrorism and how many has he killed with incompetence?

Mugabe looses, Bush wins with New Orleans.

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Posted: Thursday September 29th, 2005 19:15

Just a few things I noticed while back in Zimbabwe.

I loved and enjoyed my time there but noted that I did so because I am a tourist and was spending forex (foriegn currency). When I arrived I got $40,000 to £1 officially and $80,000 on the black market. When I left I was getting $100,000 to £1. I had to quickly get good at maths because the highest denomination note is 20,000 and things cost millions. So you are walking road with big wads of money on you fatting up your pockets. You feel vunerable when taking these bigs wads out to pay, the novelty of being a millionaire fades fast lol. The money is also confusing because what cost so much in one shop is wildly different in the next. And what cost one price this week is now a new higher price next week.   The gov is hungry for forex like mad... Everywhere I went I had to pay in £s because I couldn't produce a Zimbabwe ID card.   The prices were not that bad anyway and worked out in my favour but I couldn't imagine living there with prices like that.

Some of the issues touched on and raised in this thread...

Drought
3 years or more now and BAD. Not too much in the central and east regions (though it's still relatively dry) but the south and especially the north is extremly arid. On my way on the falls road from Bulawayo to Vic falls Every one of the more than 20 rivers we saw on a 460 km drive was bone dry. A bed of rocks. The land around us was sand. In the dry season normally you get the short brown grass or patches of vegetation at least, but here was just dry red dust. And tree stumps, the people sell firewood by the roadside (there is nothing else to sell). The cows and donkeys looked ridicolously skinny and the people were hungry. When I stopped to buy some artifacts on the road one of the young boys asked me for food for his carvings before even mentioning money.

Petrol/Diesel
This is the BIG BIG problem in Zimbabwe at the moment. The country has no forex to buy fuel legally. The fuel that comes in is brought in by private investors on the black market. They charge sky high ridicolous prices and demand to be payed in forex. The queues for petrol go around the block, the forex queues used to be illegal but the gov gave up now because things can't move without it.
This affects the country in massive ways.    For one, I have cousins who can only go to school on certain days because the buses can't run all the time.
I have one uncle who runs a haulege company. He had at one stage many trucks and loaders and employed many people. He now has just one truck and about 5 staff. All because they don't have the diesel to move the loads people ask for. Also because of the collapse of the economy, the currency fluctuates madly. You can't place an order for goods one week and expect the price to be the same next week. Your employees wages double each month and so on so they have to be layed off. unemployment is massive at the moment.

Nationalisation
Government owns nearly everything. The water the electric the largest bus firm (Zupco) and so on. They place laws and restrictions to make competition very difficult.  For example Zupco has first access to any petrol available and other bus companys can not buy petrol on the black market. This keeps prices HIGH and people have to hitch hike and ask for rides to get anywhere. This was always so in Zim but when you see police and soldiers hitchhiking and begging lifts its very odd. Some level of privatisation is necessary and Zimbabwe seems to be going the complete opposite way.

"Cleanup" operation
Well from a tourist point of view there are hardly any streetkids or robbers and beggars in the city centres, something I remember from back in the day. However it's not all good if you think about it. Where did they go? They are overloading the countryside is where...
The fleamarkets are largely gone. Remember all those arts and crafts you saw in that thread? The people who make that stuff were included in the ones pushed out to the countryside and had homes demolished. The people there were the ones who do things like repairing bicycles (cycling is BIG in Zimbabwe) and who fixed odds and ends, a few mechanics and so on or welders and so on, domestic maids and gardeners, the women who sell fruits to people on buses or boys who sell tomatoes on the roadside etc etc. The site of all the smashed houses was distressing. Harare is as I said, cleaner though if that means anything.

Hospitals
Many people say there are more hospitals but I didn't see them. What I did see was reports in the press that many docs have left the public sector and even the country. But then I suppose that's a problem for all Africa.

Schools
Now this I did see. Many new schools, especially in the rural areas. I even saw some new technical colleges and universitys. A big University is being built outside Hwange. Big plusses I have to praise the Zim gov for. Zimbabwe apparantly has many new graduates in fields like agriculture, animal husbandry and so on. Problem is, these guys are not the ones being granted access to the land. They working in supermarkets or so on. If they do have a farm and make it work then it gets taken from them...

