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Blackman Gunned Down By Police in Edgeware!
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 Posted: Thursday May 26th, 2005 08:53

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Recently a young Black man by the name of (unarmed) Azel Johnson, 24 was gunned down by police in Edgeware. Since it's happened it's been kept very quiet.

WHY?:X

 

 



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 Posted: Saturday May 28th, 2005 13:24

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Why not ask the Chairman of Operation Trident?




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... while we wait to hear from The Chairman of Operation Trident, Auntie Angie Le Mar with her cutting edge talk show, and the bloodhounds at The Voice and New Nation (Mr Rodney was shot dead on 30 April 2005), perhaps you might all like to read this (please click here) ..






The Chairman of Operation Trident: No Comment







"One less listener? No problem - I got plenty more"







No Voice







Whose Nation







... "news" you can err, use ...




 



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Like i said when i opened up a forums that newspapers are alouf of bullsh*t

thats what has happened thses giverment in england are the terrorists now, when a white man dies its on the news but when an asian, african or arabic person dies by a white man its hardly ever on the news.

its the government the goverment dont want people to know thats the cops are rasict terrorissts. and thats not all

Iraqi soldiers get beaten up abused tortured byt the US AND english soldiers they dont show that on the news.

and if Iraq had no weopens of mas destruction then why dont the US AND UK let the iraqi soldiers free from prison with a £50,000 cash



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I've already turned my back on these people, .......

I don't listen or read what they have to say because it's rubbish.

Anybody emailed new nation, voice etc and asked why? and what was their response....post response on every black forum, no response! post no reponse on every black forum.



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 Posted: Monday May 30th, 2005 23:27

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Apparently when he got shot mmy the police he was meant to have been reachin for a gun n he was a suspected drug dealer but i dont know if he actually did have a gun



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I take media at face value.

How many times have you heard 'he was reaching for a gun'?



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Meet the Deputy Chair of the Metropolitan Police Authority ...




Specialist interest: "gun crime"



Position on the case of Mr Rodney: No comment


 

 



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Jay Jay wrote:

Anybody emailed new nation, voice etc and asked why? and what was their response....post response on every black forum, no response! post no reponse on every black forum.


 

Why would anyone want to read this trite anyway?  I dislike the fact that people consider these papers a voice of the black people in britain.  It can in no way be likened to a broadsheet, it is a cheap tabloid-if you don't take the sun seriously, why anyof these?



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The Chairman of Operation Trident: No Comment



"Never heard about it - too busy doing my nails"



No Voice



Whose Nation?



The Deputy Chair of the Metropolitan Police Authority

Specialist interest: "gun crime" - Position on the case of Mr Rodney: No comment



Chairman of the Commission for Racial Equality: No Comment



Dawn Butler MP: No Comment



Adam Afriyie MP: No Comment



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The very same place I live and I still aint found no information round this shyt. I ask peoples round but the only info I got was one of my boys who described how it happened. He said the police man climbed ontop of the car and shot the brother through the window screen!

If anyone got any contacts that can help or know somn, please reach 020 8265 1731!

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Although the lack of news/information would indicate otherwise, how would you feel if he DID have a gun?

Hypothetically: don't  you think that an element of personal responsibilty exists, meaning that if you walk around the streets of London with a gun, then don't be suprised if you end up being shot by the authorities...

As Eddie Nestor would say: Let's have the conversation....



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LoveDaddy Says: Although the lack of news/information would indicate otherwise, how would you feel if he DID have a gun?

I think you answered your own question LoveDaddy. This is the whole point. There ain't no information so how can anybody make a judgement until the facts are clear.

Right now i feel it is very relevant to ask the question why ain't certain people sayin' S**t... especially people holding the positions as stated by MarcusGarveyLives, most notably...


Lee Jasper (Chairman of Operation Trident)

Cindy Butts (Deputy Chair of the Metropolitan Police Authority)

and our so-called black press..

On a personal note... i don't have any sympathy with anyone walking the streets strapped. If you wanna play gangsta, and end up dead, i ain't crying no tear for yu... SIMPLE TINGS..

but, in this case, that fact is yet to be established and we need issues like this to recieve the proper media coverage and attention (at all times). And we should also demand that individuals and establishments that set themselves up as the voice of the people, should have somethin' to say at these times. 


Look on it this way.. if a POLICEMAN was shot by a brotha, yu know dat is national front page news for the next 6 weeks.

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SO MANY SO-CALLED -- "BLACK LEADERS" ARE SILENT ABOUT THIS.


or is it better if they just HIDE away and collect the pay cheques ... :shock:

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Actually i think that it is SHAME that only the Uhuru Freedom Movement are the only AFRICAN group to openly take an interest in this story who appears to be geniunely interesting in asking questions... where are the other so called BLACK groups pray tell...never mind the Sell out contingent they are behaving exactly as one would expect..where are the so called Superblacks why are they so silent i wonder?



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Weekly African Radio Talk Show Presenter "Auntie" Angie Le Mar and Daily African Talk Show Presenter Eddie Nestor express their concern: No Comment



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well that no big deal, just Black  we have our job no comment!



