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 Posted: Thursday February 22nd, 2007 20:49

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am thinking of getting this mp3 player since, after 4 and a half years of loyal and active service, my CD player just died (RIP).  Anyway i have been eyeing up this model for a while, but it seems alot to shell out considering i have never had an MP3 and don't know whats good.  But have heard many good things about creative.

Anyone have this model or similar?  what are your thoughts.  Reviews look good so far...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000FS9R0Q/026-9696985-8982807?v=glance&n=560798



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just seen it cheaper here but not sure about reliability of this site

http://www.purelygadgets.co.uk/prodinfo.php?prodid=3308&gclid=CMTTspv9wooCFSLiEAod_23Ifg



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MB....I had this model..and i must say to me it was the BOMB...however i think there is design fault...mine packed up after just 6 months..the harddrive went...couldn't restore it...took it back to Comet..who then told me they stopped making the damned thing so I was FORCED to get an Apple..which i HATE...its so impracticle...My advice research it a bit more ok..



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I went on ebay and bought one from Tokyo and hey it's been 2 months, my money gone, yet no mp3 - I was really pissed off I should've steered clear from ebay - but I have bought so many beautiful bargains from there before; but word of advise buy one from somewhere you can have contact with customer services if you aren't happy with it. In the meantime I am using one I got from HMV, which is pretty basic needs charging an awful lot and I had to replace their ear phones cause they ones that came with it were useless, so in all avoid buying cheap.

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I was determined to get anything BUT an ipod because everybody told me that they weren't the best and so on.  So I tried a few different models and they all had problems.  Either with synching properly or crashing or dry batterys.

Since I relented and got the ipod I've had exactly NO problems and the damn thing is a joy. I've even gotten to prefer itunes to wmp.  I'm a heavy user with a large overwieldly library and lots of bouncing outdoors useage and I've had this toy a while now.

I don't know about this specific model MB, it wasn't one of those I tried but those are my thoughts anyway.



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 Posted: Friday February 23rd, 2007 03:17

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Kunjufu wrote: MB....I had this model..and i must say to me it was the BOMB...however i think there is design fault...mine packed up after just 6 months..the harddrive went...couldn't restore it...took it back to Comet..who then told me they stopped making the damned thing so I was FORCED to get an Apple..which i HATE...its so impracticle...My advice research it a bit more ok..

see, that is exactly my worry with any brand of mp3.  while researching on amazon (which i have been doing for well over a year!) peoples main complaint with ANY make or model is the fact that it packs up, breaks down, loses songs, or just plain doesn't work quite arbitarily.

I kept hearing that creative were better than apple and that apple weren't even the first to come out with mp3's, they just popularized it.

But so far i have read no complaints about this particular model.  But i guess if its relativly new, faults won;t have had time to show themselves. 

I worry that i'll get it now then in about 3 months i will start reading revies about how bad it is lol

Point is, it's a hell of alot of money to pay for something that only seems to have a shelf life of a few months (although in looking around £161 is cheap for 30 gig considering some 4gig cost nearly that!!)



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 Posted: Friday February 23rd, 2007 03:24

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Footprints wrote: I went on ebay and bought one from Tokyo and hey it's been 2 months, my money gone, yet no mp3 - I was really pissed off I should've steered clear from ebay - but I have bought so many beautiful bargains from there before; but word of advise buy one from somewhere you can have contact with customer services if you aren't happy with it. In the meantime I am using one I got from HMV, which is pretty basic needs charging an awful lot and I had to replace their ear phones cause they ones that came with it were useless, so in all avoid buying cheap.

i hve actually seen the model i want from an ebay power seller http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-CREATIVE-ZEN-VISION-M-30GB-MP3-VIDEO-PLAYER-PINK_W0QQitemZ290084673285QQihZ019QQcategoryZ73839QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item2  and they have 99.3% positive feedback on well over 40,000 sales.

But i understand what you are saying about buying from ebay (even though i too have got lots of great stuff from there), which is why i was trying to steer clear of them.  But i would save nearly £20 on the amazon price (which i thought was cheap anyway!)

But as this person is a power seller with an "ebay shop" i was thinking maybe it would be ok.

For something like this, and that amount of cash, i would never go to an "ordinary" ebay seller.  They themselves could just be trying to get rid of a defective product (assuming you receive the order in the first place!).

I wouldn;t be bidding on the item in the normal way, because it would be from the persons online shop.  Plus it would be shipping from within the UK.

I should probably take my own advice.  I am always saying "anything good ain;t cheap and anything cheap ain;t good" and "buy cheap, buy twice" but i am REALLY tempted to get this from ebay, despite dire warnings!!!  Plus the ebay seller has more info about it than amazon.



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The Watcher wrote: I was determined to get anything BUT an ipod because everybody told me that they weren't the best and so on.  So I tried a few different models and they all had problems.  Either with synching properly or crashing or dry batterys.

Since I relented and got the ipod I've had exactly NO problems and the damn thing is a joy. I've even gotten to prefer itunes to wmp.  I'm a heavy user with a large overwieldly library and lots of bouncing outdoors useage and I've had this toy a while now.

I don't know about this specific model MB, it wasn't one of those I tried but those are my thoughts anyway.


see, now i am also trying to steer away from ipods just as you were lol  again, heard they weren;t the best and that creative were better quality with more features etc.

Also, i think a comparible model with an ipod costs in excess of £200 for similar features and gig.  Plus it seems to have more negative feedback than the creative.

However you say you have had no problems with it, despite vigorous use (and i need to know it can withstand vigorous use and bouncing around!)

Now i am totally confused!!  after a long time of shopping around, i thought i had found my model (original one i wanted at 20 gig is no longer available).