Land redistribution
Most of the people in the rural areas I spoke to were from the major cities, some evictees from the cleanup operation. The massive overloading of the countryside has exacerbated the drought and caused more suffering. Shifting that much of the population outside the cities to get people on the land and working it sounds good in theory but in practice the people are suffering. What was one big farm producing maize or export produce like tobbaco is now tiny patches of little familys scratching away at the land. Why the graduates and experts (which Zimbabwe does have) are not there on the land is beyond me.
The best farms obviously have gone to ministers. Something which I had heard but then saw with my own eyes. I saw one farm that a war vet had taken over and did well with. He was producing food. As soon as a minister saw that farm he took it off the war vet and made it his own personal estate (not a farm). This has happened with many of the resiezed farms. The war vets who took them had them taken away, they were just used. The graduates who could concievably pick Zimbabwe up and organise like blacknet member cdemafa and his Ujamma group are also under pressure.
Land distribution is something I support and endorse wholeheartedly. Im just upset to see the mismanagement and the corruption kicking in. People should be benefitting not suffering. And they would be if left alone.

The China effect
Overrated IMO. Everybody I met was moaning 'too much Chinese' and so on. And yes there are several prominent businesses in the towns owned by Chinese. Many buses running in the cities are Chinese. But it's not THAT much... no more so that here in UK really. There doesn't seem to be any danger of China colonising Zimbabwe LOL thats make believe rubbish

Did anybody sort out TemporaryUserName's problems?

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Posted: Thursday September 29th, 2005 19:35

DM; thanks for the report back..it was brilliant..unfortunately it seems like the LAND retake is a good idea in principle..but with no plan and curruption rife...I can now see why Zimbabwe is in big trouble...sad really sad..

Ps: completely forgot abot Temporary..I'll ring Admin to morrow about this..

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Posted: Thursday September 29th, 2005 19:47

Thanks K

Another thing I thought I should mention. Reports of 'death camps' and 'torture squads' to me seem wildly exaggerated. Exaggerating problems like that does nobody any favours. You could be forgiven for going there and saying "it's not so bad" when it is still bad. The MDC office is right in the centre of town with big fat signs on it. People walk about ok, without being harassed... which is not to say things were not rigged, it's on everyones lips.

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Posted: Tuesday October 11th, 2005 01:13

White commercial farmers ‘invade’ State land

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SEVERAL new farmers resettled on at least four farms in the Chegutu area of Mashonaland West province were last week sent packing when some former white commercial farmers "invaded" their land citing a recent High Court ruling that nullified land offer letters issued by the Government under the land reform programme.

The eviction of the new farmers came amid reports that scores of former white commercial farmers in Mashonaland West have besieged the courts seeking orders to evict newly resettled farmers in the wake of the High Court ruling.

The Government has, however, reiterated that despite the court ruling, all new farmers should stay on their allocated pieces of land pending the issuance of new offer letters.

The High Court last week nullified offer letters issued before the promulgation of the Constitution Amendment (No. 17) Act 2005, creating a new wave of uncertainty among scores of new farmers whose land is being contested.

Justice Bharat Patel ruled that the new farmers’ offer letters were invalid since they were issued before the promulgation of the new law which makes all land acquired under the land reform programme State land.

Justice Patel made the ruling following a case in which a white-owned commercial farming company was contesting the resettlement of three new farmers on Farnley Farm in Chegutu.

A survey by The Sunday Mail in Chegutu revealed that some new farmers were being evicted after former white owners were granted eviction orders by lower courts on the grounds that the offer letters were invalid as ruled by the High Court.

At Ardlui Farm, new farmer Mr Majasi was said to have been evicted by a Messenger of Court with the former owner taking over Mr Majasi’s plot.

"He failed to finish shelling his maize as he was caught unawares. The house he was living in was destroyed and burnt while he quickly moved his property and equipment to a nearby farm,’’ said Mr Majasi’s neighbour, Cde Solomon Chidhakwa.

He said Mr Majasi had since left the area and his whereabouts are not clear.