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"It's Not News For Me"



 



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These House N****rs got one thing in common, they're all bought and paid for.

These are the first sellouts you take out when the Revolution comes. It's a damn shame, Mr.Charlies name is on their check so they can't speak out even if they wanted to.

 



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SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE "WE" STAND ALONE. :(

WE ARE ALL IMPORTANT. FROM THE RICH WHO LAUGH TO THE POOR THAT CRIES. NO ONE SHOULD BE LEFT BEHIND. 



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MarcusGarveyLives wrote:




Weekly African Radio Talk Show Presenter "Auntie" Angie Le Mar and Daily African Talk Show Presenter Eddie Nestor express their concern: No Comment


 


 


I hate to laugh but this pic is funny as heck, the subject mater is not.



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Yeh all these Choice FM sell outs, something is getting organised for them next year, after the snow clears up!



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Anyone who actually wishes to assist the family of the man who was executed should contact:

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I sent an email to the contact no reply! Is that family?? Got any contact other than email?



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This is from this week's Hendon Times:

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Grieving family criticise fatal shooting by police






'So wrong': Susan Alexander (right) and her sister Jennie want the Metropolitan Police to suspend the officer who shot and killed her son, Azelle Rodney, during a police operation in April

By Hugh Christopher


The mother of a 24-year-old man shot dead in a police operation have called for the officer involved to be suspended from duty.

Azelle Rodney was shot at point-blank range in a car outside the Railway Tavern pub, in Hale Lane, on April 12, as police believed he was carrying a gun.

Mother Susan Alexander believes the case bears similarities to that of Jean Charles de Menezes, who was killed by armed police at Stockwell Tube station on July 22 after they suspected him of being a suicide bomber.

"I know Azelle, and I know he was no angel," said Mrs Alexander. "He hung around with some people that perhaps he shouldn't have.

"But I also know that he would never threaten someone with a gun. He would never have a gun in his hand.

"He was two weeks from having a baby. He was looking forward to starting a family."

Police had followed the silver Volkswagen Golf, in which Mr Rodney was a passenger, in a pre-planned operation because the trio inside were suspected of being on their way to commit a crime.

The two others in the car, Wesley Lovell, 26, and Frank Graham, 23, are both due to appear in court in September on charges of being in possession of a firearm.

"I believe he was just a passenger in that car," said Mrs Alexander. "The police should not have the right to do that. It's just so wrong. That's my son's life they took."

Mr Rodney died at the scene, and his daughter was born the day before his funeral. His aunt Jennie Alexander said: "Why couldn't they just arrest him? I don't think they can warrant what they did. Now there is a daughter with no father to look after her."

Susan Alexander has written to the Metropolitan Police asking that the officer who shot her son be suspended from duty.

But the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) investigation into Mr Rodney's death is unlikely to be resolved until charges against Lovell and Graham have been heard.

"I can't allow myself to grieve, I haven't had time to grieve," said Susan."If I stop for a second I will break down or crumble."

An IPCC spokesperson said a thorough investigation was ongoing and would be resolved in due course.



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Whilst I sometimes feel sorry for the families when some of these things occur, you do have to say that if you ramp with people carrying guns as friends, don't be suprised if you get 'accidently' mixed up with the results... 

In terms of similarities with Charles de Menenzes, I disagree, as that poor man had nothing to do with badness, carried no arms or associated with criminals.

This man in Edgware differs in that he associated with bad people who had firearms, and does not himself have an unblemished record; not that this excuses an execution by the authorities, but it diminishes the amount of sympathy I have for this case...

 



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i've held back long enough from responding to this... i believe, i am sure i can make a positive identification, i saw these young men, including the man who got murdered, just a day before the tragedy. i even briefly interacted with one of the men who came up to me and "exchanged a few words".

i was standing outside Selfridges, off edgeware road (Oxford street), when blacks in a rangerover  SUV, a little golf (fits descripotion of victims's car by colour), and a bentley, parked by. i noticed that, like me, they were being observed, monitored.

they left shortly after, but not before i noticed they were well loaded (funds), i mean not driving around with expensive cars but no money in their pockets.

the shooting gave me the impression it was power play. the police and media were intent on showing who was boss, irrespective of what was happening in the election campaign, irrespoective of whether the boy had a gun on him or posed a danger to the public. they took the guy out for that reason, but then i think there was another reason much closer to what we are used to as blacks.

sad that we live in such a mileau. but then this possibility is always present if you know we live in the belly of the beast, right in the midst of where the worst of human ugliness is both so visible and hidden.

no need looking to the present group (idiots) of black leaders to request info or retribution/justice. the Man has been so busy making sure no real African leader comes up he has succeeded in placing the most foolish of our people in leading positions. if you do not belive me then just ask yourself why our representation in politics or the media is limited to females and male gays. why is the man afraid of conscious African males? he does not have what it takes.

condolences and thought go out to the family of the victim... i believe the death of the brother was not in vain.



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