I was going to get an mp3 from long time, but other financial comittmants came up and my CD player was still alive (RIP) so wasn;t a necessity.

Now am more confused than ever!!

But if nothing else i will defo be doing some more shopping around before parting with cash.

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ok, have just found an ipod that has similar-ish features for same-ish price.  But this quote from one reviewer put me off

The main disadvantage of the iPod over the iriver is the fact you have to use iTunes, don't get me wrong, it's a good programme, but the iriver is so much more flexible as it is treated just like a hard drive so you can just drag and drop music, photos, videos and they will play on the device. With iPod you have to first move stuff to iTunes and then sync.

plus the ipod doesn;t have the 8 level eq of the creative and the same reviewer says iRiver has a better sound quality.

This is the model:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Apple-iPod-Video-Generation/dp/B000HZBQ42/sr=8-1/qid=1172205038/ref=sr_1_1/202-1592701-5034231?ie=UTF8&s=electronics

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next stop, iRiver lol though i think i have looked at those before.  failing that, i may have to be getting the creative from ebay (sorry Footprints!)



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Here's the one that we bought our teenager.  So far there haven't been any problems.  It is very easy to sync music to.  We use Windows Media Mgr. a simple drag and drop.  These units also come in a variety of memory sizes.  I added a link so you can read some of the customer reviews:

SanDisk Sansa e250 2GB Digital MP3 Player (SDMX4-2048-A70)


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PLEEEEEEEASE don't buy an iriver!  It has so many glitches and mess ups it's untrue.  That was the worst make of MP3 i had no lie.  Crashed all the time, synched tunes out of order and not in right playlists or ten times in same playlist... it was just crap!



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Madam Butterfly wrote: . With iPod you have to first move stuff to iTunes and then sync.

I never understood this, my stuff just automatically played through I tunes when I installed the software confused3


Anyway, despite numerous warnings, I'm sticking with iPod for now. Theyre easy to use and the best looking mp3 player out there. Never had any problems with them at all.



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ac9311 wrote: Here's the one that we bought our teenager.  So far there haven't been any problems.  It is very easy to sync music to.  We use Windows Media Mgr. a simple drag and drop.  These units also come in a variety of memory sizes.  I added a link so you can read some of the customer reviews:

SanDisk Sansa e250 2GB Digital MP3 Player (SDMX4-2048-A70)


http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/SanDisk-Sansa-e250-2GB-Digital-MP3-Player-SDMX4-2048-A70/sem/rpsm/oid/147847/catOid/-12952/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
 

thanks for that.  do you know roughly how many songs 2gb would be?  how about 4gb?  I got alot of music to rip to a player and i don;t want to have to keep deleting stuff when i get new albums.



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PLEEEEEEEASE don't buy an iriver!  It has so many glitches and mess ups it's untrue.  That was the worst make of MP3 i had no lie.  Crashed all the time, synched tunes out of order and not in right playlists or ten times in same playlist... it was just crap!

now you mention it DM i think i DID see alot of negative reviews for it when i was looking last year.  I think that was when i turned to creative.  So i can defo cross off iRiver!!



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Soulstarr wrote: Madam Butterfly wrote: . With iPod you have to first move stuff to iTunes and then sync.

I never understood this, my stuff just automatically played through I tunes when I installed the software confused3


Anyway, despite numerous warnings, I'm sticking with iPod for now. Theyre easy to use and the best looking mp3 player out there. Never had any problems with them at all.


i think it may depend on what model of ipod you have.  But i have tried to download iTunes on my PC on two occasions with no luck, plus they only take credit cards and all i have is a debit card, so i guess that strikes iPod off my list by default.

I have to say, so far i am still leaning towards the creative vision m!!



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itunes comes with the ipod silly!

And you only need to pay for tunes if you're downloading them FROM itunes online shop.  Your own music or stuff you download from somewhere else (p2p) is yours.



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Madame, I had the smaller version.  The Creative Zen is awesome.  But you must install the software, I think it is called Creative Jukebox.  But it is an excellent mp3 player.  Sound quality is good and you will never use up 30GB of space. 



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now i am torn between the creative and the ipod!  it may have to be a case of "Ip, dip sky blue, who's it not you..."!!


EDIT:  whoa that picture of the creative came out big!!  maybe it is a subliminal message from the cosmos as to which on i should get!!

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Wait a minute now.  Do you want an mp3 player or a video/mp3 player. 

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at first i just wanted an mp3 player.  but i figured it was better to get a "do-it-all" model to save me having to upgrade later on.  Plus i have seen a creative 8gb for about £130 and ths cost just £30 more for an extra 26gb.  So i just think this particular model provides value for money for all the features it has.

Even though i may start out just using it for music, its nice to know it has the capabilities if i want it.



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Madam Butterfly wrote: at first i just wanted an mp3 player.  but i figured it was better to get a "do-it-all" model to save me having to upgrade later on.  Plus i have seen a creative 8gb for about £130 and ths cost just £30 more for an extra 26gb.  So i just think this particular model provides value for money for all the features it has.

Even though i may start out just using it for music, its nice to know it has the capabilities if i want it.

Watchu waitin for MB? Take the plunge - treat ya self, you sound like you will pass it on to your grankid even; I am sure you have gathered enuff info, you wont be singing R.I.P in while with all dem fancy features at your finger tips!!!!!

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I have an Archos because I wanted to watch movies

I also have a multimedia player  a good investment it was too.niceone.gif



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ZACK wrote: Thedogon wrote:

I have an Archos because I wanted to watch movies

I also have a multimedia player  a good investment it was too.niceone.gif


Yeah, it's great for me because I take the train to and from work.  I never got the chance to see "Snakes on a Plane" and I finished it up in a day and a half.  Glad I didn't see it at the movies, because it sucked.

 

 






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