A drive to the farm revealed that Mr Majasi’s house had been reduced to rubble.

One of the former white owners who was on the farm when this crew visited, Mr Peter Zietsmen, told The Sunday Mail that Mr Majasi had been evicted because his offer letter was invalid.

"The house was actually ours and not Mr Majasi’s. The Messenger of Court mistakenly destroyed it. Majasi was in the wrong place that is why he was evicted,’’ said Mr Zietsmen’s wife refusing to have this crew take pictures at the farm.

"I will break that camera do you hear,’’ threatened Mr Zietsmen.

"Who told you about this incident here. Tell us why you are interested in this case. Do you want to fabricate things or what? It is our right to be here and no one else’s,’’ yelled Mrs Zietsmen.

Refusing to answer more questions, the couple directed this crew to a Mr Lewis who was said to be the director of the company known as Orsham Services.

"Contact Mr Lewis if you want to know more about this farm. He is our director,’’ said Mrs Zietsmen.

Efforts to get hold of Mr Lewis were fruitless.

At Headley farm, the new farmers there said they had been granted stay of execution after the former owner, a Mr J.E. Hornby, was granted eviction order on September 22, 2005.

One of the farmers Mr Isacc Chidhakwa said he was still puzzled as to how the former owner could be granted an order to evict the farmers when the land was now State property.

Mr Chidhakwa said after the acquisition of Headley Farm, Mr Hornby quickly rented out the farm to another white farmer in the area.

Four new farmers were allocated plots at the farm.

"Mr Hornby came to us saying he was failing to get his rentals from his colleague because of our presence on the farm. So he sought our eviction,’’ said Mr Chidhakwa.

He said he was forced to fork out millions of dollars to lawyers for him to be granted stay of execution.

At Hallingbury Farm, the new farmers said the white commercial farmer had returned and was interfering with their operations.

He said 16 farmers were allocated plots on the farm.

One of the farmers Mr Obert Kudyarawanza said the white farmer started tilling land allocated to the new farmers while workers on the farm were allegedly ordered not to work for the new farmers.

"We are in serious trouble here. He says he is seeking eviction orders so that he returns to his farm,’’ he said.

The Minister of Justice, Legal and Parliamentary Affairs Cde Patrick Chinamasa said there was no need for new farmers to panic as the Government would ensure that they remained on the State land.

An analyst Mr Thomas Mapondera said the current events should immediately be stopped before they escalate.

http://www.zimbabwemail.com/index.php?id=12797&pubdate=2005-10-09

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Posted: Thursday October 13th, 2005 10:49

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4337714.stm

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Posted: Tuesday October 18th, 2005 09:41

Now Mugabe sat in power for how long ?

maybe he found Allah or Jesus and now is all rightous

throwing blood sucking whites out is a good idea; but not without a plan-man

reasons fly around as 2 why--opportunity?

but the fact of the matter is this vocal denouncing of bush and blair will inspire Africa into action-- i believe. SA can follow Zims lead.

he is the devil who will lead others to good. An the Europeans are angry, these racist pigs are angry at him---for what?

Is this the world we desire? A world of giants and international terrorists who use now their state muscle in order to intimidate us

Robert Mugabe

or maybe they r angry that they set him up in power to work 4 them and now he is inspiring rebellion.
they care about starving Africans? do u know how many dead and dying Africans there r in other countries in the World that dont make the 8 o clock news? so y focus on Zimbabwe?

speaking truths to lies

Mugabe u got my back, but clean up your act

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Posted: Thursday October 20th, 2005 10:36

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4359856.stm

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Posted: Monday June 18th, 2007 23:31

Hello Mods / Admin,

Some of you will remember me, some of you won't.

I registered on this site about two years ago (first posted here as a guest in 2003), but I have never been able to log in successfully.

This appears to be the only thread in which I can post. -So I would appreciate it if one or more of you could tell me how to solve the longstanding log in problem.

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Posted: Tuesday June 19th, 2007 12:16

Greetings Temp,

Glad to see you back. I notice that you asked for login help, earlier on in this thread.

I'll forward your request for assistance immediately to Admin.

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Posted: Tuesday June 19th, 2007 14:46